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Could we please see more of the Lady Inquisitor?


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I'm fairly certain you just pick which you want. But I could be wrong.

 

That's what we heard, yes. There are two female voices, one British (played by AWR) and one American which we haven't heard yet.

 

That was the understanding I got from the previous media, but I don't know for certain :)

 

Yeah...you can pick your voice independent of race.

Thanks folks. I just wanted to be sure.



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But it also kind of makes the Inquisition website even more upsetting.  They've actually updated it with one video but not the other?  Why aren't they at least revising the wording to make sure the female option is mentioned?

 

Just an fyi - they actually did another update to the site last night, and both videos are now up.  http://www.dragonage.com/#!/en_US/home


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Just an fyi - they actually did another update to the site last night, and both videos are now up.  http://www.dragonage.com/#!/en_US/home

 

Nice, I was just coming here to post that. I'd tweeted David Hulegaard asking if the FemQuisitor video would go on the site... and it seems they beat me to the punch!



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You guys are so sweet. <3 This is why I hang around this thread.  Talking to so many well-spoken folks about a topic that is dear to me has been a blast.

 

back to lady inquisitor things: how long do we think we haveta wait till we see the character creator? Or the keep? :blink: I need** them. Because I am an awful and impatient fan. :unsure:

 

You know, since the CC is likely made up of the final bells and whistles of the game, it probably makes sense that they haven't shown it yet.  People have already been complaining that the faces and hair don't look as good as they hoped, so imagine the outcry if they showed an incomplete CC.  I'm itching to see it too, but it might be in their best interests not to show it unless it's completely ready.

 

There was a mention of sending cupcakes or cookies or such. How many are working in production of DA:I? I would be inclined to order some from near your companies location to send out. Yep, one cookie will do it? :P

 

I wonder if Allan's allowed to officially say anything about the receiving of cupcakes.  It might be seen as a breach of professionalism.  We may have to just make an educated guess.  Is it the Edmonton Bioware team that works on DAI?

 

It wasn't aimed specifically at you, but the sexist stereotype that you used to "refute" the post that I listed in my last reply. Sadly, in another thread, pointing out that a position came across as shallow and asking if people that preferred one of the characters listed meant they had bad taste brought me a board warning and the deletion of the post, even though there are far more "vitriolic" posts still in it. As to why; it's plainly laid out in the post that was edited. I am 100% down with arguing for inclusion, I'd like to see more of the female inquisitor too, including other races, and I believe I pointed out somewhere that doing so for the first time with the Qunari was a masterstroke. However, I don't see the need to throw out sexist stereotypes as a "rebuttal" to a post I don't agree with.

 

Okay, I guess my confusion about your lashing out stems from not being certain what, exactly, you found sexist.  You mentioned that you have facial hair, so I suppose you're bothered that we've been joking a lot about them all being white guys with stubble?  

 

I'm going to post that AC:U banner again for reference:

Spoiler

 

Here we have four men, of approximately the same age, all white, with brown facial hair. They are so similar that in the smaller version of the banner, I thought they were all the same person.  Meanwhile, many, many other video game protagonists also share these exact features: white, male, 30-something, brown hair, bit of stubble.  AC does one thing I've noticed less often with other male game protags: their protagonists are usually of a lighter build, which goes along with being about stealth more than direct combat.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with people who share any, or all, of these features.  For one thing, it would be silly to hate someone for the features they were born with.  There is something wrong with the gaming industry being so limited in their character designs that a significant portion of their protagonists fit this exact description.  It shows a reluctance to deviate from what is thought to be a tried-and-true formula.  It shows a level of creative laziness.  

 

I want to see more diverse male characters.  I want to see more men of color.  I want to see more men with different body types.  I want to see male teens who are awkwardly scrawny and greying men who are passing their prime.  I want to see men with blond or--holy crap, are there any male redheads in games?  That's not a joke, I really want to know.  Just like I want to see more diverse female characters.  When I complain that women in games are all thin, I'm not knocking thin women.  I am thin myself, but that doesn't mean I think every woman in media should be too. 

