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Isn't a Qunari Mage going to be attacked by Iron Bull as Mage's speak demon's fly and have to be leashed, according to the Qunari in DA2.

 

So technically wouldn't we be an unleashed Saarebas and wouldn't Qunari be obligated by the Qun to kill our Inquisitor or is this an instance where it's like Mage Hawke standing free in Kirkwall's Templar area not being noticed.

Well IB isn't an Arvaarad so it's not his place to be reigning in mages. He might be nervous around you, but like Sten or the Arishok he's not going to do anything about it. Plus he was a spy so he'd have been trained to fit in which would mean no random witch hunts and mage killings.



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Actually the first gameplay demo had a male human warrior playing through the Crestwood area. At the time this thread was made there had been zero female inquisitor representation in the marketing. If the game had been released when it was originally supposed to, there would have been no lady inquisitor represented at all :(

Like you I never play the default, however showing that there is the option of race and gender is vital for many players. A lot of people would not have played DA or ME if someone hasn't told them they could play a woman.

 

Oh really? I think I might have actually missed out on that. Either that, or it was not as impressive as miss Qunari XD

 

I'm from an area where there were no female MCs for years thought. Customizable characters? Pft... No one even DREAMED about a thing like that. So... I guess I'm probably immune to such things as wether or not a character is female or not, customizable or not for the most part. If it's a game that interests me, it's mine. I do admit I prefer the way Bioware does things now. Choices for win <3

 

Also, I think if one is really intersted in a game, one does his/her research before going for the buy, no? So strictly speaking having a female in any of the vids should  not really be necessary, as you'd be able to read it up and then enjoy your experience as whatever you prefer.

 

I can understand wanting to see some female representation thought. I remember how overjoyed I was when my dad gifted me Drakan. The first game that had all I wanted / loved in a game. A badass female protagonist. An awesome INTELLIGENT and witty dragon companion and a nice story. ... Then I realized it was all in english and I was like '-.- ... I hate you for tricking me into learning this stupid language that I'll never going to need outside of school... but I admit it is a cool trick' and put the dictionary next to me. Yeah, obviously the 'stupid language I'm never going to need outside school' isn't so stupid at all and I need it a lot - except at work - and even that is soon going to change XD

 

Back to the topic at hand thought... I AM curious what the default human female Inquisitor looks liked. ... *pokes Bioware team for a trailer*



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Also, I think if one is really intersted in a game, one does his/her research before going for the buy, no? So strictly speaking having a female in any of the vids should  not really be necessary, as you'd be able to read it up and then enjoy your experience as whatever you prefer.

 

Except that having the option of a female protagonist is for many people a reason to be interested and do the further research.

 

Also, people need to get used to the idea that a protagonist can be a woman.


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Except that having the option of a female protagonist is for many people a reason to be interested and do the further research.

 

Also, people need to get used to the idea that a protagonist can be a woman.

Yep. Look at Tomb Raider. Lara Croft is a bada**


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Yep. Look at Tomb Raider. Lara Croft is a bada**

 

Also look out how marketers referred to protecting and guiding her rather than playing as her.


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Also, I think if one is really intersted in a game, one does his/her research before going for the buy, no? So strictly speaking having a female in any of the vids should not really be necessary, as you'd be able to read it up and then enjoy your experience as whatever you prefer.


No, not really. It's not our obligation as female consumers to dig and poke through vaguely worded game press for scraps of representation buried under mountains of generic scruffy dudes. The onus of selling me a game, of convincing me that I should part with my money for your product, is on the producers and marketers of such games. There are games a'plenty in the market, if you want me to buy yours, show me why I should bother.

What a game that does not advertise its female protagonists is telling me is that it doesn't really care for my business. If they'll bother putting the time and resources into showing the male hero on video to convince guys to buy it, then bother showing me the female hero too. Convince me too. Telling me I should do my research because there's totally maybe possibly some chick buried under there too is just telling me that that poor female hero is an afterthought, as am I, and it's whatever whether I buy the game or not - as long as the male audience is not freaked out by womenz in their trailers, women can just go read a wiki or something.

