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[Stelae]

Oh god I know this is going to sound bad buuuuut that kind of immediately made me think of Inquisition??   To be fair it's unclear whether the Inquisitor has amnesia or whether he/she knows precisely what's happened with the veil tear but just chooses not to reveal it to Cassandra... Meeeeeh ya know.

Bleargh.

 

Hopefully, even if they have a bit of short-term memory loss from proximity to a thumping great explosion, it won't be the kind of tabula rasa they use as an excuse to tell you you're a great warrior, only you can't remember how to swing a sword just now.  I prefer the approach of taking an ordinary person, such as the Inquisitor may well be, and having them adapt to extraordinary circumstances.  It worked in the other two Dragon Ages ...

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

So, I've seen that one drawing of the female inquisitor (the one with the guy and the gal), but is that official art?  If it isn't, is there any official art of a female inquisitor other than those concept art things (the ones where it's not immediately clear who the inquisitor is?

[Stelae]

So, I've seen that one drawing of the female inquisitor (the one with the guy and the gal), but is that official art?  If it isn't, is there any official art of a female inquisitor other than those concept art things (the ones where it's not immediately clear who the inquisitor is?

If you mean the order/chaos thing, weren't they both girls?  Or have I missed something?  (I mean, OK, the Order Inquisitor could have been either gender ... I default to female ... )

[Allan Schumacher]

So, I've seen that one drawing of the female inquisitor (the one with the guy and the gal), but is that official art?  If it isn't, is there any official art of a female inquisitor other than those concept art things (the ones where it's not immediately clear who the inquisitor is?

 

 

It's official art.  I've seen the concept art piece internally (as in literally hanging on the wall).

[Mes]

It's official art.  I've seen the concept art piece internally (as in literally hanging on the wall).

 

I want to work in your office.

[Tayah]

Sure. The 2 to 1 ratio of men is to hook line and sinker all the horny womynz...

The horny straight or bi womynz perhaps yes, it does nothing for the lesbians... just saying. 

 

Although after ME3 my straight sisters deserve options so yeah... 'bout time they got them. 

[Tayah]

It's official art.  I've seen the concept art piece internally (as in literally hanging on the wall).

Hey does that mean there are other pieces of fem inquisitor art on your office walls and can we see them if so... pretty please? 

 

I want to work in your office.

Me too. 

[Bugsie]

Okay, so I had a couple hours to spare this Sunday afternoon and decided to see how easy it would be to make a trailer.

 

I'm pretty ignorant of most video packages.  I'm also not sure if it breaches any particular licences and so if I get asked to take it down, that's okay, I had fun making it and supporting the idea of seeing the lady inquisitor.

 

The point is, if I can do it in a couple of hours whilst my toddler naps, imagine what Bioware could do!!!

 

Dragon Age Inquisition female inquisitor trailer

 

AND ROFL - I just noticed I spelt inquisition wrong in one of the last slides - DOH!

 

   

 

And now corrected - I hope I don't find any more!

[JCFR]

Yes.  All very fascinating.  Almost none of it made it to the page in the first act of the game, or at least as much as I got through.  I shouldn't have to read a bunch of books to get some empathy with a walking bunch of misogynist cliches.  Yes, we all get it, he's James Bond, only, like, totally medieval.  And the world is all GrimDark, in a kill-the-kitten-or-save-the-village way.   

 

You are carted unconscious into a castle.  You have amnesia.  That was old in the days of text adventures, for Christ's sake.  Some improbable jiggle physics happens.  Then it's fetchquest after fetchquest and a bunch of simplistic binary choices with a combat system that may as well be random button mashing for all the difference it makes.  Oh yay. 

 

A matter of taste.

I liked TW1 - not too hard yet not too simple - with it's richness of detail. It made me feel like an outcast in a medieval society and really pulled me into the whole atmosphere. As for the amnesia, i guess the developers went for that solution  because of the complex backgroundstory of the books.  Like turning a lettered page into a blank one and filling it up slowly, so that even those who didn't read the books could follow the story. and after i played through ieven startedreading those and greatly enjoyed it. 

And be fair: these fetch- and killquest are in every RPG. Here thye're bound into a storyand not like some MMOs where i go into a town, pick 30 and run of... and at some points in the middle of the game, those choices effect later quests.

 

 

Its not that its a male/female, I have the same issues for male or female. When its a full character fleshed out, I dont feel I can get into their shoes that much. I prefer them to be less fleshed out and allow me to fill it in myself. Which is why I prefer RPGs.
 

Hmm, ok... strange to me, but ok.

I'm more the opposite. These blank, less fleshed out charakters... well they often feel like a foreign object. It's hard to explain, why they don't fit in  - in my regards.

i guess it's easier for my to empathise with the main-charakter, if he/she has a background and some personality.

TES like Skyrim... well... i like leveling up my charakter and go exploring but... in the end it feels cheap and stupid if i end up being head of the dark brotherhood, archmage,  head of the fighter guild, chosen of this daedric and that and so on and so on.... and still most Npc act as if i wasn't there or just say some oneliner like "oh, arent you...", "did you hear about" or "isn't that the sword of incontinence". somehow the world starts feeling sterile and i start feeling misplaced.

