Is there anything about a female Inquisitor up on the official website yet?
I looked today, but it didn't seem like it. Still waiting for that to order.....
*yes yes, I know they showed some videos at E3 with a female Inquisitor.... but there's still nothing showing her or mentioning being able to play as female on the website*
They have the trailer that had the Female Inquisitor in it on the site last I checked.
Is there anything about a female Inquisitor up on the official website yet?
I looked today, but it didn't seem like it. Still waiting for that to order.....
*yes yes, I know they showed some videos at E3 with a female Inquisitor.... but there's still nothing showing her or mentioning being able to play as female on the website*
As said by Sasha Braus the trailer from E3 voiced by Alex Wilton Regan is up on the site. Beyond that however there is no other mention of the female inquisitor on the site nor is there any mention of the option to choose which race you play as. I really hope that changes soon though and we start to see some more official artwork with her in the media section as well as a section about gender and race choices. 
My previous post was very tongue in cheek, so no worries. My problem is mostly with finding inspiration. My characters aren't born as a result of a rational process, but rather sudden epiphanies. I've been questing myself, for the "thing" that will motivate a female character I'll be as satisfied with as with the others. Everything else will flow easily enough, I'm sure
Maybe I'll try and roll a female Inquisitor for my first run. DAO already proved remarkably effective for creating and developing characters.
I would agree with most posters here that what motivates women is not really different from what motivates men.
This is an interesting article about some of the problems with how media tends to portray the motivations of (the few) female characters in games that might be worth a read:
http://www.gamasutra...oes_problem.php
I would agree with most posters here that what motivates women is not really different from what motivates men.
This is an interesting article about some of the problems with how media tends to portray the motivations of (the few) female characters in games that might be worth a read:
I'm well aware. That's not really my problem. My problem is that after I've come up with the basics for a character and it comes the time to decide other details, such as gender, I automatically default to male. This may be simply because I'm a man myself, or because of the whole cultural conditioning where almost every story has a mostly if not exclusively male cast.
I don't really think I have a preconceived notion of how male or female characters should be written, though I could be wrong. I find the stereotypical male hero and his fridged female relation to rarely be appealing. And as far as the characters being victims of trauma, well... The main context I've been trying my characters on is Changeling: the Lost, which is in no small part about PTSD. And since my character rooster is all male, you get all this men who just escaped from a traumatic experience and start their stories from that, how they deal with it being a big part of their arc and personality.
I don' know. Men can be victims sometimes. Men can need rescuing. Men can have emotions. It seems obvious to me, and the strange binary where men don't get to be any of that while women ONLY get to be that would appear rather hurtful to characterization and the overall quality of the story, even if you ignore its real world ramifications.
Which trailer is it? I went through all of them in teh media section on the website last night and couldn't find the Lady Inquiz one.
Thanks!
I'm well aware. That's not really my problem. My problem is that after I've come up with the basics for a character and it comes the time to decide other details, such as gender, I automatically default to male. This may be simply because I'm a man myself, or because of the whole cultural conditioning where almost every story has a mostly if not exclusively male cast.
I don't really think I have a preconceived notion of how male or female characters should be written, though I could be wrong. I find the stereotypical male hero and his fridged female relation to rarely be appealing. And as far as the characters being victims of trauma, well... The main context I've been trying my characters on is Changeling: the Lost, which is in no small part about PTSD. And since my character rooster is all male, you get all this men who just escaped from a traumatic experience and start their stories from that, how they deal with it being a big part of their arc and personality.
I don' know. Men can be victims sometimes. Men can need rescuing. Men can have emotions. It seems obvious to me, and the strange binary where men don't get to be any of that while women ONLY get to be that would appear rather hurtful to characterization and the overall quality of the story, even if you ignore its real world ramifications.
