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[Maliken]

Ves primarily uses ranged weapons, like at the knife throwing challenge and how she's armed with a crossbow at the initial interrogation scene and at the Nilfgaardian camp.

Her physique seems somewhat similar to Cassandra, and yet the latter is battering down iron gates with her shield.

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That has to be 1 of the most uncomfortable parts of the ME series, im not sure why any of the writers thought "hey, this is a great idea" when it was basically female Shepard date raping a guy who was clearly not interested by getting him so drunk he couldn't say no anymore. If they were going for comedy they failed hard, all it did was make Shepard look like some kind of sexual predator

It's pretty clear that she is ever since Jacob. Nice one Bioware, flawed characters are more interesting

[KaiserShep]

They went out of their way to make her a brutish stongwoman.

 

The term ''woman battering ram'' is thrown out way too often.

 

She also tackles your character and punches him and you can't even hit back.

 

You mean they went out of their way to make her a warrior? Well, color me flabbergasted.

 

The term "woman-shaped battering ram" is thrown out way too often indeed, if once is considered too often.

 

 

Well, they are.

 

A minority is what's outside the majority, so they fit the definition.

 

I don't really care to get into my real problem with this part at the moment, but this is besides the point. I'm simply remarking on how "realism" when it comes to how "minorities" are treated in a fictional universe is, more often than not, addressed the most from a position of someone who is likely not a member of that group, even as this involves cherry-picking this one aspect of "reality" from the fact that the fictional universe involves fighting fantastical monsters and people who can wield magic. It's realistic for people of color, for example, to get the short end of the stick and be denied plenty of privileges, which is fine and good for the people who in fact aren't. As Jack would say, "F*ck 'em."

[oceanicsurvivor]

Actually it does quite well.

 

The Witcher simply isn't a politically correct game that strives to please all the minorities that play it.

 

It's realistic. Women didn't widely join the military until our days. There's a reason Ves is the only woman in the Stripes.

If you prefer GURL POWER ( Aveline still provokes cringes ) and forced political correctness over realism then by all means, play Dragon Age.

 

Ah, yes, I remember when the men fought the dragons. Henry the 8th was still was still married to Anne Boleyn then. Good times. Shame he had to kill her for conspiring with the elves-HEY WAIT A MINUTE.

[WildOrchid]

Ah, yes, I remember when the men fought the dragons. Henry the 8th was still was still married to Anne Boleyn then. Good times. Shame he had to kill her for conspiring with the elves-HEY WAIT A MINUTE.

 

All the women wetting their pants when they see Geralt is 100% realistic. Totally.

Almost implies women don't have tastes and standards.

[Pateu]

You mean they went out of their way to make her a warrior? Well, color me flabbergasted.

 

Do tell me how many women fighters could tackle down a male fighter and punch him into submission.

 

Also Cassandra knocking down gates.

 

Dat woman powa'.

 

Ah, yes, I remember when the men fought the dragons. Henry the 8th was still was still married to Anne Boleyn then. Good times. Shame he had to kill her for conspiring with the elves-HEY WAIT A MINUTE.

 

They don't in TW either. They get destroyed by the dragon.

 

Only Geralt faces it and let's be honest, Geralt is the Captain America of the Witcher, he's far above ''human'' status.

[WildOrchid]

Dude.... learn to use the multiquote. It's easy.

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Geralt's pretty hot in W2. and now he has a beard...

[Little Princess Peach]

Do you mean the american voice?  Because we can hear femqunari with the british voice actor here

she asked if they had weapons nah we just stormed Redclife with the power of friendship god did she get more idiotic in this game

[Bugsie]

I'm perplexed what on earth were they thinking with that scene with femShep and Vega. I get that Citadel is a bit of fluff for the fandom, but that was just ugh. Did they not ask anyone whether this was a good idea? Vega was my femSheps bro, and subordinate at that. And yeah all the LI were subordinate to Shep, but they spent the entirety of ME3 of emphasising that James was totally against fraternising, I couldn't bring myself to even think about it.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I mean, that situation is pretty much 'have sex with her or die' so, it pretty much qualifies
 
Anyway....not much in the way of Lady inquisitor at Pax thus far. But it looks like the MP characters are an even split. Thats exciting My new hope is that Maevaris could be one of the MP characters. It would be nice to actually have a playable trans character in the game.

Speaking of MP, is a shame that there's already people that are angry about some of the characters being female & asking for them to be changed to male

[WildOrchid]

Ugh the Shepard/Vega situation...

[KaiserShep]

Do tell me how many women fighters could tackle down a male fighter and punch him into submission.

 

Can't tell you a number, but I can tell you that some women in fact can do this.

 

 

Also Cassandra knocking down gates.

 

Dat woman powa'.

I guess people will never really get tired of the gameplay issues with Inquisition. It's safe to assume that any sword and shield wielder in the game can do the exact same thing; Cassandra just happens to be the one you have in the party. With something so outlandish, her being a woman is a stupid thing to focus on, because no one can do this. If Blackwall, for instance, was the one to knock down the door, would it be any more acceptable, despite the fact that this should be physically impossible for a puny human?

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I bet she spiked his drink as well

[Pateu]

Can't tell you a number, but I can tell you that some women in fact can do this.

 

And I am calling BS on that.

 

The top female athletes in weight lifting, throwing, vaulting, running, jumping, boxing, MMA wouldn't be able to compete with anyone in the top 100 for men.

 

So why force it on us in Dragon Age?

 

But wait, it gets better. Because The Witcher DOESN'T force that bullshit on you, they  get called sexists. I blame feminism for teaching women that whenever they don't have their way, it's because of patriarchy and sexist pigs.

