Since it was brought up in this thread a few pages ago, Colbert went over Ganergate and had Anita come on.
http://www.themarysu...olbert-segment/
I'm sad that DAO was pretty much the only game they gave an example of in the news snippets.
Oh.....F this sh*t....as if we don't have enough problem already...
I wish people would stop accusing devs being "lazy" for not including stuff they want in the game because "it's so easy to add X" or "just make a toggle button.
Yeah I do feel quite mean for saying that actually, and I doubt any one individual developer has been napping at their desk, but it's just a sentiment so ingrained into us from things like shared animations, recycled dungeons and instagram filter endings.
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Since it was brought up in this thread a few pages ago, Colbert went over Ganergate and had Anita come on.
http://www.themarysu...olbert-segment/
I'm sad that DAO was pretty much the only game they gave an example of in the news snippets.
I thought it was a pretty good segment overall, but yeah...DA:O doesn't deserve that.
There are loads of games out there that have real problem portraying females, and she chose DA? I bet she pick that part because the shock value of rape, never mind that part was more showing racism instead of sexism......*sigh*
I'm not even angry anymore, just....exasperated and tired. 
Does she had to make it IMPOSSIBLE to talk about feminism and female representation in media without being labeled as quacks or extremist?
Okay, so Ride to Hell Retribution, which features such "wonderful" things as sex right after you save the female NPC from rape, isn't an issue. Ubisoft? Oh, that's just a little misogyny, no big deal right? The Witcher, which featured sex cards in the first game and "lesbomancy" in the second? Nothing.
Dragon Age, one of the few settings where overall sexism is minimal (I'd say it doesn't exist, but there has been some issues in the story telling and the Chantry is pretty bad against men,) and where I don't feel depowered for playing a female character, is lambasted.
I will defend Anita's right to be a critic, but I do condemn her lack of research. I don't expect her to play all the games she covers, but come on! There is worse targets out there, and they aren't from obscure companies either.
And this is why, while I hate the way she's been treated and while I do think she has the right to be a critic, I can't take too much of what she says to heart. I've heard a lot of the same arguments as she makes, only towards games that probably deserve it so much more. 
I'm not trying to be a blind DA fangirl or anything. I'm well aware that there is a few areas that have some issues in that regard as far as story and presentation. I won't claim nor pretend otherwise. However, her level of absurdity as well as the tunnel vision she's displaying in this case is astonishing.
Blah. I think I'm good about talking about Anita for awhile. Folks that go to the extreme without doing their full lot of research give me a headache. 
Oh boy, it's HER fault?There are loads of games out there that have real problem portraying females, and she chose DA? I bet she pick that part because the shock value of rape, never mind that part was more showing racism instead of sexism......*sigh*
I'm not even angry anymore, just....exasperated and tired.
There are loads of games out there that have real problem portraying females, and she chose DA? I bet she pick that part because the shock value of rape, never mind that part was more showing racism instead of sexism......*sigh*
I'm not even angry anymore, just....exasperated and tired.
I think the worst you could say is a number of people who would very much like not to talk about it have found in her a convenient target and like to wander round implying the feminist hive mind is all like that and if you don't like her views well then these feminists will all be out to get you too. But you know what, you're not part of a hive mind yourself, and you don't need to gobble up that disingenuous rhetoric.
Oh boy, it's HER fault?
JC, really? FTS. She has an opinion, you may or may not agree with her opinion, but it's just that, an opinion.
I've had enough of this crap. I'm going to bed.
Yeah, sorry about that. I know it's not entirely her fault.
The thing is, I actually agree with a lot of her criticism/opinion.
I 'm just getting tired of every time I tried to bring this kind of topic up in other places, people just scoff me for being a "feminazi like that Anita woman" or other worse thing.
I apologize if I offend anyone.
No the thing is she has these nuggets of truth they are just hidden in these mountans of lies, half truths, misinformation, double standards, lack of reserch and just plain crazytalk. to get to them.
the problem most people have is that she tends to bate the bear then cry when she gets called out for it.
and woebetide if you disagree with 100% then you arn't a real woman apparently.
honestly can we just talk about the f***ing game already and not Anita and her 99% of Bull that a 10 minet google serch can debunk?
Are we talking about Anita again I thought it passed already. And how is it possible to accuse game who mostly caters to women to be against women? 
In city elf origin rape was used as story plot, and did she mentioned we have option to kill all rapist oh yes details don't mater, silly me.
And I doubt she knows game Alpha protocol, but of course it don't mater because if man is tied to table and raped it is not rape. 
Well in her defence she let me go.
Soo...how about that female Inquisitor? I think we've probably spent enough time talking about the FF, Anita and all and things related to her. It's a very heated subject and nothing personal, but I'm sick of talking about her. I'm not trying to be rude, but it is bringing down the mood of the thread.
Anyhow, this is one of the ideas I had for the next female Inquisitor to be showcased. The hair would have to be shorter, of course, but I really like the look of this. Plus, I can actually see my dwarf wearing this armor. Huldra, I think you might like this:
I just figure the animation/cinematic team could add a weapon of their choice (bow would be welcome,) and that would be nice to see. Heck, judging by the style of the gloves, it could be that the artist had an archer in mind. Also, as has been pointed out, I think that would be worth more than a "blink-and-you-miss-it" appearance from our lady Inquisitor.
Please don't mistake me, as I still support the Qunari option. We have seen a lot of her though, and I'd like them to show off another race. Plus, dwarves need love too!