It's tough to break out of making our characters just like us. Playing The Walking Dead season 2 I keep wanting to pick actions or dialogue for Clementine that I would do or say but when I reign myself back and think what would an 11 year old girl do or say? (even if it's a worse outcome)It becomes more interesting to me. If you want to give it another shot, I think formulating your female character's personality and motivations (vaguely, you can shape them more as the game goes on) before you start the game or even the CC is a big help. Also remember that no one is watching you or judging the realism or actions of your character, you can make her however you want. You don't have to make her appealing to men OR to feminists make her someone you like. If after that you're still not feeling it, well it is what it is. There's really nothing wrong with mainly or only playing your own gender, many women in this thread have stated they only want to play female characters. (though I may personally feel like y'all are missing out by playing one or the other 
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I'm well aware. That's not really my problem. My problem is that after I've come up with the basics for a character and it comes the time to decide other details, such as gender, I automatically default to male. This may be simply because I'm a man myself, or because of the whole cultural conditioning where almost every story has a mostly if not exclusively male cast.
I don't really think I have a preconceived notion of how male or female characters should be written, though I could be wrong. I find the stereotypical male hero and his fridged female relation to rarely be appealing. And as far as the characters being victims of trauma, well... The main context I've been trying my characters on is Changeling: the Lost, which is in no small part about PTSD. And since my character rooster is all male, you get all this men who just escaped from a traumatic experience and start their stories from that, how they deal with it being a big part of their arc and personality.
I don' know. Men can be victims sometimes. Men can need rescuing. Men can have emotions. It seems obvious to me, and the strange binary where men don't get to be any of that while women ONLY get to be that would appear rather hurtful to characterization and the overall quality of the story, even if you ignore its real world ramifications.
Sometimes switching the gender of a character you're already working on can be an interesting exercise. Sometimes it gives you dynamics you did not expect before. It might be worth it, next time you're inclined to make a character male, to consider what if she were female instead.
But absolutely, writing about men in contexts they aren't often written is awesome too. The gender barrier goes both ways. Recognizing that is not only important, it makes for better, more interesting stories.
As said by Sasha Braus the trailer from E3 voiced by Alex Wilton Regan is up on the site. Beyond that however there is no other mention of the female inquisitor on the site nor is there any mention of the option to choose which race you play as. I really hope that changes soon though and we start to see some more official artwork with her in the media section as well as a section about gender and race choices.
This is disappointing and making me antsy. Much as I love that trailer, a clear "you can choose your gender" on the website seems kind of necessary.
Although I saw the episode of Heroes of Cosplay when they did the DAI characters last night, and they did have a female cosplayer dressing as the Inquisitor. Not much was said about her, though, and I'm not sure it would have been entirely clear to anyone not familiar with the game that she was dressed as the protagonist.
Maybe I'll try and roll a female Inquisitor for my first run. DAO already proved remarkably effective for creating and developing characters.
DA:O was a delightful framework in which to create and role-play a character of your own design, imho. Not entirely blank slate, since they were given a background you could choose, but their personalities, mannerisms, motivations, etc. were all left to the player's imagination. Some people unhappily complained about the Warden's "blank stare", etc., but since I played it much like a first-person game (didn't look at the Warden in those scenes), I was never fussed about any of that.
A lot of that creativity has been thwarted by the voiced PC and animations, though, so the player is now limited to choosing some pre-programmed version of the character.
Believe it or not, a lot of people have written some very worthwhile stories using The Sims. If you'd like to work with developing characters in day-to-day life, you might find it worth checking out. They go through careers, relationships, raising families, etc. - quite a lot of real life is simulated in that game. If you'd like to take a look at some Sims stories, I would recommend: http://www.carls-sim...uide.com/forum/
Which trailer is it? I went through all of them in teh media section on the website last night and couldn't find the Lady Inquiz one.
Thanks!
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-2WA0oAz_Z0
There's really nothing wrong with mainly or only playing your own gender, many women in this thread have stated they only want to play female characters. (though I may personally feel like y'all are missing out by playing one or the other
Agreed. 
