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Could we please see more of the Lady Inquisitor?


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#4951
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That was me, too.

 

I mean I left that movie torn over who I was crushing on more - her or Superman. :P

 

I'm hoping my Lady Inquisitor will be as crush-worthy!!

 

Whelp I can't make a Female human PC now I'll just end up making them look like her and won't be paying to much attention to the game :P Darn you easily distracted mind!


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#4952
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ladyiolanthe   think I spelled that right, sorry if I didn't.  It might be alright to have responses from gender choice but some things to be mentioned could be wrong.

 

example to that and stated before: "Im a woman and Im the bravest one here."  It was mixed feelings of some didn't mind and others not liking it. I wouldn't want it repeated for those that didn't like it at all.

 

Ok, if I can remember this, I will model an inquisitor after Antje. She is great looking in that armor. She isn't sexualized but I find her very sexy.

 

 

Interesting question. I don't think I'd want any kind of special treatment or anything that points my gender out. At most maybe a "hey you remind me of my long lost sister!" which makes the NPC a little kinder to you.

 

 

I think I've said a number of times I don't really want gender specific dialogue aside from the romances. But I know others do, but it's not something I'm personally keen on. I'm happy for differences to be recognised on races because it's part of the world (eg when my elf warden gets talked down to by humans).

 

Yeah, sounds like we all feel pretty much the same about it. I'd really want gender-based differences to be as minimal as possible, if they have to be included at all. Thanks for answering! :)



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a and b would be case in point but knowing Orcs in traditional D&D would get distracted to a degree, but try and disarm females. They try to capture women in general, or kill if necessary. Hence the many half-orcs.  So it wouldn't be adviseable to be half dressed around an orc.



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Maybe Darkspawn have a thing for humans/elves/dwarves/qunari! :lol:

Do Darkspawn even have gender? Or is it like Tolkiens orcs where female orcs are suggested to exist but never seen?

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Maybe Darkspawn have a thing for humans/elves/dwarves/qunari! :lol:

Do Darkspawn even have gender? Or is it like Tolkiens orcs where female orcs are suggested to exist but never seen?

 

Actually...

 

They do.  You do remember how broodmothers are created, right?  They have to abduct women.  Human, elf, dwarf, or qunari.  Possibly fex, if we knew anything about them... or if they even still exist, lore-wise.



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Maybe Darkspawn have a thing for humans/elves/dwarves/qunari! :lol:

Do Darkspawn even have gender? Or is it like Tolkiens orcs where female orcs are suggested to exist but never seen?

 

Well, they have a "thing" for all these races insofar as they need to kidnap females in order to turn them into Broodmothers for the perpetuation of the Darkspawn races... But I have my doubts as to whether they're actually attracted (sexually or romantically) to female humanoids.

 

I don't know if Darkspawn have anything like gender. I remember a post by David Gaider that basically suggested that Broodmothers don't reproduce the way mammals reproduce.  They are more like organic factories churning out Children that metamorphose into mature Darkspawn, if I remember correctly. Women abducted by Darkspawn and transformed into Broodmothers are completely dehuman/elf/dwarf/qunari/ized by the process.

 

Edited to add: Found it! Scroll down to the bottom. http://forum.bioware...-eat/?bioware=1 Among those posts, he also mentions that Darkspawn don't breed, unless you count what the Broodmothers do as "breeding."



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Oh god yes *shudders* I forgot. I must have purposefully forgot to read that part of the wiki!

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Ok, back to female Inquisitors... (I don't want to derail things!) Maybe this has already been covered earlier in the thread, but there's a lot of pages to go through, and I was late to the game. :/

 

Some of the devs have pointed out that there are a lot of women in powerful roles in the DA Universe - Empress Celene, the priesthood of Andraste, Flemeth, etc. And we've also heard that there will be some reactivity from NPCs, based at least on the race and (I think?) the gender we select. Do you think it would be interesting if, while interacting with powerful Thedas women, the Inquisitor would get treated maybe a little different based on gender? I think it could be interesting, but I wouldn't want it to be a really big difference, I think. Mainly because I would find that if I received some privileges from, say, Celene, for playing a female Inquisitor, I'd feel really awkward about privilege being turned on its head, creating disadvantages for those who choose to play as male. That's not what equality is about, after all.

