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[Verly]

What some dev said is that they were not able to animate a dress for the ball.  We haven't seen what the outfit actually looks like.  For all I know they will make a special version of whatever outfit for the female inquisitor.  Some people expect it to be like it was for DA2, but we all know that whole game was rushed.  So far,  from what I've seen women in armor look pretty darn good in this game. so, I for one, am not really worried about it. 

[themikefest]

I'm just going to throw this up here because I know that art takes from real life so on and so forth but I always view the Inquisitor as a military leader.  Just comparing male and female dress uniforms in the US Military:

 

This is the super duper dress uniforms and outside of the medals and chevrons denoting rank there is not a HUGE difference.  I get people want (some at least) their female PC to have these crazy ball gowns or evening dresses but at the same time...  at least as a military leader it would make sense...  to me at least if the female "dress" uniform would look like the male one, at least closely.

Those are the dress blues. Very nice. I never wore dress blues, I just had my dress greens

[sandalisthemaker]

 

It appears to be a nice suit from what we can tell.  Red top, gold sash and what appears to be black trousers.  As I mentioned in the above post, that does work for more and so far, doesn't look like the MotA nightmare or the N7 dress.  I am very disappointed though, that we couldn't get a dress. I know they've cited animation issues as a reason and I can accept it.  I just don't like it.  

 

Like I said, I'll be over it in a day or two.  

 

 

Got one.  This nightmare for Hawke and no, there wasn't a dress option for Fem Hawke:

 

 

 

Oh, I'm familiar with the MotA outfit.  I was asking if someone had a source for the claim that females will have a similar outfit in DA: I.  Did a dev say it?

 

I'm wondering if it will be the exact same outfit as the male clothing, the same way that it is in the picture above.  No extra effort for fem characters.

[Gregolian]

Those are the dress blues. Very nice. I never wore dress blues, I just had my dress greens

I heard Marines have two sets of dress blues.  The white pants with white gloves for things like the Marine Ball and such and then the dress blues where the top is the same but you have blue pants with the red stripe.

 

That said my biggest point was how very similar military dress uniforms can be.

[Grieving Natashina]

What some dev said is that they were not able to animate a dress for the ball.  We haven't seen what the outfit actually looks like.  For all I know they will make a special version of whatever outfit for the female inquisitor.  Some people expect it to be like it was for DA2, but we all know that whole game was rushed.  So far,  from what I've seen women in armor look pretty darn good in this game. so, I for one, am not really worried about it. 

 

Oh, I'm familiar with the MotA outfit.  I was asking if someone had a source for the claim that females will have a similar outfit in DA: I.  Did a dev say it?

 

I'm wondering if it will be the exact same outfit as the male clothing, the same way that it is in the picture above.  No extra effort for fem characters.

 

 

I don't expect it to be like DA2.  What many of us are concerned about is that they won't do a separate outfit, or if they do a female version, it'll look terrible.  I'll be the first to admit that I'm jumping the gun here, and I know we haven't seen the whole picture yet (literally and figuratively.)  Still, if a dress is too hard to animate, I can't see even a skirt showing up on the female Inquisitor at all.  

 

The pantsuit so far looks really nice, and that's all I can reasonably ask for.

 

It's a very minor nitpick for me overall.  The women warriors in the game look actually like capable warriors in practical armor.  Except for Vivi, but she gets an automatic pass for being a fashion conscious mage.  Sera looks fitting for a rogue and that bodes very well for someone like me that loves playing archers.  That is far more important, as well as showing more widely public ads featuring the female PC as well.

 

I've been venting, but as a gamer, I do try to keep my priorities straight.  

 

Respectable armor on kickass female characters receiving more ad time >>>>>>>>>>a dress in a ball.  

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Have to say, I really like the sound of Sumalee Montano's Inquisitor voice from what we heard of it in that CC stream. Pitch-perfect for a Qunari. 

[sandalisthemaker]

 

 

 

 

I don't expect it to be like DA2.  What many of us are concerned about is that they won't do a separate outfit, or if they do a female version, it'll look terrible.  I'll be the first to admit that I'm jumping the gun here, and I know we haven't seen the whole picture yet (literally and figuratively.)  Still, if a dress is too hard to animate, I can't see even a skirt showing up on the female Inquisitor at all.  

 

The pantsuit so far looks really nice, and that's all I can reasonably ask for.

 

It's a very minor nitpick for me overall.  The women warriors in the game look actually like capable warriors in practical armor.  Except for Vivi, but she gets an automatic pass for being a fashion conscious mage.  Sera looks fitting for a rogue and that bodes very well for someone like me that loves playing archers.  That is far more important, as well as showing more widely public ads featuring the female PC as well.

 

I've been venting, but as a gamer, I do try to keep my priorities straight.  