I know I had some kind of epiphany playing as female Shep (after playing as men pretty much my entire gaming life). Yeah it's just a game but... I dunno, it actually made me more confident in my own skin and with my own gender in real life.
I'm looking forward to playing as both genders in Inquisition, not to mention all races and all voices too!! GAH I am so excited for this dang game!!!!!!
I would be fine with this, preferably elf and Qunari in heavy armor.
This is disappointing and making me antsy. Much as I love that trailer, a clear "you can choose your gender" on the website seems kind of necessary.
Although I saw the episode of Heroes of Cosplay when they did the DAI characters last night, and they did have a female cosplayer dressing as the Inquisitor. Not much was said about her, though, and I'm not sure it would have been entirely clear to anyone not familiar with the game that she was dressed as the protagonist.
Let me help you, trust me you can choose your gender. It's not as huge selling point as you think. DA:I have everything it needs.
A cast of unique and memorable characters will develop dynamic relationships both with you and with each other.
Freely explore a diverse, visually stunning, and immersive living world.
Completely control the appearance and abilities of your Inquisitor, party of followers, outposts, and strongholds. Decide the makeup of your Inquisition forces and your own style of combat.
Your actions and choices will shape a multitude of story outcomes along with the tangible, physical aspects of the world itself.
From what I read I still play DA:I eaven if I was forced to play Dwarf male warrior.
Let me help you, trust me you can choose your gender. It's not as huge selling point as you think. DA:I have everything it needs.
A cast of unique and memorable characters will develop dynamic relationships both with you and with each other.
Freely explore a diverse, visually stunning, and immersive living world.
Completely control the appearance and abilities of your Inquisitor, party of followers, outposts, and strongholds. Decide the makeup of your Inquisition forces and your own style of combat.
Your actions and choices will shape a multitude of story outcomes along with the tangible, physical aspects of the world itself.
From what I read I still play DA:I eaven if I was forced to play Dwarf male warrior.
You are fundamentally not understanding the context of the post that you replied to. Lady Nuggins is well aware of everything you just said. The advocacy is for other people that don't know this.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't intentionally trolling, but I will suggest that if you aren't actually understanding the context of what is being said to pull yourself back and gain some perspective. If I see much more of this, I'm going to get increasingly frustrated.
If you aren't willing to do this, stop posting in this thread.
Sometimes switching the gender of a character you're already working on can be an interesting exercise. Sometimes it gives you dynamics you did not expect before. It might be worth it, next time you're inclined to make a character male, to consider what if she were female instead.
But absolutely, writing about men in contexts they aren't often written is awesome too. The gender barrier goes both ways. Recognizing that is not only important, it makes for better, more interesting stories.
This is disappointing and making me antsy. Much as I love that trailer, a clear "you can choose your gender" on the website seems kind of necessary.
Although I saw the episode of Heroes of Cosplay when they did the DAI characters last night, and they did have a female cosplayer dressing as the Inquisitor. Not much was said about her, though, and I'm not sure it would have been entirely clear to anyone not familiar with the game that she was dressed as the protagonist.
On the one hand, a trailer is worth a billion words. And on the other, there are plenty of people who won't watch online videos, for whatever reason. At work, lack of time, etc. If I'm looking for a new game and stumble across its website, I'm far more likely to go poke around what I can read, and if it interests me, then I will move on to the trailers to see if I like what I see of the gameplay as well.
So yes, allow me to throw my hat (or my not-dead fox pelt, in the case of my avatar) in with the "this STILL needs to be in the info about the Inquisitor" crowd. Potential players need to know they can select gender and race, not just class... There are plenty of games that allow for customization and class selection, but you're stuck as a male human, regardless of how that male human looks.
