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[SardaukarElite]

Don't get me wrong.  I understand the desire to be protected.  However, I also consider it a bit insulting for someone like the Inquisitor, or Shepard, who can clearly take care of themselves, and has lots of other people also looking out for them.  It's almost as if we're being told that they're too frail to take care of themselves... which, this is a fantasy world.  They totally can take care of themselves, and are totally not frail.

 

I tend to like heroes who are weak in some way, and romances seem a good place to explore this. I found Shepard most interesting when the combat fatigue really set in.

 

But then I'm also approaching this from the perspective of being a male who has grown disillusioned with power fantasies.

 

 

I gave my advice, you can agree or not agree, but if you don't, try and pay attention to how often this tactic is used to side track things.

 

Wow.

[Brass_Buckles]

Though it's not a Femshep romance (and maybe that's the reason why), my favorite romance ever with regards to that was with Cortez.  He literally has to drop his boyfriend off in a war zone all the time, and he does it.  Cheerfully.  He's extremely aware of the risks, and tells Shepard repeatedly how seriously he takes his job of getting Shepard safely in and out, but he never doubts Shepard's abilities to get himself back to the shuttle.  There is just this implicit sense of trust that they'll both take care of themselves when they're apart.  

 

That's kind of what I'm hoping for with Josephine.  I don't want to feel like she's the dutiful wife, wringing her hands back home.  I want to feel like we're two sides of the fight, her handling the tough diplomacy stuff while my Inquisitor hits a bunch of people with swords.   I want us to be bragging at each other over candlelight dinner about all the bloodshed we either caused or prevented.

 

This.  This is the kind of thing I want--not all this doubt, and worrying, and booby trapping.  Sure, the Inquisitor is mortal (presumably) and therefore might very well die.  But, so could anyone else in the Inquisition.  I doubt the Inquisitor would have been put in charge if she (or he) were incapable.  So I'd like to see this kind of relationship, where if worrying is done, it's done equally, but for the most part they trust in one another's ability.  It's war, after all--and war is an ugly, horrible thing.  Anything could happen.  But getting overprotective might reduce morale, and it might lead someone to protect their LI over someone else, and get that other person killed.  Or it might get the LI killed, when otherwise everyone could have survived.

 

I want to have the impression that, though the LI might be deeply in love with the Inquisitor, they both have lives outside of that romance, and should something happen to one of them, the other's life will go on.  I don't like getting the impression that you are Just So Important that the LI would die without your protagonist, or rampage, or etc.  That's just really depressing...

 

Food for thought.

[Puppy Love]

I said please let's stop discussing/debating it.  I think I said it twice.  This is the third time.  If you would like to continue the discussion, PM me, but be aware that after asking you to stop three times I might be less than friendly.

To be fair, you said it while I was posting mine another response to someone else, then you addressed it, and I responded to your response to my response to someone else.  Now I just said I gave my advice take it or don't, and you just said that.  Obviously I was stopping.  That was an I'm done statement.  I'm not going to not respond to a response because you said stop, then throw in a response.

 

Now in fairness is partially my fault as well, because my computer does not always inform me when a new reply has occurred, and my posts were long.  But you have been an active participant.  My first response was being written during your stop, then posted, then you responded with more argument.  So I responded back.

 

Now I'm willing to stop, but you do so as well.  I will not, stop when the person who asks me to, is supplying more argument.

[Ryzaki]

Steve is a good example.

 

I just prefer a bit of concern though. I admit to squeeing when Fenris admitted he worried about my Hawke sometimes in (was it MOTB or Legacy? one of those). Because yeah my PC does get him/herself into some rather dangerous situations and I often give them "I don't think I'm coming back from this..." moments. So that little "I'll protect you." is desired it's not like they'll be able to do much other than get squished with my PC so I can just see her having an amused little smile at that. More of a I won't let you die alone thing than anything. (which is why I prefer companion romances as that's more liable to happen there XD) I'm fine with it until my character is robbed of any choice in the matter even when it doesn't make any sense (like staring at Alistair like an idiot as he kills himself despite having the forcefield spell. That actually pissed me off. It wasn't romantic it was just stupid.) On the other hand if he had just charged before my PC could...I'd be okay with it. Still annoyed but okay.

 

Hopefully we'll have LIs that can cover both preferences XD

[Brass_Buckles]

Puppy Love.  Fourth request.  STOP.

[Puppy Love]

Wow.

I see nothing wrong with asking people to pay attention and at least see if what I'm saying has merit.  But I said I'm done, and I am, so I'm leaving it at this.  I'd like to stop, but so should everyone else.

[Notshauna]

Ok.. in DA2, (sorry this will go off topic a moment)  I finally decided to take someone other than Isabela with me to see Aveline... doing the courting thing. Merrill talks about only needing a dowry if courting him. Merrill...   OH! Your courting him!    I died laughing.   That was adorable.  I wonder if we will get to see things like that in Inquisition.  Sorry.. first time I didnt take Isabela with me on that.

That's exactly why I love Merrill, I'll be satisfied if there is anyone as adorable as Merrill in DA:I.