 

Respectable armor on kickass female characters receiving more ad time >>>>>>>>>>a dress in a ball.  

 

 

They showed Orlesians dancing in one of the trailers.  The women all had ballgowns.

 

Unless every woman NPC at the ball is suddenly wearing a pant suit, (I would be shocked at the dreadfulness of such a massive faux pas), then claims about not being able to animate dresses for the Inquisitor when all the other women are wearing ball gowns is simply a load of hot air.

[Ryzaki]

They showed Orlesians dancing in one of the trailers.  The women all had ballgowns.

 

Unless every woman NPC at the ball is suddenly wearing a pant suit, I would be shocked at the dreadfulness of it all, then claims about not being able to animate dresses for the Inquisitor when all the other women are wearing ball gowns is simply a load of hot air.

 

I believe it was about combat animations being difficult to animate? I'm not 100% on this.

 

It's pretty sure those ladies in dresses won't be fighting.

 

This of course brings up why can't my PC go anywhere without being dragged in a fight.

[sandalisthemaker]

I believe it was about combat animations being difficult to animate? I'm not 100% on this.

 

It's pretty sure those ladies in dresses won't be fighting.

 

This of course brings up why can't my PC go anywhere without being dragged in a fight.

 

Which would imply that we'd be thrown into combat while wearing formal party attire with presumably no armor rating or stat buffs in a game with no healing spells and no health regen.  Sounds like a good idea. 

[Tayah]

So within the last two days we've found out that

 

1) Female characters are forced to wear frumpy man clothes to the ball like MotA and there are no dress options

2) Female Qunari hairstyles are limited to 3 and all look like someone added some low res tar lumps to her scalp

3) Healing spells and specializations are gone and potions are more limited than Dark Souls

 

My excitement sure took a nosedive quick.

1) There is no dress for the ball but what female inquisitors wear to the ball is speculation at the moment, we don't know if it's frumpy man clothes, cool uniform as seen in the marine dress blues or something else yet. We also don't know whether this applies to mage robes or clothes outside the ball as the reasons for no dresses were animation and You Can't Fight In a Dress according to the dev who answered the question. Disclaimer: if you're preparing for the worst so as not to get your hopes up ignore this answer... it might lead to (false) hope, for which I take no responsibility. 

2) Agreed totally although I will still play a female qunari but with a prissy little mohawk rather than the glorious, thick, short hairstyle I had imagined.   (I'd have taken a proper, tall, intimidating mohawk too... the one we have just seems... meek and very definitely NOT intimidating.

3) Yeah this is really odd, I'm reserving judgement until I play and find out about the health grenade and health potion upgrades you can get but yeah... not sure about this. 

 

 

They showed Orlesians dancing in one of the trailers.  The women all had ballgowns.

 

Unless every woman NPC at the ball is suddenly wearing a pant suit, (I would be shocked at the dreadfulness of such a massive faux pas), then claims about not being able to animate dresses for the Inquisitor when all the other women are wearing ball gowns is simply a load of hot air.

I think it's disappointing that the option isn't there as well though it would be four dresses for the different inquisitors and you're not just dancing at the ball. I think it came down to zots as Allen likes to call them and they felt there wasn't enough return for the effort required for one event. And what Ryzaki said.

 

 

I believe it was about combat animations being difficult to animate? I'm not 100% on this.

 

It's pretty sure those ladies in dresses won't be fighting.

 

This of course brings up why can't my PC go anywhere without being dragged in a fight.

Yeah I know right... just for once a night out without having to save the world would be nice. 

[Ryzaki]

Which would imply that we'd be thrown into combat while wearing formal party attire with presumably no armor rating or stat buffs in a game with no healing spells and no health regen.  Sounds like a good idea. 

 

Oh lawd. Hopefully we'll be warned ahead of time and that's why the femquizzy opts not to wear a ball gown?

[Ryzaki]

 

Yeah I know right... just for once a night out without having to save the world would be nice. 

 

Well least we're not Hawke where walking home is enough for a horde of gangsters to attempt to kill you

[Steelcan]

Well least we're not Hawke where walking home is enough for a horde of gangsters to attempt to kill you

Shepard tried a night out on the town and got attacked by a secret clone working with drug addicts and psych cases

[Grieving Natashina]

Well least we're not Hawke where walking home is enough for a horde of gangsters to attempt to kill you

Nope, instead we'll get Red Templars trying to ambush the party, hence why we need to be in pants.  

[Tayah]

Shepard tried a night out on the town and got attacked by a secret clone working with drug addicts and psych cases

Maybe the problem is going out... it's looking like if you want a nice peaceful evening you have to stay in if you're a bioware character... 