On the one hand, a trailer is worth a billion words. And on the other, there are plenty of people who won't watch online videos, for whatever reason. At work, lack of time, etc. If I'm looking for a new game and stumble across its website, I'm far more likely to go poke around what I can read, and if it interests me, then I will move on to the trailers to see if I like what I see of the gameplay as well.
So yes, allow me to throw my hat (or my not-dead fox pelt, in the case of my avatar) in with the "this STILL needs to be in the info about the Inquisitor" crowd. Potential players need to know they can select gender and race, not just class... There are plenty of games that allow for customization and class selection, but you're stuck as a male human, regardless of how that male human looks.
Indeed, and those are games I usually pass on. There are exceptions but it's usually a friend pestering me to play it (like TW2 which I ended up really enjoying after all but would rather have had all the branching plot and political intrigue but with a customized character)
Indeed, and those are games I usually pass on. There are exceptions but it's usually a friend pestering me to play it (like TW2 which I ended up really enjoying after all but would rather have had all the branching plot and political intrigue but with a customized character)
Geralt is not so interesting he couldn't be replaced with a player created avatar imo. The only reason he isn't, I think, is probably because they feel he works as a proxy stand in for the majority of their straight/male audience.
I know the witcher series is based on books, but so is their next one, Cyberpunk 2077, but the rumor is that WILL feature character creation (and hopefully gender selection, but news on that game is understandably sparse so far).
I loved my time with the Witcher game, and I know I will play the third when it comes out for all 100 hours worth of content it says it offers, however, I know I'm going to go right back to Dragon Age: Inquisition after beating the Witcher, because the value of the character creator is so enormous. I mean, to see every race, class, and voice alone requires at least 3-4 playthroughs-and those are huge differences right out front. That seems like each run through is an almost entirely different game from the very first moment. Certainly not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just so SO excited by the unprecedented level of customization Bioware seems to be giving us for this game. The four voice actors thing still floors me.
I loved my time with the Witcher game, and I know I will play the third when it comes out for all 100 hours worth of content it says it offers, however, I know I'm going to go right back to Dragon Age: Inquisition after beating the Witcher, because the value of the character creator is so enormous. I mean, to see every race, class, and voice alone requires at least 3-4 playthroughs-and those are huge differences right out front. That seems like each run through is an almost entirely different game from the very first moment. Certainly not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just so SO excited by the unprecedented level of customization Bioware seems to be giving us for this game. The four voice actors thing still floors me.
Well I'd be curious to see your opinions of TW3 once it's out. I recently saw one of their trailers that seemed to hype everyone up, and it turned me right off. It basically showed an assaulted, fragile young woman getting hung by some dirty male hoodlums and old man Geralt riding in to save the day. 
If that's typical of the men versus women dynamics in the game then it better be a pretty amazing story for me to enjoy it.
I would be way more on board in that exact same universe if I could customize my character, though.
Well I'd be curious to see your opinions of TW3 once it's out. I recently saw one of their trailers that seemed to hype everyone up, and it turned me right off. It basically showed an assaulted, fragile young woman getting hung by some dirty male hoodlums and old man Geralt riding in to save the day.
I would be way more on board in that exact same universe if I could customize my character, though.
Oh its definitely a class in 'how to enjoy problematic media'. No doubt. 
And the trailers shown at E3 amongst all the conversations happening about women/sexism in games really stood out like a sore thumb, and it was disappointing to see them highlighting that sorta thing. They're treatment of LGBQ characters, I think, is pretty gross. (I think Dutchess and I got into this a ways back in thread and came down on very different sides of it though to be fair to the devs).
Honestly, half the reason I picked up the game was b/c I liked the outfits. Geralt might as well be a Ken doll to me. I'm a real sucker for those vests he wears.
I remember liking the Witcher 2 story at the time? But I played it twice and...I could not tell you the majority of events now. Unlike, say, the plot of the last 5 Bioware games. It's heavy on the political intrigue which is cool. There was an assassin...and a dragon...?