 

So I am sorry if our ranting about white stubbled men came off as bashing real life white stubbled men.  That was never the intent.  It's about what characters game companies are choosing to create and present as the face of their games.  It's about overall trends of fictional characters.  Not about putting down the real people who happen to have some things in common with those trends.  

 

The funny thing is that Sailor Moon has ALWAYS been for girls, it's a Mahou Shoujo/Magical Girl series. It was created by a woman as well. Not that boys can't enjoy it as well of course but it's demographic is Shoujo, literally "young girl".

 

The anime in question is called Free! Iwatobi Swim Club. It's a harmless little romp about a men's swim team. There are plenty of anime geared towards women, the main reason these men got mad was because the studio making it was KyoAni, Kyoto Animation, which is by all means a triple A studio.

 

You'd be amazed how many guys I've run across in the past few weeks who tried to argue that men are Sailor Moon's primary audience, and women won't support it nearly enough for it to make money.  Right, so that's why the $1000 Princess Serenity-inspired couture dress they just made in Japan sold out in preorder.  :P

 

Oh!  Yes, I remember the Free! freakout.  It's like what, you mean you're uncomfortable with a show that sexualizes you in a way that appeals only to the opposite gender?  Weird!

 

Just an fyi - they actually did another update to the site last night, and both videos are now up.  http://www.dragonage.com/#!/en_US/home

 

Oh yay!  Thanks for the update!


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I wonder if Allan's allowed to officially say anything about the receiving of cupcakes.  It might be seen as a breach of professionalism.  We may have to just make an educated guess.  Is it the Edmonton Bioware team that works on DAI?

 

 

You'd be amazed how many guys I've run across in the past few weeks who tried to argue that men are Sailor Moon's primary audience, and women won't support it nearly enough for it to make money.  Right, so that's why the $1000 Princess Serenity-inspired couture dress they just made in Japan sold out in preorder.  :P

 

Oh!  Yes, I remember the Free! freakout.  It's like what, you mean you're uncomfortable with a show that sexualizes you in a way that appeals only to the opposite gender?  Weird!

 

 

Oh yay!  Thanks for the update!

Lets just say 100, it might be lot less but then it could be lot more too. I know the credits from Dragon Age games are pretty long. I don't really ever read much credits except a handful. If there is a story playing I watch the story, if it was a comedy movie, sometimes those credits get comical.  :)  At least I think that would be a fair number, and yeah the professionalism probably dictates he cant say about it.

 

The reason I stopped playing several games is cause they tend to have the same appearance of males which got old to me. Slight changes here and there but not really enough to warrant a difference. At least Master Chief is unknown male. :)  He could be an Irish man with red wild hair under that mask. Which honestly I would love more if that is true instead of being another one of the other types that's too common. Friends agree too, they are tired of Batman cause its basically the same game over and over, along with Assassin's Creed. At least Unity will have buildings to go through this time around for people. Some fans complaining about combat changes and such in Dragon Age gets me to wonder, they apparently don't get bored with same type of combat styles over and over again.

 

Only one guy I know likes Sailor Moon, (Hes an idiot most of us don't like and not cause he likes that.) I actually only know of couple ladies that likes Sailor Moon.



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Lets just say 100, it might be lot less but then it could be lot more too. I know the credits from Dragon Age games are pretty long. I don't really ever read much credits except a handful. If there is a story playing I watch the story, if it was a comedy movie, sometimes those credits get comical.  :)  At least I think that would be a fair number, and yeah the professionalism probably dictates he cant say about it.

 

The reason I stopped playing several games is cause they tend to have the same appearance of males which got old to me. Slight changes here and there but not really enough to warrant a difference. At least Master Chief is unknown male. :)  He could be an Irish man with red wild hair under that mask. Which honestly I would love more if that is true instead of being another one of the other types that's too common. Friends agree too, they are tired of Batman cause its basically the same game over and over, along with Assassin's Creed. At least Unity will have buildings to go through this time around for people. Some fans complaining about combat changes and such in Dragon Age gets me to wonder, they apparently don't get bored with same type of combat styles over and over again.