 

Wait is that how your home gets attacked? Cause you chose a nice quiet evening in? An early night is certainly no more restful for human noble in DAO.

 

PCs get no rest it seems. 

[Nefla]

I'm just going to throw this up here because I know that art takes from real life so on and so forth but I always view the Inquisitor as a military leader.  Just comparing male and female dress uniforms in the US Military:

 

This is the super duper dress uniforms and outside of the medals and chevrons denoting rank there is not a HUGE difference.  I get people want (some at least) their female PC to have these crazy ball gowns or evening dresses but at the same time...  at least as a military leader it would make sense...  to me at least if the female "dress" uniform would look like the male one, at least closely.

That's nice. (I work on an air force base, I know what military uniforms look like thanks) I would rather be able to play how *I* want to play and make the character *I* want to make rather than being shuffled into some forced role for one part of the game. Why let us be whatever race, gender, and class we want, make our own decisions, form our own personality, wear the kind of armor we want, romance who we want and then for one segment of the game be like "I don't care if your character is a girly girl or a hardened survivor living off the land, you're going to wear a military dress uniform instead of something that expresses your personality." You can bet our companions wont be wearing baggy ugly uniforms. If they don't wear uniforms on a day to day basis, why make one up for the ONLY event where over the top opulence and femininity would be the norm? You'll also note that while this uniform looks similar to ones people have worn in real life, it looks nothing like what we've seen in dragon age and no one else is wearing it. If I'm going to stand out I want it to be because I'm fabulous and not because I'm weird. Also it's not like we joined some military organization, we STARTED a group to save the world. It should be our decision if we want to enforce a uniform on us or our people.

[SamanthaJ]

Pardon the interruption, but I had to share with you guys this.

 

This...this just blew my mind.  I was looking for something else, and well...

 

http://www.girlsplay.com/

 

http://www.boysplaygame.com/

 

 

Look at the differences.  If this is happening for kids, no wonder we're having a hard time getting fair and equal representation as full adults.   I found girlsplay the funniest/saddest, considering that's exactly that's the excuse for folks that use the "girls don't play real games" fling around. Ignoring the fact that the site is for little kids, naturally.  The categories are the most telling of all.     

 

Excuse me, I'm feeling a little melancholy right now, considering that when I grew up, video games weren't segregated by sodding gender.  I'm a little angry because I find that just sick and wrong.   I'm not foaming at the mouth, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little pissed off.

I just saw you posted these, and it is kind of annoying. Especially since there's a friggin Barbie Rock Princess on the boy site when you scroll down! Where are the car games on the girl site, hmm? When I was a kid I liked cars AND barbies. Also, correct me if everything my psychology professors have told me is wrong...but aren't girl children generally more likely to play games outside their gender box than boy children?

[ladyiolanthe]

I just saw you posted these, and it is kind of annoying. Especially since there's a friggin Barbie Rock Princess on the boy site when you scroll down! Where are the car games on the girl site, hmm? When I was a kid I liked cars AND barbies. Also, correct me if everything my psychology professors have told me is wrong...but aren't girl children generally more likely to play games outside their gender box than boy children?

 

I had Transformers and My Little Ponies growing up. Got hours of playtime out of them all.  And my FAVOURITE sandbox toy was a Tonka backhoe that had levers you could use to operate the shovel arm and the shovel itself. That thing kicked ass.

[Sanguinerin]

I really hope the female option for the ball is still beautiful to look at, and not just a suit copy of the male attire. Admittedly, I was playing a male Inquisitor first (I like Dorian and Iron Bull, so I don't have to play a female to get the romance option that I want this time around!), but I definitely still wanted to make a female Inquisitor and I was looking forward to the ball and whatever she'd be wearing.

 

We're in Orlais, we have to be fashionable, and we know it's not a ballgown, and supposedly we need something that can be seen with combat animations...

 

Maybe we have an outfit similar to Vivienne's clothing? She seemingly only wears high Orlesian fashions, and we know for a fact that combat animations exist considering she's in our party. (And other armors seem to have the tail-coats and such that her robes are sporting.)

 

I'd be fine with that. Her clothes have a certain elegance to them, and for lack of a better word, they're drape-y. All I want out of my female Inquisitor's attire is some grace and flow/fluidity. I imagine that can be achieved with something like Vivienne's outfit, if we're not getting a full-on ballgown. Please, not just a pantsuit, though.

[Tayah]

I had Transformers and My Little Ponies growing up. Got hours of playtime out of them all.  And my FAVOURITE sandbox toy was a Tonka backhoe that had levers you could use to operate the shovel arm and the shovel itself. That thing kicked ass.