 

The only time I would want that sort of thing is if it contributes either to character development or lore.  Things like:

  • Morrigan in Origins singles you out as the sole woman in the group and assumes you are less scared of her than the men are.  This makes sense for Morrigan, whose primary experience with other women is Flemeth and primary experience with men are the templars Flemeth scares away.  It shows how sheltered she is.  Obviously I don't want to deal with a character who is super sexist either way, but small personality quirks like that, that actually have a reason, might be nice.
  • Sten confronts you as a female fighter.  In fact, I would love to see more special dialogue with qunari.  Not just questions about whether a female could fight, but whether a male could handle the intricacies of trade or smithing.  Because in the case of the qunari, it's part of their extremely structured culture.  Of course, I would also want a chance to argue with them like we could with Sten. 

But I agree that largely, it would be better if everything outside of romances was kept fairly neutral.  There's usually just no need for it.


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One thing that Bioware could stand to improve (just on the topic of powerful women in DA) Is visibility. We can use either the Chantry or the Qunari as an example. Both are (lore-wise) intended to have women in powerful roles - especially the Chantry, which locks men out of positions of power. But we spend very little time interacting with them. DA2 was a better about this, with Petrice having a more prominent role and Meredith being a major character. 

 

Still, it is one thing to say that the setting has lots of powerful women and another to see them. Anora is, IMO, a case that was not well handled. We meet her as a damsel in distress and after that she's  powerless unless the player choses to give her power (but at no point does she show the qualities ascribed to her - cunning, political savvy, etc.). 


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Awww don't you want to be part of the CupCakeisition take over? 

Takeover?  I don't believe in cults....  :P



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Takeover?  I don't believe in cults....   :P

 

But we have cupcakes, cupcakes are only allowed in the nicest cults  :P


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But we have cupcakes, cupcakes are only allowed in the nicest cults  :P


Even the Dark Side only offers you cookies.
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One thing that Bioware could stand to improve (just on the topic of powerful women in DA) Is visibility. We can use either the Chantry or the Qunari as an example. Both are (lore-wise) intended to have women in powerful roles - especially the Chantry, which locks men out of positions of power. But we spend very little time interacting with them. DA2 was a better about this, with Petrice having a more prominent role and Meredith being a major character. 

 

Still, it is one thing to say that the setting has lots of powerful women and another to see them. Anora is, IMO, a case that was not well handled. We meet her as a damsel in distress and after that she's  powerless unless the player choses to give her power (but at no point does she show the qualities ascribed to her - cunning, political savvy, etc.). 

I think this is a really good point, we never really see the strengths of Anora in DAO and in DA2 Elthina seems to do little to curb Merideth or Petrice despite the fact she is supposed to be the head of the chantry in Kirkwall and both are supposed to be subordinate to her. I think it's likely actually she doesn't know about Petrice until you expose her and she does stand by the law in that matter but she never takes on Merideth or tries to stop her from overstepping her authority at least that we see (if she does she isn't very successful). It seems for the woman who was supposed to be the most powerful she didn't really wield the power she's supposed to have. 

 

It will be interesting in DAI to see if those women in power (those that survive the opening events that is) use their power effectively whether backing you or opposing you and how many of them will remain in power by the time the game ends considering we already know it won't be the same divine at the end.

 

 Cupcakes? Cookies? Serious inquisitors want to know, which side offers both? And more importantly are they chocolate?  :P​ 


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The Grey or Middle ground we offer Cheesecake of all varieties, lets wet those taste buds....who needs cookies or cupcakes, hehe,

 

I agree we get woman characters as a choice for out characters but the woman who are in power seem to wield it with very little effect, Elthina seemed to hold much power as a Grand Cleric of Kirkwall and could have easily stripped Merrideth of her position and replaced her or so it would seem but she coddled her as if she were nothing more than a spiteful child. An if you listen to her background story about her sister you have to wonder how she even got Knight Commander position, it's very troubling and all that hate and suspicion enhanced by the Red Lyrium and she was a major powder keg.

Orcino and while I know he's a man I think he was poorly written, he was calm and diplomatic even during the Rite of Anulment he was still trying to talk Merrideth down and offering to help her to have him suddenly switch to blood magic and confirm her suspicions was so out of character for him.

 

Anora supposedly the Queen of Ferelden couldn't stop her father from taking the throne and she seemed so strong as she mentions to the Warden about who really lead the people. I think for someone who was that strong of a Leader wouldn't put up with a General becoming Regent when she still sat on the throne, she basically became submissive and acted as a child to her father instead of a monarch.


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A bit random, but on the topic of women gaming, this literally just happened to me at the grocery store this morning:

 

That moment when the woman in the produce department recognizes your N7 shirt and asks, "Did you arrive here on the Normandy?" And without missing a beat, you respond, "Of course, citizen. I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite grocer on the Citadel." #gamerlife


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On the other hand, inept rulers is kind of the theme of Kirkwall.  The Viscount is as weak a leader as Elthina.  