[Puppy Love]

Alexia:  I picked on Garrus because I romanced him, like... three times.  I adore Garrus and I don't think I can even romance anyone else in Mass Effect.  But the things I like aren't above critique.

Garrus is the only one I romanced in Mass Effect as well

[Brass_Buckles]

You know what I want to see?  I want to see a trailer with a snippet from that ball--if we get to dance.  Though, granted, so many of us want to see that scene that it'd probably be a horrible spoiler.  So maybe I don't really want to see it... I'm torn.

[AlexiaRevan]

Steve is a good example.

 

I just prefer a bit of concern though. I admit to squeeing when Fenris admitted he worried about my Hawke sometimes in (was it MOTB or Legacy? one of those). Because yeah my PC does get him/herself into some rather dangerous situations and I often give them "I don't think I'm coming back from this..." moments. So that little "I'll protect you." is desired it's not like they'll be able to do much other than get squished with my PC so I can just see her having an amused little smile at that. More of a I won't let you die alone thing than anything. I'm fine with it until my character is robbed of any choice in the matter even when it doesn't make any sense (like staring at alistair like an idiot as he kills himself despite having the forcefield spell. That actually pissed me off. It wasn't romantic it was just stupid.)

 

Hopefully we'll have LIs that can cover both preferences XD

Me too! I mean , I romanced Isabela...and she was really selfish . But her coming back for me....was heart warming . 

As much as I want the same thing as you Brass_Buckles (I saw something like that the 1st time in Jaheira Epilogue where it say even though you were together in a relationship . Both she and the Bhaalspawn were not in the same location and did their own thing like adult ) .

I still believe it is a matter of preference . I agree the whole 'But my love you can't go to the final battle...you will Die and I rather die for ya' cliché , we should get away from and bring new kind of romance where a female can be as realist as any men .

[Ryzaki]

You know what I want to see?  I want to see a trailer with a snippet from that ball--if we get to dance.  Though, granted, so many of us want to see that scene that it'd probably be a horrible spoiler.  So maybe I don't really want to see it... I'm torn.

 

Oh man.

 

I hope for the ball scene we can pick between outfits. (a pimped out dress would be very appropriate there).

 

It'd be nice to get a trolly option where we could wear full armor too. I can see a few of my PCs picking it XD

[AlexiaRevan]

wait wait...we can dance ? Like actually dance ? or just watch other npc dance ? OMG...Do Qunari know how to dance ?   

[SardaukarElite]

I don't think I want to know anything about the ball. At least if it is glorious I don't want to know, otherwise maybe it should be spoiled to lower expectations.

[Ryzaki]

Me too! I mean , I romanced Isabela...and she was really selfish . But her coming back for me....was heart warming . 

As much as I want the same thing as you Brass_Buckles (I saw something like that the 1st time in Jaheira Epilogue where it say even though you were together in a relationship . Both she and the Bhaalspawn were not in the same location and did their own thing like adult ) .

I still believe it is a matter of preference . I agree the whole 'But my love you can't go to the final battle...you will Die and I rather die for ya' cliché , we should get away from and bring new kind of romance where a female can be as realist as any men .

 

I admit that was a nice scene.

 

Like P3P my favorite game ever (XD) a lot of your LIs are protective but you're the leader and they don't question your orders or try to be patronizing (the one dude that does isn't an LI and he thankfully gets put in his place right quick by the previous female leader Mitsuru (who I have such a hard girl crush on). but one of them admits the situation sucks and they'd rather you not be in it. You can question him on that "What do you expect me to do then?" and he gets all flustered and apologetic I found it cute. Of course that's a YMMV situation though XD but it wasn't him questioning the female PCs competence (he's the one who pretty much says your lead and he's fine with following your commands)  and I need to replay his route XD it was cute.

 

Of course I wouldn't want all the LIs to be like this simply because some do find that annoying. But a few would be nice

[Puppy Love]

There's going to be a ball?

 

I both want and don't want to know...  and I'm terrified, because a ball without a dress...  is like half a fantasy...  I...  need a dress if I'm dancing at a ball

 

I would like to see so I can get my disappointment out of the way if stuck in a suit at a ball, and if I can get a dress, know it so I stop worrying about it.  I have serious trouble shutting my mind off about things that bother me.

[themikefest]

I like to see my femquisitor do some dancing with Josephine, who will be my LI for my first playthrough. Now I know this won't be in the game, but it would be cool to see them dance to this

[AlexiaRevan]

 Imagine getting cornered by Vivianna to find you the best Orlesian Soirée Dress ! then Leliana to find the best most gorgeous shoes to turn all your guest green ! Finally , you shall be trapped by Josephine who will teach you how to handle yourself sitting on a Table (with many forks and utensiles) . Then Varric will corner you to teach you some Orlesian Jokes (half of them heard from Bela) To lighten the mood !! OHHH I'm soo playing a Qunari goddamit and will look forward to something like this ! 

Although...if you don't know how to dance , who do you think would be a good teacher Vivi or Josephine ? 

[Brass_Buckles]

wait wait...we can dance ? Like actually dance ? or just watch other npc dance ? OMG...Do Qunari know how to dance ? 