So what happens then is that I simply don't buy such a game. Maybe I'm missing out on a cool game where I could have played as female, but if I'm whatever to a company, then that company is whatever to me too. Ultimately I'm not missing out on much by skipping a game or two, but that company sure is missing out on all the money I could be giving them. In the sum of gains and losses, for the minimal cost of showing me a female hero in a trailer, they've lost my business for their game, DLCs, microtransactions, sountracks, artbooks, t-shirts etc, and probably the rest of their game library too. They may not realize yet it because they haven't seen how much money I (we) have sunk into games that openly wecolme me (us) as a female gamer, but games that think throwing me a bone as a customer is not worth the effort are losing much more in the long run than I am.

This doesn't go just for female characters, either. People of color need to see themselves as poster heroes in game marketing too, not just be told that there's some skintone slider somewhere where you can look slightly orange. Queer people need to know upfront and clear that there's a new game out there where they can see their own lives on screen, not just be told that there may or may not be some obscure gay content hidden under layers of "safe" marketing. We all deserve the same respect and honesty every other player gets.

Don't let yourself be told to do your research. Don't take for yourself the responsibility of searching for reasons to buy a game, make the publishers and developers and marketers of such games hussle and sweat to convince you to buy their product. Make them show you loud and clear that they've got all these things you're interested in, instead of sweeping them under the rug and hoping you'll care enough to dig it out on your own.


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So I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the DAI website was recently updated to include a section on the Inquisitor (http://www.dragonage...n_US/inquisitor).
You can pick a race, then a class, then you will be shown a preview of the Inquisitor. I notice the default Inquisitor is *female* (for me at least), with an option to toggle between female and male. :)
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So I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the DAI website was recently updated to include a section on the Inquisitor (http://www.dragonage...n_US/inquisitor).
You can pick a race, then a class, then you will be shown a preview of the Inquisitor. I notice the default Inquisitor is *female* (for me at least), with an option to toggle between female and male. :)

 

Yep, default Quizzy is female. Nice. I think this is the first game with selectable gender I've ever seen featuring the female character as default :lol:


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I don't know if it's been mentioned, and it's not entirely new news or anything. But this month's Game Informer had a preview of Dragon Age, and the female qunari mage was in all the photos, and the one mentioned in the article, and that magazine's widely read, moreso than even youtube gamer trailers are viewed,  I think.


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I'm loving the female inquisitor(s) Bioware are showing in gameplay demos. Our Female Qunari Mage and Human female warrior at Gamescom. I do notice that in comment sections a large amount of guys not happy about this even though every (big) trailer as been a male human inquisitor.

 

It's great that Bioware is showing us the female inquisitors :) Hopefully they will do this in future games


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As I've posted before, I'm a male, and for Bioware to show as much as they have of femquisitor is great.


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*snip*

 

BRAVO. *likes a thousand times* Loved everything about your post. You hit the nail on the head. 

 

 

 I notice the default Inquisitor is *female* (for me at least), with an option to toggle between female and male. :)

 

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. :D

 

So, question: I think Bioware has thus far been doing a fantastic job showcasing the female Inquisitor. Really wonderful. I think the only thing we're missing is seeing a version of her in action in a trailer (unless we already have and I've missed it.. I do recall hearing her voice in one). Do you think all of this has been as a result of fan feedback like ours, or do you think Bioware was naturally heading in this inclusiveness direction anyway?


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I like to think it's due to the fans that we are seeing Female Inquisitor a lot more in demo's. In ME3 they showed femShep in a game trailer, so maybe Bioware was already thinking about showcasing the female inquisitor to start with.


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I'm loving the female inquisitor(s) Bioware are showing in gameplay demos. Our Female Qunari Mage and Human female warrior at Gamescom. I do notice that in comment sections a large amount of guys not happy about this even though every (big) trailer as been a male human inquisitor.

 

 

Makes you wonder what precisely the problem is these guys are having? ...  :rolleyes:

 

As I've posted before, I'm a male, and for Bioware to show as much as they have of femquisitor is great.

 

I have faith that people like you represent the silent majority.  ^_^ I'd like to think that all the moaners and whiners make up a small (yet loud) minority of male gamers. 


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Also, I think if one is really intersted in a game, one does his/her research before going for the buy, no? So strictly speaking having a female in any of the vids should  not really be necessary, as you'd be able to read it up and then enjoy your experience as whatever you prefer.

 

Then male protagonists aren't necessary either.

But sadly they're everywhere, no?