 

I feel like Anora have been received better if we could have seen more of her.  The writers pulled a great reversal with her character, painting her as an innocent damsel to be rescued, until she strolls into the landsmeet and reveals that it was all an act.  But it's easy to have your first impression of her color your perception.  I didn't think much about her the first time I played through, but now I see her as cunning and manipulative.  And frankly, if you convince her and Alistair to marry, she is significantly less whiny of the two, despite the grossness of having to marry her dead husband's half-brother.

 

A bit random, but on the topic of women gaming, this literally just happened to me at the grocery store this morning:

 

That moment when the woman in the produce department recognizes your N7 shirt and asks, "Did you arrive here on the Normandy?" And without missing a beat, you respond, "Of course, citizen. I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite grocer on the Citadel." #gamerlife

 

That is the BEST.


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Just popping in to say that I'm glad we're seeing alot of the wimmins this time around. Not only is the Inquisitor they are using female, but they didn't use a human or elf. Dwarf would have been cool, as well. I typically play a dwarf female rogue. (shortquisitors, ftw!)

 

I really love the variety of females in this game. None of them are being sold as T&A but as characters first and women second.

 

 

To sum it up, Bioware: They know how to please the ladies..

 

 

Erm..That didn't sound right...


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On the other hand, inept rulers is kind of the theme of Kirkwall.  The Viscount is as weak a leader as Elthina.  

 

I feel like Anora have been received better if we could have seen more of her.  The writers pulled a great reversal with her character, painting her as an innocent damsel to be rescued, until she strolls into the landsmeet and reveals that it was all an act.  But it's easy to have your first impression of her color your perception.  I didn't think much about her the first time I played through, but now I see her as cunning and manipulative.  And frankly, if you convince her and Alistair to marry, she is significantly less whiny of the two, despite the grossness of having to marry her dead husband's half-brother.

 

The problem with Anora is that it's actually difficult to see that she was plotting anything at all at the Landsmeet. Her first plot looks to be abandoning you to Ser Cautherin, which is a pretty poor introduction. If you plan to marry her to Alistair - which anyone who isn't romancing him might well do - then she goes along with the plan at the Landsmeet, unless you have Alistair kill Loghain. 

 

So there are numerous outcomes where she never takes control over her own life. I didn't see Anora be even remotely assertive until I ran an Alistiar romance. 



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I apologize for going a little off topic here, but there is something I wanted to share with you guys.  Last night, someone rolled up an alt account in order to send me a harassing PM.  I'm not going into further details, but I wanted to tell you the steps I took to make sure the mod dealt with this person swiftly.

 

Before I continue, one thing I would recommend for the newcomers: Go to your profile, and edit it.  There should be a way to set up your wall to where you have to approve of any comments.

 

Okay, this is what I did to get a swift mod response.  Now, I can tell you right off the bat that your first temptation will be to delete the PM/comment.  Don't.  The mods will need it in order to track the harassment.  Send your report.

 

Then, you'll probably be tempted to yell right back.  Don't, because that will make things worse and possibly cast you in a bad light.  Instead, what I did was simply send them the following message: "Reported for harassment.  Do not message me again."  Then I put him on ignore, which should be your next step.  

 

Now, from here you can do a couple of things.  Either:

 

1) Check their profile.  If they have it set to "Show recent visitors," you can tell if a mod has stopped by.  Or:

 

2) Leave the message undeleted for about 6-8 hours to make sure the mod sees it.  They will not tell you if action was taken against the person reported.

 

When it doubt, try to keep your cool.  It will get your report in faster, and will make you look like an adult in the process.


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I apologize for going a little off topic here, but there is something I wanted to share with you guys.  Last night, someone rolled up an alt account in order to send me a harassing PM.  I'm not going into further details, but I wanted to tell you the steps I took to make sure the mod dealt with this person swiftly.

 

Sorry to hear. Sounds like a pain in the ass.


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Sorry to hear. Sounds like a pain in the ass.

As I put it in another thread, I found it too funny to get very upset.   Still, I wanted to let everyone know what I felt was the best way of dealing with jerks like that.   ;)



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Curious what Allan will say when we all say I am Allan.  :)

When everyone is Allan then no one will be...

 

Interesting question. I don't think I'd want any kind of special treatment or anything that points my gender out. At most maybe a "hey you remind me of my long lost sister!" which makes the NPC a little kinder to you.

I'm still holding out for an impersonate a specific NPC if you are the same gender, etc...type quest :D