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[themikefest]

Heavenly Sword was a cool game.

 

Another game I played as a female was Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas and of course Skyrim. I know these are newer games, just thought I'd mention them

[Bob from Accounting]

Not intentionally, but more or less.

[Grieving Natashina]

Heavenly Sword was a cool game.

 

Another game I played as a female was Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas and of course Skyrim. I know these are newer games, just thought I'd mention them

I think the first one I played that was driven by a female character was Final Fantasy VI.  In my eyes, between Terra in the World of Balance and then Celes' role in the World of Ruin, I felt like I had not one but two main characters that were ladies.  Very cool

 

Most recent?  Well, I played the ME games for the first time.  

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 08 juillet 2014 - 04:31 .
Removed some references to tangent

[Brass_Buckles]

Hmmm.  I think the first game I ever had the choice to play a woman in was... um... Gauntlet maybe?  On the NES?  Green elf was a lady.  I think.  Then Mortal Kombat 2...  No wait, I can go back further and say I was a woman in Oregon Trail.  But only 'cause I got to pick my name.

 

In any case...

 

On the topic of the Womanquisitor...  Yes, I think the trailer could have shown more of her, though having a full trailer out early with the womanquisitor was a huge step forward in and of itself.  The gameplay demo with the qunari mage also rocked.  She's awesome and I'm totally going to play a qunari mage at some point, after I play my planned Dalish mage who is going to go muck about in Orlesian elven vs. noble politics.

[Allan Schumacher]

This tangent is now over.  Apologies everyone.

[Bugsie]

I'm amongst the ancient here (wrong side of 40!) my first games were game and watch handhelds - Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong 2, was starved of technology until my 20's when I got my first PC (My parents were technology illiterate) and I played Doom, Halflife, then later Starcraft.  My first game with a female protag was Tomb Raider on the PS1, my first game with a cc creator and female pc was TES:Oblivion.  I'm late to the Bioware party - I only started with their games when ME came out - but a female gaming friend of mine played Baldurs Gate and NWN and constantly raved about them, I have the enhanced Baldurs Gate now and just starting to dip my toes into that game.  I like a real variety of games FPS, strategy, RPG, puzzle games, whenever I have free time (which is not a lot) I like to dabble in whatever takes my fancy at the time.

[Grieving Natashina]

This tangent is now over.  Apologies everyone.

No worries.  

 

I'm amongst the ancient here (wrong side of 40!) my first games were game and watch handhelds - Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong 2, was starved of technology until my 20's when I got my first PC (My parents were technology illiterate) and I played Doom, Halflife, then later Starcraft.  My first game with a female protag was Tomb Raider on the PS1, my first game with a cc creator and female pc was TES:Oblivion.  I'm late to the Bioware party - I only started with their games when ME came out - but a female gaming friend of mine played Baldurs Gate and NWN and constantly raved about them, I have the enhanced Baldurs Gate now and just starting to dip my toes into that game.  I like a real variety of games FPS, strategy, RPG, puzzle games, whenever I have free time (which is not a lot) I like to dabble in whatever takes my fancy at the time.

BG2 was the first game that allowed me to customize my female character.   Since I know that members of the DA team read the forums, and some of them were around for BG2, I can finally say thank you.  You gave me something special that year.  

 

Trying a little bit of everything is part of the joys of being a gamer.  Most of the gamers I know play all sorts of games and rarely stick to just one genre.

 

_{I hit 35 this fall, so I'm not that far behind ya.}  

[ladyiolanthe]

The first video games I ever played were Mole Attack and Space Invaders on our Commodore Vic 20, back in 1982 or so. We never had a console system, but my brother and I would save up and pool our allowances to rent a NES with Legend of Zelda and Mario Brothers for a few days at a time. I still can't believe a place in my home town rented expensive equipment out to kids without credit cards, back in the day. I can't imagine that happening now!

 

In 1987 or so, we got a Mac Plus and I spent many hours playing A Bard's Tale, Dark Castle, SimCity, SimEarth, and Temple of Ra (which was actually just a shareware game that came with the Mac Plus, I think - but I spent hours and hours playing it).

 

I bought myself a PC in 1995 or so - for the purpose of playing video games, and I asked specifically for RPGs to play on it for my first birthday after buying the computer for myself.  My parents got me an RPG that I can't remember the name of anymore, it was an all-male party, and there was a queen called Scotia in it, who was bad news. I later purchased and played games like Might and Magic, Heroes of Might and Magic, etc. 