[Deviija]

 

Are we really going to go down the "women can't be as strong as men/women can't be as good at x as men" road of discussion?  Because that is what this poorly veiled line of dialogue is really turning into.  Even aside from all that, it's a fantasy fictional setting.  If people can headlock a dragon, fling fire from their fingertips with magic, and fart rainbows of Fade power, then a woman breaking a gate with a shieldbash should not be THE problematic hanging point to be called down and judged from the lofty peak of "realism" mountain.

[Pateu]

Right, that's why you should like Aveline. For example I think Valeria Adams could easily beat you up.

 

Except that wasn't what I was saying at all. I was saying a woman fighter wouldn't beat a man fighter.

 

Put Valeria Adams against this guy

 

 

and she will lose every time.

[WildOrchid]

Right, that's why you should like Aveline. For example I think Valerie Adams could easily beat you up.

 

Dem muscles.

[Pateu]

 

 

Are we really going to go down the "women can't be as strong as men/women can't be as good at x as men" road of discussion?  Because that is what this poorly veiled line of dialogue is really turning into.  Even aside from all that, it's a fantasy fictional setting.  If people can headlock a dragon, fling fire from their fingertips with magic, and fart rainbows of Fade power, then a woman breaking a gate with a shieldbash should not be THE problematic hanging point to be called down and judged from the lofty peak of "realism" mountain.

 

 

That wasn't the issue.

 

The issue was people saying The Witcher's impersonation of women and men in general ( with the exception of Geralt and other Witchers, who are Super Humans ) is unrealistic, when it is.

 

It somehow derailed to dragons in a pointless attempt to prove The Witcher is unrealistic, when Witchers are very few.

[WildOrchid]

 

and fart rainbows of Fade power

 

Ngl, that made me laugh pretty hard.

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I don't know he seems more interested in taking selfies. But anyway he doesn't represent the average person so I don't know what your point is. I'm not as extreme as other people on here I'm not asking for the armies to be half women or anything but I just don't get what your hate for Aveline is.

[phantomrachie]

Triss is the one that rescues Geralt more often than the other way around. If anything, it's Bioware's women that are generally drenched in stereotype.

 

I will admit that I never finished TW2 so perhaps she does later in the game, all I know is that I spent most of the game 'on a never ending quest to rescue my girlfriend' 

 

It's the driving force behind Geralt and his motivation to get involved with the plot of the game. Does she have some kick ass magic skills? sure, but that doesn't stop her from spending most of the game kidnapped. 

 

Triss suffers from Trinity Syndrome, we get told how kick ass she is, then once she meets the protagonists all her awesomeness is taken away and she gets relegated to a kidnapped victim or a bystander.   

 

Some BioWare characters my suffer from stereotypes but most of the time they are a well rounded character, with thoughts, feelings and opinions and the stereotype is simply another aspect of that, rather than it being their entire character.

[Pateu]

I don't know he seems more interested in taking selfies. But anyway he doesn't represent the average person so I don't know what your point is. 

 

Nor does Valerie Adams represent the average woman, that was my point.

 

 

 

but I just don't get what your hate for Aveline is.

 

Out of all companions, she's the only one that can beat your character ( and you can't stop her ) and you can't even dismiss her/counter.

 

Now replace Aveline with a guy and Male Hawke with a Female Hawke and tell me if it's okay for Guy Aveline to tackle Femhawke and punch her into submission while you can't stop him or fight back.

 

Does that seem okay to you?

[themikefest]

That has to be 1 of the most uncomfortable parts of the ME series, im not sure why any of the writers thought "hey, this is a great idea" when it was basically female Shepard date raping a guy who was clearly not interested by getting him so drunk he couldn't say no anymore. If they were going for comedy they failed hard, all it did was make Shepard look like some kind of sexual predator

Have you seen this? Apparently nothing like this happens to maleshep.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=gNs3Exop1HE

[KaiserShep]

And I am calling BS on that.

 

The top female athletes in weight lifting, throwing, vaulting, running, jumping, boxing, MMA wouldn't be able to compete with anyone in the top 100 for men.

 

So why force it on us in Dragon Age?

 

Now hold on a second. This isn't some professional athletics competition. This isn't an MMA game, or a boxing game. These people just wield swords and wear body armor. Why I should give a sh*t about professional athletes when it comes to the variety of fighters in Dragon Age is beyond me.

 

If one feels that this is something that's "forced" in the game, then that's really just too bad.

 

 

But wait, it gets better. Because The Witcher DOESN'T force that bullshit on you, they  get called sexists. I blame feminism for teaching women that whenever they don't have their way, it's because of patriarchy and sexist pigs.

 

Feminism does not mean what you think it means.

 

Slightly, because he's twice as thick as Cassandra is.

It's still ridiculous, but LESS ridiculous.

 

If Aveline had the physique of an ogre I wouldn't be complaining. But she looks like a woman and has the power of a Qunari. That's not okay, that's forced girl power.

 

This is what I would refer to as a double standard. Blackwall and Cassandra should be equally incapable of knocking down a big fortress door, because no matter how much thicker he is than Cassandra, their difference in strength should be irrelevant when the threshold of the door should be far too great for it to matter. I am stronger than my little sister, but I am no more likely to be able to push a Greyhound bus than she is.

 

In any case, this is the stupidest example, because this is clearly just a gameplay issue. You cannot differentiate stats between male and female characters in the game and make all female characters weaker in combat sequences, because it would essentially penalize players for playing a female character, or having female characters in the party.