Oooooh. Wait why? Would he want the dudes to look like anime too? (Though honestly I'd like that.) =/ I thought you guys were talking about bigger breasts without being absurd territory (honestly I did hope the fem Qunari's chest would be a bit bigger. But meh. Somehow I'll live).
Yeah they make me think of mounted cannon balls more than breasts. And the close up side angles just look...no.
All dudes in anime look same, with different hair colour.
There's an anime dude in your avatar tho 
There's an anime dude in your avatar tho
Yes, and yours too. So?
Yes, and yours too. So?
XD wait red hat's a bishie under those glasses?
Nefla's right on the way it should be. Isabela's did have me wondering how she kept it tied without falling out, cause they didn't seem right with all that flipping around and still containing them. Canonballs would hurt more too.....
Though I had to force a blink, nice Nefla. Sorry. 
Nefla's right on the way it should be. Isabela's did have me wondering how she kept it tied without falling out, cause they didn't seem right with all that flipping around and still containing them. Canonballs would hurt more too.....
Though I had to force a blink, nice Nefla. Sorry.
Making boob or hair physics for game like Dragon age is just waste off time.
Not saying about physics. Her clothing is too loose for what she has, Nefla showed a more proper fitting for those sizes, where it would be less to just drop out of.
Couldn't celebrating a heavily muscularized woman and declaring all feminine-ish women as "hyper-feminized, cartoony, and sexed up" be an equally powerful insult to attractive women?
At any rate, my intention was to declare my confusion more than anything else. My concept of a "woman" is a certain image, and I still don't see quite how this Qunari is anything like most muscular women or women with muscularized facial features, it is alien if anything. If they had put a "masculine" looking female or something that makes sense, pretty much every male has some degree of female characteristics and vice-versa, or something. I don't want to necessarily insult anyone, but I'm not a biologist and I thought the Qunari would at least somewhat like what more of the concept art was showing, where they are indeed somewhat muscular but not necessarily... that.
Anyway, you seem like a nice person and this is dragging in gender politics which is significantly more complicated than my personal quibble at the lack of a genuine femshep trailer. I especially wanted to contrast her with Zelda, who I see as simultaneously strong and attractive, when I could of just picked any number of random comic/anime art of the "super-hot" female.
I'd think it's also an insult that extremely strong or independent women (as this Qunari seems to be) couldn't also be attractive?
At any rate, I haven't seen any trailers focusing on the elves, why not just have an elf to balance it all out? Seems like no big deal.
OF COURSE IT'S ALIEN THEY'RE NOT HUMANS. What do you want them to look nothing like male qunaris?(who don't look "alien" to you?) They're still a bit more glammed up then the males but I was really impressed with the reveal and that it did NOT follow the concept art. The concept art was a Victoria's Secret model with small horns on her head and I was fully expecting Bioware to go down that stupid road like this:
But that REALLY seems to be what the audiences want after all. I'm not even one of those who think models should come in all shapes in sizes, since they're meant to represent an ideal of a certain aesthetic, but wow doge, so fucked up, much wrong if fictional female creatures aren't allowed to remotely resemble their male version.
I want to agree. Though Trolls and Taurens females are slightly better matching than the Draenei and Orcs. The hips and height at least, are decent on the right anyways versus the left side. The stomach doesn't really need to make an hourglass for those two on the right either. I think if they wasn't hourglassed at the stomach part, the two on the right to be better.
Two on the left.....fail.
Agreed. Ugh. Hulk male and waif female does nothing for me. it looks ridiculous.
Though on the note of female Qunari. Still hating how she still has typical BW twig arms. (which looks really odd when she has those thick thighs.)
So what I miss?
*sees people insult anime by using outliers as examples*
*sighs* 
Big boobed anime is crazy but I have to admit, I do like looking at them.So what I miss?
*sees people insult anime by using outliers as examples*
*sighs*
When the female characters are cartoons and their "assets" are intentionally emphasized, and there is actual concept art of them in sexualized, Escher-esque poses, versus more believable action poses, then the hyper-feminized characters are not a compliment to attractive people.
whereas men can be portrayed as fat, as stick-thin, as burly, as normal... and no one calls them "that thing," or complains that "they don't fit my idea of what a man is."