I had transformers, lego (before the gender coding crap of today) and teenage mutant ninja turtles, matchbox cars were what I played with in sand. And I watched transformers, x-men and voltron cartoons on tv while my brother liked gummi bears, smurfs and my shows. When not playing I liked (and still do) baking... fun and delicious. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I had transformers, lego (before the gender coding crap of today) and teenage mutant ninja turtles, matchbox cars were what I played with in sand. And I watched transformers, x-men and voltron cartoons on tv while my brother liked gummi bears, smurfs and my shows. When not playing I liked (and still do) baking... fun and delicious. 

Sounds about right.  

 

One of the many things I think my parents did right was not push the idea that either of us had to have a certain kind of toy.  I was also into TMNT just as much as my brother, and had fun playing with his GI Joes.  I also owned Barbie's, the first generation of Cabbage Patch (still got it, actually) and MLP.  

 

Of course, there was also legos, and Double Dragon on the NES.  My folks didn't care if we played with each others toys or if I was playing a "boys" game with my brother, so long as we were getting along.

[Darth Krytie]

Pardon the interruption, but I had to share with you guys this.

 

This...this just blew my mind.  I was looking for something else, and well...

 

http://www.girlsplay.com/

 

http://www.boysplaygame.com/

 

 

Look at the differences.  If this is happening for kids, no wonder we're having a hard time getting fair and equal representation as full adults.   I found girlsplay the funniest/saddest, considering that's exactly that's the excuse for folks that use the "girls don't play real games" fling around. Ignoring the fact that the site is for little kids, naturally.  The categories are the most telling of all.     

 

Excuse me, I'm feeling a little melancholy right now, considering that when I grew up, video games weren't segregated by sodding gender.  I'm a little angry because I find that just sick and wrong.   I'm not foaming at the mouth, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little pissed off.

 

Well, that was the most depressing link I've clicked in a good long while. I just...ugh. If I gave my daughter that, she'd slaughter me in my sleep.

[Lieutenant Kurin]

Oh, I'm familiar with the MotA outfit.  I was asking if someone had a source for the claim that females will have a similar outfit in DA: I.  Did a dev say it?

 

I'm wondering if it will be the exact same outfit as the male clothing, the same way that it is in the picture above.  No extra effort for fem characters.

MotA's outfit was horrendous, male or female, triple that if you were coloured. I play brown male characters often (as at least then I get some representation in the game), and that thing practically broke my eyes. I had to bright it up to desaturate that... thing. As for the no dress thing, I sympathise. I like mages and I like to think a mage would wear overtly ornate robes to ball. No dress I bet will equal no robes. (Also, my femquisitors will have to go in pants...). I just hope that if we go in pants, no matter gender, it looks good.

 

I believe it was about combat animations being difficult to animate? I'm not 100% on this.

 

It's pretty sure those ladies in dresses won't be fighting.

 

This of course brings up why can't my PC go anywhere without being dragged in a fight.

Beware the rise of the action RPG. No, seriously, I'd love some non-combat missions once in a while. It gets tiring to fight non-stop. (Seriously Josie, you're better than this).

 

Oh lawd. Hopefully we'll be warned ahead of time and that's why the femquizzy opts not to wear a ball gown?

I hope so too. Maybe there's gonna be a mass poisoning, so that's why we show. Or something... I definitely don't want to be wearing something not even close to anyone else, and look like the odd one out (Remember MotA? I kept questioning why we weren't in one of those hunter vest numbers, it looked so much better on both genders). I'd love if we could be masked.

[aTigerslunch]

Wasteland 2, reason to bring this up is coming.    

 

The party consists of either 4 that a player can create, or pick some preset, or acquire filler in's which the NPCs that talk have a few that can join as well. It's about like Fallout 1 and 2 in some cases. 4 characters have limited creation design but can play male or female, made a squad of 4 females. One that is dressed kinda low, another dressed as an indian, one as a big heavy clothing, and another dressed in cargo pants with trenchcoat. I been finding new clothes to pick up and wear as I go along, so not set to keep same outfits as you started with. Yes, pants and skirts doesnt seem to care if its a boy or girl.  I didnt actually test that theory honestly, but going through the list didnt seem to be restrictive.

 

Only one problem I had so far is....   "you rangers need to stop circle jerking."  Uh.... yeah?!  what?!  Its minor to me, but didnt expect that to be said when no males in my squad.     Figured you ladies might like this one, if already havent tried it. It's not Dragon Age style, more in lines of Fallout 2 more specifically as far as NPC's I run into are.

[aTigerslunch]

Forgot to add, yes, while in the army, females wore pants or skirts. They was plain green. I think this is part of the reason I dont have an issue with that MoTA outfit Hawke wears, at least it was more colorful than green.    Sorry. It's why I havent said much in this conversation. Yeah, its a tad too colorful though. I would feel as just blaming Orlais for those ridiculous outfits for Hawke had to wear.