The only reason I even knew DA2 could play as a female and was customizable was because I went on a date with a guy who worked at BioWare (sadly he was a stage 5 clinger and it didn't work out) and we got to talking about DA2.
Until that point I was sure that I could only play as a set male character.
So you never thought to google the game?
as i have said there are a few games whit female only create a charecter but they are Japanese. Rumble Roses for one the Queensblade game and a few others. there are a few indie games to.
So you never thought to google the game?
Can we keep the condescending tone to a minimum? I had DA:O, and the art style of DA 2 really didn't appeal to me, so I didn't bother.
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SO you lot planing on playing females?
Can we keep the condescending tone to a minimum? I had DA:O, and the art style of DA 2 really didn't appeal to me, so I didn't bother.
Fine, no condescension. I am curious: do you think they've advertised the female inquisitor enough this time around, and made it clear you can play as either gender? Because since the Mass Effect days, I feel they've improved on this.
Fine, no condescension. I am curious: do you think they've advertised the female inquisitor enough this time around, and made it clear you can play as either gender? Because since the Mass Effect days, I feel they've improved on this.
Not the person you're answering to, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway.
IMO, they've certainly improved - but the problem is that their main marketing material is male-only. Most non-fans who do not go their way to look for the extra content (demos, YouTube features etc.) only see the primary ads, which only use male protagonists, so coming to the conclusion that DA is just one more Grisly Dude DarkGrim Fantasy RPG isn't all that hard based on the primary material alone, just as it's easy to dismiss ME series as just another Space Marine Shooter based on the trailers. And if my general impression of the marketing material is "yawn, another one of those", I won't be doing the extra work and googling it / looking for other trailers and so on. The grapevine can later tell me otherwise and convince me to buy the game later, but only if my friends are into similar games that I am.
So the BW marketing is keeping their existing female fans happy (no objections there) but it's not actively courting new female players who might be interested in playing a fantasy RPG with a female protagonist.
Alpha Protocol, South Park, Brink (Brink actually released a statement saying they were not doing female characters because they wanted to focus on more for the male character), Deus Ex, Saints Row 1.
So they are out there.
As a thought experiment, has there been games that only have women that have customization?
After wracking my brain, I had to laugh when the one game I could come up with was Poupee Girl, a Japanese paper doll game where you use the game currency (earned through social network things like uploading photos and posting comments) to buy clothes for your doll. I remember lots of people lamenting that they couldn't make a male avatar for it. So basically, guys only get left out of things that are explicitly over-the-top "girly."
Fine, no condescension. I am curious: do you think they've advertised the female inquisitor enough this time around, and made it clear you can play as either gender? Because since the Mass Effect days, I feel they've improved on this.
They have improved on this, there is absolutely no argument there. The treatment of both Femshep and Lady Hawke was downright shameful, whereas the Lady Inquisitor has been clearly visible in many of the promo posters and has appeared in a whole bunch of demos. And the box cover is deliberately neutral, which is amazing. That they even made a point of showing her at all, and not at the very last minute, is a huge step forward that I absolutely appreciate the devs for.
That said, I do still think they could do more. The back of the box (at least the PS4 one I looked at in my local store) shows only the male Inquisitor--so while the front may be neutral, dude on the back would lead one to believe that the person on the front is a dude. The one and only trailer featuring her barely shows her at all. And I still see the male promo poster popping up in ads on websites.
To be honest, I've been waiting for one perfect trailer to show to friends as a huge "THIS is why you should play this game!" But while there have been many trailers I loved, the fact that they all had a male Inquisitor made me less excited to show them off. And a demo packs a little less punch when you're trying to introduce somebody new to a franchise, so... eh.
As a thought experiment, has there been games that only have women that have customization?
This may not exactly be the answer you're looking for, but last year's Tomb Raider did feature a slight touch of customization (Lara's outfit and abilities).
Fine, no condescension. I am curious: do you think they've advertised the female inquisitor enough this time around, and made it clear you can play as either gender? Because since the Mass Effect days, I feel they've improved on this.
Honestly, I haven't seen many advertisements. All my knowledge about the game comes from this forum and attending the Edmonton Expo.
After wracking my brain, I had to laugh when the one game I could come up with was Poupee Girl, a Japanese paper doll game where you use the game currency (earned through social network things like uploading photos and posting comments) to buy clothes for your doll. I remember lots of people lamenting that they couldn't make a male avatar for it. So basically, guys only get left out of things that are explicitly over-the-top "girly."