 

My brother, some friends, and I, used to set up a LAN and play Warcraft: Orcs and Humans against each other. Some female friends introduced me to Final Fantasy and lent me their SNES to Play FF5 and 6; I stayed up all night long without even knowing it, because I was so engrossed in the games. (The only other time I've spent all night playing a game without realizing it was while playing DAO.  ;D )

 

So anyway, since then I've played lots of other games, including WoW, Rift, Dungeons and Dragons online, Dark Cloud, Breath of Fire, Lunar, Bushido Blade, Streetfighter, .hack, various Final Fantasy games, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Diablo and Diablo II, several versions of Sid Meier's Civilization, Elder Scrolls, and ok, I will admit even Sims for a while, although I tended to make Sims based on the tabletop roleplaying games I also enjoy playing (I rolled up my first D&D character for basic box set when I was 6).

 

The first video game I played where I could be a female protagonist was Baldur's Gate, and I have loved BioWare's fantasy RPGs ever since. 

 

I cannot stand facebook games.

 

So, I am a 39-year-old woman who has, pretty much, played a variety of "AAA" games for much of my life. And I have a lot of female friends with a similar history.

[Bugsie]

This was the first forum where I met quite a number of 'older female gamers' (and some younger ones who are awesome too).  There has been a lot in common both within and outside the games!

 

'tis nice

[Allan Schumacher]

Cleaned up the thread somewhat.  I'm more inclined to moving on.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

I cannot stand facebook games.

 

So, I am a 39-year-old woman who has, pretty much, played a variety of "AAA" games for much of my life. And I have a lot of female friends with a similar history.

Me either.  My husband really likes Candy Crush, but it's not for me.

 

I'm 34 and you've already mentioned a lot of the games I've played as well.   You've got me beat in the MMO department.  I can only claim EQ2, DAoC, ToR, WoW and Rift though.   So you can add me as another lady with much the same gaming history.

 

Also, I've been a D&D player since 1987.  I was quite used to be the lone gal in D&D games.  However, I never got treated any differently than the guys and would always insist as such.  

 

When I was in high school, a DM tried to go easy on me because I was a girl.  He tried to let a critical fumble slide, because he thought I would get upset (even though I had played D&D for years prior to that point.)  I then pointed out I fumbled that attack roll, and he should roll to see if I hit anyone.  The fumble was confirmed, but thankfully I didn't hit my allies nor break my weapon.

 

 When he said that he thought I would get upset, I pointed out that "just because I have boobs that doesn't mean I can't suck up a bad roll."  

 

 

Cleaned up the thread somewhat.  I'm more inclined to moving on.

What is there to move on from?  I'm chatting about video games and D&D.  Fun stuff.   

 

 

This was the first forum where I met quite a number of 'older female gamers' (and some younger ones who are awesome too).  There has been a lot in common both within and outside the games!

 

'tis nice 

I cannot express how much of a safe haven I really feel this forum is.  Not only can I be out as a woman, but I can be out as a woman, pansexual and still get respected for my viewpoints.   That is still extremely rare to me and I'm really happy that BW is giving the BSN/BWF the chance to be the decent place that it should be.

[Brass_Buckles]

I've read a lot of requests for dwarven lady Inquisitor, and that's great, but as a non-dwarf fan... I want to see more of the human and definitely want to see a Dalish woman Inquisitor before the game releases.  Show me those face tattoos!

[Grieving Natashina]

I've read a lot of requests for dwarven lady Inquisitor, and that's great, but as a non-dwarf fan... I want to see more of the human and definitely want to see a Dalish woman Inquisitor before the game releases.  Show me those face tattoos!

I can certainly support seeing more lady Dalish Inquisitors.  Actually, I think it would be cool to see the iconic lady elven archer be featured in the trailers.     

[Brass_Buckles]

I can certainly support seeing more lady Dalish Inquisitors.  Actually, I think it would be cool to see the iconic lady elven archer be featured in the trailers.     

 

I'm totally not against seeing the dwarf female, honestly.  I just didn't get that into the dwarven origins in DA:O.  They were well written and I made some awesome dwarf women, but the environment was, to me, bland--I know a lot of people loved it, but the Deep Roads were so... colorless.  The whole game was brown, I know, but the Deep Roads were even browner.  I guess that's shallow of me?   Well, that and I love playing mages and rogues.  Dwarves make excellent rogues, but I have yet to see a dwarven First Enchanter...

[oceanicsurvivor]

I'm totally not against seeing the dwarf female, honestly.  I just didn't get that into the dwarven origins in DA:O.  They were well written and I made some awesome dwarf women, but the environment was, to me, bland--I know a lot of people loved it, but the Deep Roads were so... colorless.  The whole game was brown, I know, but the Deep Roads were even browner.  I guess that's shallow of me?   Well, that and I love playing mages and rogues.  Dwarves make excellent rogues, but I have yet to see a dwarven First Enchanter...

 

I feel the same Everyone talks about skipping the Fade section but the Deep Roads are the section I'd rather be able to mod out. I am curious/vaguely excited to see how the Deep Roads are handled in Inquisition. Between the more lovely color palatte and the increase in map size I'm both terrified by the prospect of going back into them and really excited to see how they have been reimagined.