I will also point out that those "feminine" characters in, say, WoW or other cartoony franchises (including actual cartoons, including Disney) often actually deform the female physical form so that she's improbably slender-waisted, especially when she's holding up huge breasts on that teeny tiny waist (and most--though not all--super-skinny women don't have large breasts to start with). Most of us couldn't even look that way while wearing a corset. The scary thing is we see this deformation so much in the cartoons that we accept it as normal--including in your case, using WoW characters as an example of how more realistically styled DAI women should, in your opinion, look.
Instead, most of the time we get characterization put into a conventionally pretty female character (she can have any personality but she HAS to be pretty), while the men around her have been characterized first, and then designed to suit that characterization (he acts this way, so let's make him look like someone with that personality/skill set). If that makes any sense to you.
I was hoping this might die but I can't let a few things go there. For one, I would absolutely call that thing a thing if it was a "man." Iron bull is a thing as far as I'm concerned. (I guess all rock men are going to be offended now also) I find super-alien hyper burly whatever the god is going on to be endlessly annoying, "male" or "female." The only reason those rocks or space squids or whatever escape attention is frequently because a lot of them are designed by nerds endlessly fantasizing about their ideal female GF, and rarely by a nerd thinking about his own appearance for this supposed GF.
The League of Legends female characters, are pretty much all cute. However, the men (mostly) get to escape attention and be giant zombies or whatever and it bothers me in that game. I wish they would make more effeminate looking men that aren't muscular. I want the men to make me feel inadequate because of how insanely attractive they are. I don't mind women going on and on about ugly a guy is or how his butt is too flat or whatever, it's fine, I'm sure they have preferences just like men have preferences.
Secondly I was using WoW to illustrate what I'd consider an alien that I could nonetheless identify as a woman, not necessarily what I'd want to see. I used Princess Zelda as an instance of what I'd like to see, but If you find Zelda to be overly stylized/feminine/escher whatever that term was then fine, but she doesn't seem to have an excessively narrow waist or whatever the... other terms were.
At any rate, it's not that they "need" to be represented as such exactly. I've seen characters that have been slightly off or just downright unconventional (Haruyuki Arita from Accel World) and it hasn't really affected me for the most part. However, it seems that your bigger concern than a man's wants to see an attractive female is that it is not equally valid for a women to desire the same or discuss in the same manner, which I have said is not the case in points one and two.
So many people seem hung up on the "thing" thing. I'm sure everyone has a point where some male or female gets so warped and transformed that it passes their boundary line. I don't know anyone in the known universe that looks remotely like a female Qunari. If it had simply been a very muscular identifiable female sans horns and skin and all the craziness I would of probably just referred to her as a very muscular female. Or a very large female or a large male, in fact, I could even say those things could probably be cool in a certain context. The female Qunari is downright mercenary in it's assault on ordinary appearances. For instance, what would you call this?
I don't know anyone in the known universe that looks remotely like a female Qunari.
Since we don't have any horned, metallic-skinned giants in the known universe, this is hardly surprising.
I think she's gorgeous, and I'm glad she doesn't look human. (What would be the point of that? I'm already a little disappointed that the DAI elves seem to have moved back in the direction of 'humans with pointy ears' and away from the more distinctive look they had in DA2.)
The Orc female actually has a surprising amount of muscle for a fantasy race female, though.
Nefla's right on the way it should be. Isabela's did have me wondering how she kept it tied without falling out, cause they didn't seem right with all that flipping around and still containing them. Canonballs would hurt more too.....
Though I had to force a blink, nice Nefla. Sorry.
I don't know what that means 
So many people seem hung up on the "thing" thing. I'm sure everyone has a point where some male or female gets so warped and transformed that it passes their boundary line. I don't know anyone in the known universe that looks remotely like a female Qunari. If it had simply been a very muscular identifiable female sans horns and skin and all the craziness I would of probably just referred to her as a very muscular female. Or a very large female or a large male, in fact, I could even say those things could probably be cool in a certain context.
Yeah, something getting very warped and non human looking is a thing (Hanar for example) the female Qunari is not that. She has the same body and facial proportions as many real human women. You calling her "warped" "alien" and a "thing" is a huge insult to people who actually look like that. You're trying to backpedal and say "no really guys it's the horns I think are alien" when you've already given an example of a horned blue race that you think of as a woman and not a "thing." At this point you're either an irredeemable troll or a sociopath and you're going on my ignore list.