 

I don't know if we can dance at the ball, but I'm really hoping we can.

 

There's going to be a ball?

 

I both want and don't want to know...  and I'm terrified, because a ball without a dress...  is like half a fantasy...  I...  need a dress if I'm dancing at a ball

 

I would like to see so I can get my disappointment out of the way if stuck in a suit at a ball, and if I can get a dress, know it so I stop worrying about it.  I have serious trouble shutting my mind off about things that bother me.

 

Yes, there's going to be a ball in the Inquisitor's honor, thrown by Vivienne. That is literally all that we know about it.  I'm also hoping for an awesome dress for the ball.  Probably wouldn't be practical to wear around Skyhold, though.  But I might do so if I'm going to go flirt with someone, anyway.

[Puppy Love]

 Imagine getting cornered by Vivianna to find you the best Orlesian Soirée Dress ! then Leliana to find the best most gorgeous shoes to turn all your guest green ! Finally , you shall be trapped by Josephine who will teach you how to handle yourself sitting on a Table (with many forks and utensiles) . Then Varric will corner you to teach you some Orlesian Jokes (half of them heard from Bela) To lighten the mood !! OHHH I'm soo playing a Qunari goddamit and will look forward to something like this ! 

Although...if you don't know how to dance , who do you think would be a good teacher Vivi or Josephine ? 

That sounds so amazing!!!!   I this idea!!!!!

[Puppy Love]

I don't know if we can dance at the ball, but I'm really hoping we can.

 

 

Yes, there's going to be a ball in the Inquisitor's honor, thrown by Vivienne. That is literally all that we know about it.  I'm also hoping for an awesome dress for the ball.  Probably wouldn't be practical to wear around Skyhold, though.  But I might do so if I'm going to go flirt with someone, anyway.

Yeah a ball gown might be a bit much for general skyhold use.  I'd rather a less poofy dress for that, lol.

[karushna5]

I really liked Josephine and Sera,  but a romance for women in general?

 

Love at first sight I would prefer not to, because I don't want a repeat of some characters where you look them up and down even if you have no intention of romancing them or are a different sexuality.

 

No creeping. I actually never disliked Jacob for leaving when I heard about it, mainly because FemShep seemed really predatory when it came to him on Youtube. vega was worse. None of that.

 

I would like that bisexual women were less portrayed as just so promiscuous they are also attracted to women by that nature. Bisexual characters that have stories, of a non abusive nature, about the same sex.

[karushna5]

 Imagine getting cornered by Vivianna to find you the best Orlesian Soirée Dress ! then Leliana to find the best most gorgeous shoes to turn all your guest green ! Finally , you shall be trapped by Josephine who will teach you how to handle yourself sitting on a Table (with many forks and utensiles) . Then Varric will corner you to teach you some Orlesian Jokes (half of them heard from Bela) To lighten the mood !! OHHH I'm soo playing a Qunari goddamit and will look forward to something like this ! 

Although...if you don't know how to dance , who do you think would be a good teacher Vivi or Josephine ? 

Oh I would love to have some sort of dress Uniform like guys wore back in the day if they were military officers, otherwise? Ugh. You guys should get the option for a dress, I just hope it is opt in. even my imaginary characters that I play wearing dresses make me uncomfortable. i spent my whole teenage years rebelling them and I have had to deal with so many comments, I just refuse to wear one on principal.

[Bugsie]

I tend to like heroes who are weak in some way, and romances seem a good place to explore this. I found Shepard most interesting when the combat fatigue really set in.

I think it makes for a richer PC overall. It's hard to assign specific characteristics to a blank character but I'd rather imagine a fallible and imperfect character than one akin to a space Jesus (or a DA version of space Jesus).

Is Morrigan's new outfit a ball gown? I ask because some of the demos I thought she had her old witch of the wilds rags on.

[Nefla]

I tend to like heroes who are weak in some way, and romances seem a good place to explore this. I found Shepard most interesting when the combat fatigue really set in.

 

But then I'm also approaching this from the perspective of being a male who has grown disillusioned with power fantasies.

Same here. I don't want the hero to be weak all the time but I don't want them to be infallible either, I want them strong but with human weakness. I get bored if I am playing a god-like Mary Sue who is so much better at combat than everyone else that no one would ever have to worry about them. Fighting some drunk mercenaries in a bar? No need for the LI to worry. Going into a dark, endless cave alone to fight a huge monster that has killed everyone who has dared cross its' path? Some loving concern would not be out of place. I want to see the PC fail at times, worry at times, be sick with grief at times and not just a paragon of strength and confidence.

 

Put me in the camp of wanting a LI that can be as strong as the PC, the two can take turns saving each other's skin, and who is traditionally respectful and chivalrous. One of my favorite parts in KotOR was when Carth chews out that sleazy guy in the Tatooine bar for sleazing on female Revan. I don't want my PC to always be the leader, always be the last word, always have the dominant opinion in everything and the LI never really stands up to them. This gives me the impression of meek, subservient LI's which is unappealing to me.

[Ryzaki]

Whenever I make my infallible PCs...they always end up single XD too perfect for the world I guess.