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So I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the DAI website was recently updated to include a section on the Inquisitor (http://www.dragonage...n_US/inquisitor).
You can pick a race, then a class, then you will be shown a preview of the Inquisitor. I notice the default Inquisitor is *female* (for me at least), with an option to toggle between female and male. :)

Yes I just found it on the aus version this morning too (sometimes we seem to lag behind for some reason) anyway I was really glad to see it back and they have pictures of all the race/class combos up this time too, yay!  :D

 

@ninetozero well said. It's how I feel about 'researching' games but said better than I usually manage so brilliantly said in fact, thank you. I'd like it more than once if I could.  B)

 

@thehomeworld thanks it's a very interesting article and I think another example of why representation and making female characters and gamers more prevalent and welcome in gaming matters and why I love seeing female inquisitor so prominent in the marketing this time around too. 

 

 

So, question: I think Bioware has thus far been doing a fantastic job showcasing the female Inquisitor. Really wonderful. I think the only thing we're missing is seeing a version of her in action in a trailer (unless we already have and I've missed it.. I do recall hearing her voice in one). Do you think all of this has been as a result of fan feedback like ours, or do you think Bioware was naturally heading in this inclusiveness direction anyway?

I don't think we've had that yet either and I'd definitely like to see this too.  ;)


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I shouldnt of had to research, dig and try to find out if a game allows female characters. I mentioned one in this thread, wont again. :)  I know at least one lady that agreed trying to dig for that particular game was annoying. If the characters are customizable, it needs to be said, not just brushed off on, oh its an RPG which allows customization.

 

I would prefer females being shown first when its customizable over a male custom character. Customized males tend to be a given, where as females were normally in the background, thought of as, oh yeah, by the way, she can be customized too. Wait, why haven't you shown her, what does she look like, where is she?! 

 

Two games within this coming month gained a buyer (me) because they opened up information about the female. Otherwise I would never bothered with them.


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So I don't know if anyone's noticed, but the DAI website was recently updated to include a section on the Inquisitor (http://www.dragonage...n_US/inquisitor).
You can pick a race, then a class, then you will be shown a preview of the Inquisitor. I notice the default Inquisitor is *female* (for me at least), with an option to toggle between female and male. :)

 

This is cool they're even stating you can pick your gender!

 

(Just reacting in real time as I see it)

 

I tried Elf first once I pick a class and species the end result of mage and warrior look very much female but I can't tell about the rouge I'd say the boots are female but that look has also extended to males at points in history.

 

The dwarf I can't tell at all if its male or female in either class

 

Human again I can't tell but the mage looks the most like a women the other two it's hard. The boots are the same but aren't giving me a clear idea there.

 

And since I saw the E3 demo the Qunari's all woman!

 

This is great even if I can't tell with some of them its great I can tell at all. For me its the helmets making it the hardest. I always leave the helmet off my girls so everyone can tell that even if I'm in a golmn styled armor set that makes me broad and flat as a barn they'll see my head sticking out and go, " Wow that's a girl saving our town!" One thing that annoys me in Skyrim is once I pair up my dragon bone armor with my 100% mana regen mask (that looks horrid) no one can tell at all I'm a woman unless I was standing next to a man and even then it may not work because he could be just as skinny and tall as I am! But I do don't mind at all that her outfits are as shown in all the demo artwork I'd rather her look ready for battle and ready to hand those dragons their teeth in both art and gameplay then place her in skimpy wear or light armor that works better as kink wear then battle. Now heres hoping her walk isn't supermodel and more neutral or natural.



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Also, I think if one is really intersted in a game, one does his/her research before going for the buy, no? So strictly speaking having a female in any of the vids should  not really be necessary, as you'd be able to read it up and then enjoy your experience as whatever you prefer.