They have improved on this, there is absolutely no argument there. The treatment of both Femshep and Lady Hawke was downright shameful, whereas the Lady Inquisitor has been clearly visible in many of the promo posters and has appeared in a whole bunch of demos. And the box cover is deliberately neutral, which is amazing. That they even made a point of showing her at all, and not at the very last minute, is a huge step forward that I absolutely appreciate the devs for.
That said, I do still think they could do more. The back of the box (at least the PS4 one I looked at in my local store) shows only the male Inquisitor--so while the front may be neutral, dude on the back would lead one to believe that the person on the front is a dude. The one and only trailer featuring her barely shows her at all. And I still see the male promo poster popping up in ads on websites.
To be honest, I've been waiting for one perfect trailer to show to friends as a huge "THIS is why you should play this game!" But while there have been many trailers I loved, the fact that they all had a male Inquisitor made me less excited to show them off. And a demo packs a little less punch when you're trying to introduce somebody new to a franchise, so... eh.
The step forward is that the FemQuisitor was featured far more frequently in the gameplay videos portion of the marketing blitz - but not the marketing material itself, i.e., the general outreach. So in that regard I think that the approach has been a bit more in the spirit of catering to the audience that knows and/or is more familiar with Bioware than with the general marketing push.
But, in a sense, this is exactly what the thread asked for in terms of visibility. We saw a lot more of the FemQuisitor - IMO, more than we've seen of the MaleQuisitor - in terms of the actual presentation of the game.
This may not exactly be the answer you're looking for, but last year's Tomb Raider did feature a slight touch of customization (Lara's outfit and abilities).
I think he means games with a character creator.
So you never thought to google the game?
If someone sees an ad that doesn't appeal to them (in this case because they don't think they can play as a female), why would they bother looking deeper into it?
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SO you lot planing on playing females?
I have 2 female playthroughs planned out. If I really like Cassandra I may make a male to woo her.
>Creates thread complaining about the supposed lack of female quizzies
>Promo material is predominantly female quizzie
>Creates thread complaining about the supposed lack of female quizzies
>Promo material is predominantly female quizzie
You have to remember, this thread is over 350 pages, it's been many months since it was created.
You have to remember, this thread is over 350 pages, it's been many months since it was created.
I know, but what did he expect? It's BioWare we're talking about.
As a thought experiment, has there been games that only have women that have customization?
ive answered this a few times.
mostly Japanese titals alyhough there are a few dodgy MMOS.
Rumble Roses1&2 and Queens blade are 2 that come to mind there is a MMO that is exclusively female but its.. yeah its japanese soooo you take a guess.. yeah big boobs.and paistys. i can not recall the tital.
there are a few DS games but i cant recall titals whith them being japanese names.
I know, but what did he expect? It's BioWare we're talking about.
Please count how many times Lady Hawke has appeared in the promotional material.
Now keep in mind that at the time this thread was created, the female Inquisitor had not yet been seen once.
Please count how many times Lady Hawke has appeared in the promotional material.
Now keep in mind that at the time this thread was created, the female Inquisitor had not yet been seen once.
Also: the number of official trailers the female Inquisitor has been featured in is still one big round zero. I also haven't seen fem!Quisitor in any other official ads, print or digital.
I appreciate the fact that fem!Quisitors of multiple different races have featured in demos and the YouTube channel videos, but having an official fem!Quisitor trailer / ad / anyting, really, would be even better.
Not to mention dudequisitor was featured in many gameplay walkthroughs too. Idk why people keep ignoring this fact.
Not to mention dudequisitor was featured in many gameplay walkthroughs too. Idk why people keep ignoring this fact.
I'm actually okay with ignoring this fact. The way they split the gameplay videos was perfect, in my opinion. The only reason they ever come up at all is because people keep insisting the Femquisitor was predominately featured in the trailers. If the actual trailers used the same distrobution as the gameplay videos, I actually think everyone would be fine with it.
I do get your point, though, and it is well taken. I just don't want someone saying, "But the Malequisitor was used in the gameplay videos too" to be taken as, "I ONLY want the Femquisitor to be used in marketing." Because it will.
No one says they shouldn't show the dudequisitor and only the inquisitrix in trailers. I'm a supporter of both or don't show the inquisitor at all.
They're already showing both male and female in gameplays already. But of course the dude would have the "honors" to have an awesome trailer and or a CGI if it happens.
No one says they shouldn't show the dudequisitor and only the inquisitrix in trailers. I'm a supporter of both or don't show the inquisitor at all.
They're already showing both male and female in gameplays already. But of course the dude would have the "honors" to have an awesome trailer and or a CGI if it happens.
I'm not saying you are. Just that it will be taken that way.
As an aside, that's the first time I've seen the word "Inquisitrix", and it is fantastic.
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