[Grieving Natashina]

I'm totally not against seeing the dwarf female, honestly.  I just didn't get that into the dwarven origins in DA:O.  They were well written and I made some awesome dwarf women, but the environment was, to me, bland--I know a lot of people loved it, but the Deep Roads were so... colorless.  The whole game was brown, I know, but the Deep Roads were even browner.  I guess that's shallow of me?   Well, that and I love playing mages and rogues.  Dwarves make excellent rogues, but I have yet to see a dwarven First Enchanter...

I think only mages can hit the rank of First Enchanter.    _{I know you know that, but I had to tease a little.}

 

I didn't figure you were opposed to the idea.  For me, that happened to be the race that really got me into the series, and I guess I get a little frustrated that lady dwarves rarely get any love in the games or in advertising.  What's funny is that I never cared about dwarves much in other settings, but it was refreshing to see dwarves that didn't fall into the "drunken warrior with a Scottish accent" stereotype that I've seen so often.

 

That's why I despised Oghren and I love Varric.  I felt Oghren was a step backward towards the more Tolken-esque representation of dwarves, complete with his alcoholism played up for laughs in Awakening (something I never want to see in a BW game ever again.)  Whereas Varric represented the more interesting and complex nature of the dwarves of Thedas to me.

 

Still, that aside, I have noticed that the marketing team hasn't shown a female elven archer in any DA trailers yet, and it would be a great way to help pump people up.  Elves are one of the most popular races in fantasy, generally.

 

 

I feel the same   Everyone talks about skipping the Fade section but the Deep Roads are the section I'd rather be able to mod out. I am curious/vaguely excited to see how the Deep Roads are handled in Inquisition. Between the more lovely color palatte and the increase in map size I'm both terrified by the prospect of going back into them and really excited to see how they have been reimagined.

I loved the Deep Roads, but I liked the Fade too.  The only reason why I have the Skip Fade mod is because it kept crashing every time I'd cast the Wraith form and I just got sick of it.

[Gregolian]

The issue I had with playing as a dwarf in Origins was both origin stories felt so damn depressing.

[Brass_Buckles]

 

I think only mages can hit the rank of First Enchanter.    _{I know you know that, but I had to tease a little.}

 

I didn't figure you were opposed to the idea.  For me, that happened to be the race that really got me into the series, and I guess I get a little frustrated that lady dwarves rarely get any love in the games or in advertising.  What's funny is that I never cared about dwarves much in other settings, but it was refreshing to see dwarves that didn't fall into the "drunken warrior with a Scottish accent" stereotype that I've seen so often.

 

That's why I despised Oghren and I love Varric.  I felt Oghren was a step backward towards the more Tolken-esque representation of dwarves, complete with his alcoholism played up for laughs in Awakening (something I never want to see in a BW game ever again.)  Whereas Varric represented the more interesting and complex nature of the dwarves of Thedas to me.

 

Still, that aside, I have noticed that the marketing team hasn't shown a female elven archer in any DA trailers yet, and it would be a great way to help pump people up.  Elves are one of the most popular races in fantasy, generally.

 

 

I loved the Deep Roads, but I liked the Fade too.  The only reason why I have the Skip Fade mod is because it kept crashing every time I'd cast the Wraith form and I just got sick of it.

 

 

I actually want to see the dwarven lady Inquisitor, as well.  I just have those negative feelings about the Deep Roads... and all that brown interspersed with the occasional grotesquely impaled corpse.  Weirdly, everyone complains about the Fade, and I... never found it that horrible.  But I'm replaying as a warrior and Redcliffe is for some reason just feeling like a drag to me this time around.  I've even found I don't enjoy Alistair anymore and I used to gush over him sooo much.  I don't know how I'll feel about other parts of the game, several years later.

 

As for elves... I'd like to see an elven dual-dagger rogue, rather than an archer.  Women with Bows is kind of a stereotype; it's one of the few forms of combat that's generally seen as "acceptable" for women, along with support roles.  And yeah, I love me my archery (especially in Skyrim) and sniping (oh hi Mass Effect), and can even totally get behind the party in a support role... but I am also intensely aware that those are stereotypical roles for women in fantasy games, and would like to see that switched up.   Someone coming in from playing JRPGs may not realize they can be something other than an archer as an elf woman, for instance.

[Grieving Natashina]

The issue I had with playing as a dwarf in Origins was both origin stories felt so damn depressing.

I don't know, by the end of it I felt pretty triumphant as a casteless dwarf.  I came from nothing...hell, less than nothing, where my PC's options were either selling her sword or selling her body in order to survive.  I defeated all of the nobles that those snooty upper classes were so proud of.  I broke myself and my best friend out that jail, I killed that jackass and I left as a proud Grey Warden.  