Its also worth mentioning that 'it' and 'thing' are words and insults hurled at trans people sometimes. So as a general rule, dehumanizing people, especially because they don't perfectly conform to your idea of masculinity/femininity is wrong and hurtful in a 'real world' way, regardless of whether or not the Qunari exist.
Ok clearly this is and has been going nowhere. I'm very glad that you guys like the female Qunari and ultimately I don't really care if there is a femshep specific trailer, especially for all the steadily increasing in intensity heckles, geez. I was trying to be nice and see if I couldn't figure out your particular issue but I guess that's just not going to work out.
So many people seem hung up on the "thing" thing. I'm sure everyone has a point where some male or female gets so warped and transformed that it passes their boundary line. I don't know anyone in the known universe that looks remotely like a female Qunari. If it had simply been a very muscular identifiable female sans horns and skin and all the craziness I would of probably just referred to her as a very muscular female. Or a very large female or a large male, in fact, I could even say those things could probably be cool in a certain context. The female Qunari is downright mercenary in it's assault on ordinary appearances.
No, there is no "boundary line" where male or female gets so warped that I would ever refer to a person as a "thing." Like oceanicsurvivor said, that exact word is used as an insult against real world people who are trans or nonbinary or even just don't entirely meet society's expectations about gender. It's never an okay thing to say.
Ok clearly this is and has been going nowhere. I'm very glad that you guys like the female Qunari and ultimately I don't really care if there is a femshep specific trailer, especially for all the steadily increasing in intensity heckles, geez. I was trying to be nice and see if I couldn't figure out your particular issue but I guess that's just not going to work out.
If you want to be nice, you can begin by listening when people explain to you that the language you use is hurtful and offensive. If you want to take the lengthy explanations as to why as "heckling" then that is too bad.
Ok I'm sorry if anyone is offended, does that help? I really have no stake in this game, however, I'm not sure how the freaking noise machine I'm supposed to transmit that I was hoping for a "traditionally female" trailer, because I guess doing so would imply some degree of dissatisfaction with the female Qunari. If you guys don't find "I want to see a traditional female as the female" without referring to the Qunari in any way as less offensive (as in, implying but not stating dissatisfaction) then fine, that is really my main point. It seems this kind "double speak" is potentially more offensive than stating a preference, but it seems BSN feels otherwise.
As to not expressing a preference at all, well I can also just keep my preferences to myself as well as I personally don't really mind doing that.
Ok I'm sorry if anyone is offended, does that help? I really have no stake in this game, however, I'm not sure how the freaking noise machine I'm supposed to transmit that I was hoping for a "traditionally female" trailer, because I guess doing so would imply some degree of dissatisfaction with the female Qunari. If you guys don't find "I want to see a traditional female as the female" without referring to the Qunari in any way as less offensive (as in, implying but not stating dissatisfaction) then fine, that is really my main point. It seems this kind "double speak" is potentially more offensive than stating a preference, but it seems BSN feels otherwise.
As to not expressing a preference at all, well I can also just keep my preferences to myself as well as I personally don't really mind doing that.
If all you wanted was to see a female human Inquisitor trailer that was all you had to say I'd like to see that too. There was never a reason to imply the female Qunari Inquisitor was subhuman. No double speak or anything of the sort was needed 
I was wondering the same... but will leave it at that.
Qunari is a race strictly for Thedas but it runs the along the lines with other games that have Orcs/Trolls. Not just computer/console RPG's at that, alot of fantasy tabletops have the human, dwarf, elf, orc, troll and other big creatures, which has been around before computer games started picking up on them actually. I played an Orc before computer was versatile as it is now. Qunari is a reflection of those races, a new race mind you, Devs created but when comparing fantasy systems from the tabletop which is Bioware's first games came from. Not saying Qunari are supposed to be the orc or troll though.
Personally, I prefer dwarven, elven, qunari females to be shown (even for males) to help identify that any race is playable basically, without having to show the CC off.
I thought the elven female inquisitor was on par of the traditional? I could be wrong, but I thought so.
Retour en haut