I'm so stereotypical, but I'm actually looking so forward to playing my human rogue Eavan. I'm still going to love my qunari Acantha, but it's just not the same as playing an adorable, flirty thief.
I will still use qunari as my first playthrough though, mostly to help with BioWare's telemetry.
EX'FOOOOOKIN'ACTLY.
Well it looks like they are dooing reversable posters and stuff.
I'll go from my human mage. She'll probably look like the lady in my avatar. 
I'll base her off Luna. She'll seem all sane on the surface but no no noooooo.
I'm so stereotypical, but I'm actually looking so forward to playing my human rogue Eavan. I'm still going to love my qunari Acantha, but it's just not the same as playing an adorable, flirty thief.
I will still use qunari as my first playthrough though, mostly to help with BioWare's telemetry.
And that's part of the reason why I'm playing a dwarf. I'm betting a lot of folks will be trying out Qunari, if for no other reason than it's something new. The lady Qunari looks interesting, and I'm torn between making her a mage or saving that for my lesbian elf.
Still, I want to give some love to the dwarves. It makes me sad that, in 15 years of BioWare's history, there has been a grand total of one female dwarf companion. I'm going by games that have had some incarnation of the race, whether in Thedas or in D&D. Sigrun's been largely forgotten about by the DA team it seems, due to her being an expansion-only character. A lot of my dwarf's characterization is going to be based off of her, and it's a shame that she's been so side-lined.
Dwarves still don't have an available romance of for their own race, so I figure my vote will help. They are my favorite DA race. 
May go Dwarf my self.
you know what they say 'Once you go short.. you dont go back." they being people who cant rhime.
Hmm, my first Female Inquisitor will most likely be a Qunari.
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GOD, seeing that thing just makes me want to go off and start bashing something into a wall.
On GamerGate/Anita/all that stuff all I have to say is this... Anita is nothing more than a damn attention troll at this point. Any decent ideas she has gets just buried under all the stupid stuff she does to try and get attention to her arguments.
And that's part of the reason why I'm playing a dwarf. I'm betting a lot of folks will be trying out Qunari, if for no other reason than it's something new. The lady Qunari looks interesting, and I'm torn between making her a mage or saving that for my lesbian elf.
Still, I want to give some love to the dwarves. It makes me sad that, in 15 years of BioWare's history, there has been a grand total of one female dwarf companion. I'm going by games that have had some incarnation of the race, whether in Thedas or in D&D. Sigrun's been largely forgotten about by the DA team it seems, due to her being an expansion-only character. A lot of my dwarf's characterization is going to be based off of her, and it's a shame that she's been so side-lined.
Dwarves still don't have an available romance of for their own race, so I figure my vote will help. They are my favorite DA race.
I've always played a rogue except for one warrior who I ended up disliking. But I'm playing my first ever DA:O mage right now, waiting on Inquisition to come out.
So now I'm thinking well maybe I should leave all the rogueish content to Eavan, so that it's all fresh, and play as a qunari mage.
Also, I loved Sigrun, and Felsi, and Dagna. But I could never play a dwarf because the less time spent in the deep roads, the better.
I really don't understand the ongoing flogging of Anita Sarkeesian and her work.
I've watched her videos, and my interpretation of all of them is that she is pointing out the existence (and overuse) of tropes that can be problematic. I don't believe she has ever indicated or even implied that there is never a legitimate reason to use any of these tropes - but that seems to be one of the many (mis)interpretations of her work out there.
IIRC, the DAO clip was used as an example of cruel brutality toward women - which it is. As someone else suggested, racism toward elves is also inherent in that particular scene, but that does not change the fact that the scene features sexual violence against women. As near as I can tell, that is the only thing she was trying to illustrate with it.
Using a snippet or clip from a work as an example is not generally intended to be a thorough analysis of that work in its original context.
That there are more egregious examples she could have used does not invalidate the suitability of the clips she did choose. That she has perhaps played hundreds of games does not mean she is intimately familiar with every game ever made.
I saw someone once accuse her of lying about whether she is a gamer - saying one thing and then another. I can honestly say that if I were asked whether I am a gamer, the answer would depend on who is asking and the context. I have spent thousands of hours playing various games - but I know full well that my gaming experiences would not meet some people's standards or definition of "gamer".
I've watched a few minutes of some of the youtube responses to her videos, and have seen little more than strawmen. Videos with words like "debunked", "proof", etc. in the titles that do nothing but set up strawmen and then proceed to disprove things she never said in the first place - and/or assassinate her character.
In any case, DG once responded to a question about her work here: http://dgaider.tumbl...-writing-tropes
And recently responded to John Epler's twitter exchanges with someone else here: http://dgaider.tumbl...u-either-havent
In any case, she has called attention to some of the problems in the way women are treated in the gaming world - and I am glad of it.
^ See my previous statement about her.
GOD, seeing that thing just makes me want to go off and start bashing something into a wall.
On GamerGate/Anita/all that stuff all I have to say is this... Anita is nothing more than a damn attention troll at this point. Any decent ideas she has gets just buried under all the stupid stuff she does to try and get attention to her arguments.
Her and afew others who shall not be named.
Ok enougth about She,he,it that shall not be named and more about how badass our girls are gona be.
Starting to wish Anita was never brought into this thread. All the back and forth makes my skin crawl.
Back to DA:I please, before we get locked?
Starting to wish Anita was never brought into this thread. All the back and forth makes my skin crawl.
Back to DA:I please, before we get locked?
Already on it. 
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