 

I've played every race/and origin to completion since then, except for the dwarven noble, but that will always be my favorite.

 

 

 

 

As for elves... I'd like to see an elven dual-dagger rogue, rather than an archer.  Women with Bows is kind of a stereotype; it's one of the few forms of combat that's generally seen as "acceptable," along with support roles.  And yeah, I love me my archery (especially in Skyrim) and sniping (oh hi Mass Effect), and can even totally get behind the party in a support role... but I am also intensely aware that those are stereotypical roles for women in fantasy games, and would like to see that switched up.   Someone coming in from playing JRPGs may not realize they can be something other than an archer as an elf woman, for instance.

As long as it wasn't a redhaired elf, otherwise the screams of "ANOTHER TALLIS!" would be rather deafening.  It would be a nice change to see an elven lady that loves her blades more than her bow.  My second character was a duel-wielding City Elf.  

 

Oh and I felt that the brown color scheme in Origins was overall just too much.

[ladyiolanthe]

I liked helping Shale learn about its past, but I really, really disliked the dwarven politics I had to get embroiled in as a warden.  The whole time I was in Orzammar, I kept thinking of how Grey Wardens aren't supposed to meddle in politics and was rather resentful of being forced to decide who should rule a civilization I knew next to nothing about.

 

Of course I was a big hypocrite, 'cause I then turned around and made Alistair king and my warden Queen.  But I was a human noble and felt like it was actually the best thing for Ferelden, so that didn't tear me up as much as the dwarven succession did.

 

I actually kind of enjoyed the Fade because it was interesting to learn about my companions' deepest hopes and fears.

 

I will probably play as a human Inquisitor (which is weird, since I usually like to play non-human races in my tabletop RPGs), but do hope that lady dwarf and elf inquisitors show up for everyone who likes those races! I'm keeping my fingers crossed with the rest of you.  

[Brass_Buckles]

 

I don't know, by the end of it I felt pretty triumphant as a casteless dwarf.  I came from nothing...hell, less than nothing, where my PC's options were either selling her sword or selling her body in order to survive.  I defeated all of the nobles that those snooty upper classes were so proud of.  I broke myself and my best friend out that jail, I killed that jackass and I left as a proud Grey Warden.  

 

I've played every race/and origin to completion since then, except for the dwarven noble, but that will always be my favorite.

 

 

As long as it wasn't a redhair, otherwise the screams of "ANOTHER TALLIS!" would be rather deafening.  It would be a nice change to see an elven lady that loves her blades more than her bow.  My second character was a duel-wielding City Elf.  

 

Oh and I felt that the brown color scheme in Origins was overall just too much.

 

 

As a redhead, I'd like to point out that there's nothing wrong with red hair.

 

And speaking of hair!

 

I really hope that we can have curly hair this time.  Pretty please?  I'm sure it's too late to add if it's not already in, but DLC... DLC can have curly hair.  PLEASE.  And I'm sure I'm not the only frizzy-haired fan who wants this.

[HuldraDancer]

The issue I had with playing as a dwarf in Origins was both origin stories felt so damn depressing.

Weren't all the Origin stories pretty depressing though?

[Ryzaki]

Weren't all the Origin stories pretty depressing though?

 

Yeah the lightest one was the HN and...well that went to hell in the second half.

[Grieving Natashina]

As a redhead, I'd like to point out that there's nothing wrong with red hair.

 

And speaking of hair!

 

I really hope that we can have curly hair this time.  Pretty please?  I'm sure it's too late to add if it's not already in, but DLC... DLC can have curly hair.  PLEASE.  And I'm sure I'm not the only frizzy-haired fan who wants this.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it.  I have too many redheads in my family to judge.  

 

Oh, curly hair.  Now there would be a welcome change. 

Weren't all the Origin stories pretty depressing though?

True, but some were worse than others imho.

 

 

Yeah the lightest one was the HN and...well that went to hell in the second half.

In a handbag.   The City Elf starts off okay as well, all things considered, until the kidnapping.

[Bugsie]

I'd have to say Orzammer and the deep roads were my least favourite part of the game, it felt like a chore although I enjoyed the challenge of the boss fights.  Everything looked saturated with lightbrown and the politics and class warfare stuff felt somewhat oppressive in tone and content.  I remember how I felt going from playing Oblivion to Fallout3 - from this beautiful rich green country side to this scorched brown land - I felt really down about the whole game even there were aspects of FO3 I really enjoyed - it was the same feeling I had about Orzammer, but that was twofold.

 

I didn't like Ohgren at all, he epitomised everything I disliked in a character and his conversations with Wynne were creepy, I never took him anywhere aside from the non-optional quest.  I liked Dagna and well Varric - so who knows?