 

Only one guy I know likes Sailor Moon, (Hes an idiot most of us don't like and not cause he likes that.) I actually only know of couple ladies that likes Sailor Moon.

Master chief has brown hair and was born of the colony world Eridanus 2 he is not irish.



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With the anime part of the discussion, I have to say I've always liked how neutral it is towards gender equality. Sure it makes pretty much every woman hot, but it does the same to men as well, and in terms of plot the importance is overall evenly split.



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Well said Lady Nuggins! And I would concur with others that you have come across as nothing but eloquent and passionate about the topic!

In regard to Master Chief, his looks have never been alluded to in games as they wanted people to inhabit the character, and apparently he doesn't talk in combat for this very reason. I don't recall him being revealed in game at all, if it was, it was so brief for as me not to notice. Book reveals are another matter.

Edit: Also Master Chiefs VA has also remained purposefully absent at Bungie events precisely because he didn't want people to conflate his looks for that of The personality under the helmet.
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Well said Lady Nuggins! And I would concur with others that you have come across as nothing but eloquent and passionate about the topic!

In regard to Master Chief, his looks have never been alluded to in games as they wanted people to inhabit the character, and apparently he doesn't talk in combat for this very reason. I don't recall him being revealed in game at all, if it was, it was so brief for as me not to notice. Book reveals are another matter.

It is kind of revealed at the end of Halo 4 if you beat the game on Legendary.

 



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Well said Lady Nuggins! And I would concur with others that you have come across as nothing but eloquent and passionate about the topic!

In regard to Master Chief, his looks have never been alluded to in games as they wanted people to inhabit the character, and apparently he doesn't talk in combat for this very reason. I don't recall him being revealed in game at all, if it was, it was so brief for as me not to notice. Book reveals are another matter.

End of halo 4 you see his white face with black eyebrows.



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If it's only on legendary, Iikely an Easter Egg at the very end of a game where they expected not to use the character much in subsequent games. I've only ever heard his skin was pale because of time spent in the suit (one of the novels did this from rough memory).

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If it's only on legendary, Iikely an Easter Egg at the very end of a game where they expected not to use the character much in subsequent games. I've only ever heard his skin was pale because of time spent in the suit (one of the novels did this from rough memory).

Halo: The Flood. Basically the novel version of Halo: Combat Evolved. 

 

But no, as a Halo fan his ingame appearance matches that of the books so I think the face is to stay. 



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You'd be amazed how many guys I've run across in the past few weeks who tried to argue that men are Sailor Moon's primary audience, and women won't support it nearly enough for it to make money.  Right, so that's why the $1000 Princess Serenity-inspired couture dress they just made in Japan sold out in preorder.  :P

 

Hey! Who knows, maybe they got that dress too. :P


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If it's only on legendary, Iikely an Easter Egg at the very end of a game where they expected not to use the character much in subsequent games. I've only ever heard his skin was pale because of time spent in the suit (one of the novels did this from rough memory).

The halo books are canon that is what chief looks like at the end of the end of halo 4 legendary ending is canon as well.



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The halo books are canon that is what chief looks like at the end of the end of halo 4 legendary ending is canon as well.

Not arguing against that at all. The books may be canon, but I would wager that most players wouldn't have even read a single Halo book. The canon 'look' whatever that is because I've yet to read a consistent description of it, is moot, because the intention of Bungie was to keep his actual human appearance not part of the main gaming experience at all. Even his VA was in on that. His look is his armour, something that most can inhabit comfortably when they play (yes even us girls.)

Anyway, off topic.

How about that fem inquisitor heh, heh?

I'm really keen to get my hands on that character creator and set up my Bugquisitor.

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I'm really keen to get my hands on that character creator and set up my Bugquisitor.

Please tell me you actually name them that. :lol:



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Please tell me you actually name them that. :lol:

What ever I was before, I now lead the Bugquisition!

I generally refer to my main PC as Bugwarden, Bug Hawke, BugShep! (Not isolated to Bioware of course I lead many Bug avatars of myself into battle!) :lol:

Now if you'll excuse me I have som bug minions to deal with!
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What ever I was before, I now lead the Bugquisition!