Well I'd be curious to see your opinions of TW3 once it's out. I recently saw one of their trailers that seemed to hype everyone up, and it turned me right off. It basically showed an assaulted, fragile young woman getting hung by some dirty male hoodlums and old man Geralt riding in to save the day.
I would be way more on board in that exact same universe if I could customize my character, though.
Agreed^. It took me forever to pick up TW2 because I heard about the creepy sex collecting cards early on and was turned off enough that even the beauty of the graphics (and those freakin' trolls were amazing looking) couldn't tempt me into playing. Then, about a year after its release, I picked it up used, on sale for $10 at gamestop. At first, I was surprised how much I liked it, despite the opening scene w/ Tris which felt kinda silly to me (I mean, are we all really so starved for sex and naked images that we needed a gratuitous, pixelated boob and pubic hair close up?). I liked Ves too- she seemed strong, and not too terribly sexed up, especially if you could ignore the fact that a short leather jacket and uniform that form fitting, of that type, would make it difficult to move as dextrously as a skilled sword fighter would need to. Alas, 3/4 of the way through my first run, even Ves was turned into one of Geralt's conquests, and I was so disgusted by the fact that every really interesting female character in the game, save Saskia, seemed to be defined by either her sexuality or her willingness to have sex with Geralt. I mean, by that point, I felt like every single woman in the game was only there for either 1) titillation over her sexual shenanigans, or 2) for Geralt to sow his oh-so-manly oats with. It took me a further 4 months to finally complete the game and begin a second runthrough in which I sided w/ the other faction. I still haven't finished that play through. Shiela is just too over the top for me.
Geralt is not so interesting he couldn't be replaced with a player created avatar imo. The only reason he isn't, I think, is probably because they feel he works as a proxy stand in for the majority of their straight/male audience.
I know the witcher series is based on books, but so is their next one, Cyberpunk 2077, but the rumor is that WILL feature character creation (and hopefully gender selection, but news on that game is understandably sparse so far).
The reason you only get to play Geralt is because the games are based on the book series and they wanted people to experience the world as he does.
Yes the Witcher is based on the books, hence why above, but Cyberpunk is not based on a book series. it is based on the original Cyberpunk table top RPG from the 80's and 90's. Hence why in The Witcher you don't get to customize but in Cyberpunk you do.
I picked up TW2 on sale ages ago, I'd been put off pretty much for all the reasons already mentioned, plus the fans "ZOMG TW2 IS THE BEST GAME EVA!!!111!!!!" are hard to take at times Also, I've got so many games on the go and little time to spare so when I started it up and found the initial gameplay a bit clunky it put me off (I've been told there's a mod that makes it less so) I'll get back to it at some stage after everything else...
At the moment here - I am really really really dying to see the cc. I just need to be patient I guess *twiddles thumbs vigorously*
Agreed^. It took me forever to pick up TW2 because I heard about the creepy sex collecting cards early on and was turned off enough that even the beauty of the graphics (and those freakin' trolls were amazing looking) couldn't tempt me into playing. Then, about a year after its release, I picked it up used, on sale for $10 at gamestop. At first, I was surprised how much I liked it, despite the opening scene w/ Tris which felt kinda silly to me (I mean, are we all really so starved for sex and naked images that we needed a gratuitous, pixelated boob and pubic hair close up?). I liked Ves too- she seemed strong, and not too terribly sexed up, especially if you could ignore the fact that a short leather jacket and uniform that form fitting, of that type, would make it difficult to move as dextrously as a skilled sword fighter would need to. Alas, 3/4 of the way through my first run, even Ves was turned into one of Geralt's conquests, and I was so disgusted by the fact that every really interesting female character in the game, save Saskia, seemed to be defined by either her sexuality or her willingness to have sex with Geralt. I mean, by that point, I felt like every single woman in the game was only there for either 1) titillation over her sexual shenanigans, or 2) for Geralt to sow his oh-so-manly oats with. It took me a further 4 months to finally complete the game and begin a second runthrough in which I sided w/ the other faction. I still haven't finished that play through. Shiela is just too over the top for me.