 

 

There is research and then theres the company not bothering to inform. Most games that have gender select have players stumble upon it, that's not good. If the swaying factor in my purchase is can I experience this as a woman and I'm not finding that info readily available and I have to hunt over hill and yonder chances are low I'm buying your product if all you've got for me is post game perchase or a wikkia months after the games released, I'm moving on and frankly  after 20+ years of gaming I'm sick of male only protag and digging for fem heros state it up front and be proud let me know you want me to check this out because I'm a woman wanting to get into your world and what helps best with that is (shocker) being a woman in your world! I know its hard to belive! I can shadow a man like I've done for years,

 

I can put on my male ego hat if I'm finding him more compelling, but I'm not a man, I'm a woman so being one and relating to her visually doing all the cool things is so mcuh better and less mentally draining I have to do three times the work to be male all the time I've engaged plenty in my male half my woman half is sick of waiting for her turn to just be and enjoy completely the game from start to finish not only when things that the male does can engage her fancy in off handledly happens in the game. Being Ellie was better then being Joel if I can be Ciri even though I hate her marry sue character that'll still be cooler then being Garelt being Lara is way better then being Nathan even in her newest form I'd still rather be her with a personality neuter then be him. Being Fshep is beyond great I've got like 50 to 1 male shep (he's my spice here and only cuz he gets Tali) Being Templar chick in ACU would be better then playing 4 Arno's. Its spice, instant variety, I can sympathize with him I can cheer him on but I can be more emotionally invested in her story I want to be her or I need this to turn out for her, and finally its more generally immersive I'm not her shadow I can choose am I her or is she me.

 

The only reason I didn't write off The Division was I caught a tiny little box in my gaming magazine that said I could be a woman. I stayed to fallow destiny and was motavated to dig deeper into the game because I found out I could be a girl even though it lost my vote due to other elements I wouldn't have even bothered due to I"m sick of being dude all the time syndrome thats been plauging me like crazy for the last 2 years. Now I've dropped many games becaue I'm not finding that info out there was one game that was knight era that normally would've been my thing but its the typical manfest with your typical plot I ask can I be a woman to make something different (even if it is only cosmetic I'll take it) and for that game it was a no can tell so I went sorry I'm moving on. I'm way more intrested now in DAI because they're trying to showcase their fem lead I knew I could be one since I found out by accident in DAO but now its out I'm energized and I can get my friends to be as well.Now if only we could see her in a CG TV ad killing hordes, large (clothed) ruthless beasts, and maybe saving the man? Even if its only saved your life from backstabing beast sort of thing that'd be great.


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Wait, Division can be a woman player too?!  huh, guess I didnt notice that at all, looked promising but I wasnt considering it till was brought up here that its possible.

 

 

EDIT:  Also was made aware of another female with something more to see too.  ;)

 

http://forum.bioware...quisitor/page-3

 

Picture of the femquisitor with a ....bulge.

 

Is it a female's battle of the bulge's?  



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To be fair The Division's first gameplay demonstration had a female character controlled by a female player, it just wasn't clear what was going on. Tangent: the developer Massive Entertainment's first game Ground Control starred Major Sarah Parker, who is basically an earlier female Shepard.


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I dont watch all the gameplays or keep up with alot of games. Only if they have a trailer that catches my attention do I tend to focus on them. If that trailer doesnt catch what I am interested in, I ignore most of it. So, if that trailer I first caught of Division (xlive trailer) had female, I would of paid more attention to it. I saw a female but it looked like it was going to be a side person that follows around at first, like Gears of War.



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So, if that trailer I first caught of Division (xlive trailer) had female, I would of paid more attention to it. I saw a female but it looked like it was going to be a side person that follows around at first, like Gears of War.

 

Well, she's actually a player character who is in all the trailers. It could be clearer sure, but they have shown a female player character (and player) from the beginning, so points for that.



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that is beneficial, thanks. I will relook at them, the one on Xboxlive that I saw might of been misleading for me. I did hear a female chatting but didnt notice the character being a female, the one running to the right was, the one that went left looked male. But as you said, the one I saw may been misleading, I will check out more of its game videos.  Thanks :)



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I actually saw The Division for the first time with my bro when we were watching the E3 coverage and I saw the female character then too. It's on our get to play together list though it being MP rather than local co-op does make me slightly nervous as I much prefer knowing who I'm playing with and what kind of attitude to expect which is why I usually avoid MP... sigh. Oh and In the original multiplayer footage for rainbow 6 seige also at E3 one of the team showing that off was a female playing a female avatar (sniper too which I tend to like playing as well so I kinda noticed) so I'm hoping the female option will carry over into SP and Co-op for that game too. Hard to tell because some rainbow 6 games have allowed the option and some haven't.

 

I hadn't really known about the Division before E3 and Rainbow 6 was an E3 reveal but I'm glad they're showing female options and that's the main reason I'm keeping an eye on their development at all.  :P