I generally refer to my main PC as Bugwarden, Bug Hawke, BugShep! (Not isolated to Bioware of course I lead many Bug avatars of myself into battle!) :lol:

Now if you'll excuse me I have som bug minions to deal with!

 

You are adorable. :D


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Halo: The Flood. Basically the novel version of Halo: Combat Evolved. 
 
But no, as a Halo fan his ingame appearance matches that of the books so I think the face is to stay.

Ugh, a terrible book by a complete hack. You should feel bad even mentioning it! (Just kidding). :P

Again moot considering it was the extended universe that introduced it and it's not actually seen until Halo 4. I have to say, personally, I've moved on from that franchise aside from reading an odd tie in book now and then.

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Ugh, a terrible book by a complete hack. You should feel bad even mentioning it! (Just kidding). :P

Again moot considering it was the extended universe that introduced it and it's not actually seen until Halo 4. I have to say, personally, I've moved on from that franchise aside from reading an odd tie in book now and then.

I was going to say, you were the one wondering which book it was. :P

 

Too bad, it's really good. Proof the shooter games can have RPG-level stories. 


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Here we have four men, of approximately the same age, all white, with brown facial hair. They are so similar that in the smaller version of the banner, I thought they were all the same person.  Meanwhile, many, many other video game protagonists also share these exact features: white, male, 30-something, brown hair, bit of stubble.  AC does one thing I've noticed less often with other male game protags: their protagonists are usually of a lighter build, which goes along with being about stealth more than direct combat.

 

I want to see more diverse male characters.  I want to see more men of color.  I want to see more men with different body types.  I want to see male teens who are awkwardly scrawny and greying men who are passing their prime.  I want to see men with blond or--holy crap, are there any male redheads in games?  That's not a joke, I really want to know.  Just like I want to see more diverse female characters.  When I complain that women in games are all thin, I'm not knocking thin women.  I am thin myself, but that doesn't mean I think every woman in media should be too. 

I thought those were the same man, just in different colored hoods. Haha maybe they're brothers.

 

As for red heads...I can think of a couple: Raz from Psychonauts,  and one of the main characters from one of the Tales games. What his name is and which game it is are a mystery to me though. Maybe it'll come to me later.

 

These aren't MC's but there's also Heat from Digital Devil Saga, he's not the main character but he's a very major character.From Soul Caliber there's Hong Yeon-Seong and then Killer from Shadow Hearts 3. Oh Marco from Skies of Arcadia, he was just an NPC though. 

 

...this is hard...I need to get my thinking cap.



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Its a warcry. For the Bugs! Or Bugs Onward to Victory! :)

Yeah that is cute.

I never finished Halo4 in legendary, rented just to view the story only. Thanks! :) I would never known, nor do I read the books.

I lost train of thought for a moment.
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AC does one thing I've noticed less often with other male game protags: their protagonists are usually of a lighter build, which goes along with being about stealth more than direct combat.

Idk man, I haven't played any of them, but according to the trailers their idea of stealth includes such inconspicious acts as:

Blasting and boarding ships

Scaling a building and walking queitly along the ledges IN ORDER TO LEAP INTO A CROWD OF TWENTY GUARDS AND FIGHT THEM ALL AT ONCE, surrounded.

CHARGING ACROSS A CIVIL WAR BATTLEFIELD


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I thought those were the same man, just in different colored hoods. Haha maybe they're brothers.

 

As for red heads...I can think of a couple: Raz from Psychonauts,  and one of the main characters from one of the Tales games. What his name is and which game it is are a mystery to me though. Maybe it'll come to me later.

 

These aren't MC's but there's also Heat from Digital Devil Saga, he's not the main character but he's a very major character.From Soul Caliber there's Hong Yeon-Seong and then Killer from Shadow Hearts 3. Oh Marco from Skies of Arcadia, he was just an NPC though. 

 

...this is hard...I need to get my thinking cap.

Luke from Tales of the Abyss ^_^


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Luke from Tales of the Abyss ^_^

 

Asbel from Tales of Graces too...although to be fair the Tales games are heavily Japanese...there are people with neon pink / purple / green / blue hair as well.


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