The reason there is so much titillation is not because they wanted to just add random T&A but because this is the way the world is for Geralt in the book series. The dev's are trying to remain true to the way the world is written in the books. It's ok if you don't like it, but there is nothing fundamentally wrong with how the game was written.
Agreed^. It took me forever to pick up TW2 because I heard about the creepy sex collecting cards early on and was turned off enough that even the beauty of the graphics (and those freakin' trolls were amazing looking) couldn't tempt me into playing. Then, about a year after its release, I picked it up used, on sale for $10 at gamestop. At first, I was surprised how much I liked it, despite the opening scene w/ Tris which felt kinda silly to me (I mean, are we all really so starved for sex and naked images that we needed a gratuitous, pixelated boob and pubic hair close up?). I liked Ves too- she seemed strong, and not too terribly sexed up, especially if you could ignore the fact that a short leather jacket and uniform that form fitting, of that type, would make it difficult to move as dextrously as a skilled sword fighter would need to. Alas, 3/4 of the way through my first run, even Ves was turned into one of Geralt's conquests, and I was so disgusted by the fact that every really interesting female character in the game, save Saskia, seemed to be defined by either her sexuality or her willingness to have sex with Geralt. I mean, by that point, I felt like every single woman in the game was only there for either 1) titillation over her sexual shenanigans, or 2) for Geralt to sow his oh-so-manly oats with. It took me a further 4 months to finally complete the game and begin a second runthrough in which I sided w/ the other faction. I still haven't finished that play through. Shiela is just too over the top for me.
It took me no time at all to pre-order Witcher 3, I hope CD project red continue making games like this, don't change, and not listen people who cry when see little naked body. No double standards for violence and nudity, it's game for adults not kids. Well everyone like different think and it's probably our European culture is different from America. I hope you find your ideal game, sorry you didn't like witcher, I love it. Mostly in Witcher 2 huge plot twist spoiler
The reason there is so much titillation is not because they wanted to just add random T&A but because this is the way the world is for Geralt in the book series. The dev's are trying to remain true to the way the world is written in the books. It's ok if you don't like it, but there is nothing fundamentally wrong with how the game was written.
I can accept that, but that just doesn't make it any less unappealing to somebody who isn't interested in that sort of thing. It sounds very male gaze-y, which is something I can put up with for a 2-hour movie, but not a lengthy RPG. Every once in a while, somebody here talks up the Witcher and makes me think I should check it out, but then I read stuff like this and think "this game is definitely not for me."
It took me no time at all to pre-order Witcher 3, I hope CD project red continue making games like this, don't change, and not listen people who cry when see little naked body. No double standards for violence and nudity, it's game for adults not kids. Well everyone like different think and it's probably our European culture is different from America. I hope you find your ideal game, sorry you didn't like witcher, I love it. Mostly in Witcher 2 huge plot twist spoiler
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I don't mind sex and nudity in and of itself, but this sounds like it's made to appeal only to straight men. So it's not really surprising if people other than straight men don't enjoy that aspect of it, is it?
It took me no time at all to pre-order Witcher 3, I hope CD project red continue making games like this, don't change, and not listen people who cry when see little naked body. No double standards for violence and nudity, it's game for adults not kids. Well everyone like different think and it's probably our European culture is different from America. I hope you find your ideal game, sorry you didn't like witcher, I love it. Mostly in Witcher 2 huge plot twist spoiler
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It's not the nudity, it's the objectification of women that's the problem. Every male character is different and has different skills and personalities. Every female character is there for the T&A (except Saskia but...yeah) and all the sorceresses blur together in a mass of cleavage and wacky hair. I like their branching plot and political maneuverings but I hope in future games they can branch out and make some female characters that are real and interesting people like the male characters.
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