Oh, and don't get me started on MMOs...This "you are the chosen saver of the world... well you and 4.000.000 other..." can't break immersion more.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Nice that this thread hasn't been derailed & locked like what usually happens when asking for female representation. Anyway, i pretty much fear that the marketing will still be similar to DA2 & the ME series, the fact that there hasn't been any in game footage of the female inquisitior yet & that the inquisitior has repeatedly been described with "he/him" makes me think she'll get token references at best & be completely ignored again at worst.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nice that this thread hasn't been derailed & locked like what usually happens when asking for female representation. Anyway, i pretty much fear that the marketing will still be similar to DA2 & the ME series, the fact that there hasn't been any in game footage of the female inquisitior yet & that the inquisitior has repeatedly been described with "he/him" makes me think she'll get token references at best & be completely ignored again at worst.

ME3 had two official trailers with femshep in it. 

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

ME3 had two official trailers with femshep in it.

I remember, they were made mostly just to shut femshep fans up who kept complaining about her being ignored for 2 games rather then a real desire to show femshep off though.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I remember, they were made mostly just to shut femshep fans up who kept complaining about her being ignored for 2 games rather then a real desire to show femshep off though.

I never saw it that way. If only one trailer, then maybe, but why the second one then? 

[WildOrchid]

I remember, they were made mostly just to shut femshep fans up who kept complaining about her being ignored for 2 games rather then a real desire to show femshep off though.

 

Pretty much and that sucks big time. If there weren't fans who 'complained', they would possibly never put a trailer in first place.

Makes me sad.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I never saw it that way. If only one trailer, then maybe, but why the second one then?

To get some goodwill from female players & femshep fans maybe? im not certain about that but i believe if fans hadn't been vocal about it then femshep wouldn't have gotten any publicity again, is just my opinion though.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To get some goodwill from female players & femshep fans maybe? im not certain about that but i believe if fans hadn't been vocal about it then femshep wouldn't have gotten any publicity again, is just my opinion though.

You probably shouldn't make it sound like a fact then. Just saying...

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

You probably shouldn't make it sound like a fact then. Just saying...

I wasn't calling it a fact but when a game series pretends the female protagonist doesn't exist for 2 games then suddenly makes a couple of trailers featuring her in the last game after fan complaints it would seem obvious imo.

[Chibi Elemental]

they saw and need and filled it, the only way we are going to change how companies do things it to express interest, also I apreciated the two trailers for femshep I would not mind if we got one or two for femquisitor also.

[Lady Nuggins]

I remember, they were made mostly just to shut femshep fans up who kept complaining about her being ignored for 2 games rather then a real desire to show femshep off though.

 

Yeah, waiting until the very last game of a trilogy to even acknowledge that Femshep exists is just too little, too late.  Someone earlier in this thread also said that those Femshep trailers came out very late in the marketing campaign, which also gives the impression that she was an afterthought.  Plus they staged a beauty contest for her.  So no, I don't want the Inquisition to be anything like the ME3 campaign.  I don't want a year's worth of Inquisidude in our faces followed by one token video of Femquisitor.  If they must show Inquisidude more often to satisfy some desperate need to show the boys that they can play as boys, then fine.  But don't just slap her in there at the end long after the major media campaign has already cemented the male version in everyone's minds.

[Chibi Elemental]

I know this is off topic but ladynuggins your plushy nug reminds me of a Ms. Saturn from earth bound XD

[Felya87]

Still don't understand why a feature that give much more value to a game instead of being hyped in every corner (not only the chance of a female character, but of races too) have to be begged by the fan to be rapresented.

 

DAI have been advised almost as a new the witcher/gothic/risen clone, when what make it different and better is the chance to create your own character. DAI can't be the witcher. In certain aspect cannot be better, but in others is way better.

 

Bioware should work on those. Personalization of the PC is one of the feature that are lacking in most of the AAA games. Why not use this as an advantage? why not hype what can make DAI shine in the sea of games with the usual human dude as protagonist?

 

all the images of the landscapes are great and beautiful, but a lot of games already do the same, and have a even bigger world to explore. why not let us see concept or images of elves, qunari (I'm still whaiting to see a female qunari) dwarfes and so on?

 

Bioware is famous for the great characters, the companions, and the tailoring of the PC on the player's taste. Why not use these strenght? I'm genuinely curious.

Oh, I know a few artwork and images have been released (nothing in game, or in the official site, thought) and is still better than the NOTHING of the first two ME. But isn't it a little...well...too little? people who don't visit the facebook pages, and just look at the official site don't see a word about being able to choose sex and race of the PC. and it should be the first place where people look for informations.

[WildOrchid]

Yeah, waiting until the very last game of a trilogy to even acknowledge that Femshep exists is just too little, too late.  Someone earlier in this thread also said that those Femshep trailers came out very late in the marketing campaign, which also gives the impression that she was an afterthought.  Plus they staged a beauty contest for her.  So no, I don't want the Inquisition to be anything like the ME3 campaign.  I don't want a year's worth of Inquisidude in our faces followed by one token video of Femquisitor.  If they must show Inquisidude more often to satisfy some desperate need to show the boys that they can play as boys, then fine.  But don't just slap her in there at the end long after the major media campaign has already cemented the male version in everyone's minds.

 

I don't what this nonsense in ME4 either.

But i'm not getting my hopes up, they'll treat the new ME female protagonist as they treated Shepard. As an 'option' and not the main character, like the dude one. I'd love to be wrong but i will still keep that opinion unless i see a miracle.

 

DA is different team though so i have more faith in them than in ME.

[Lady Nuggins]

I know this is off topic but ladynuggins your plushy nug reminds me of a Ms. Saturn from earth bound XD

 

Hehe!  I've never played Earthbound, but I looked it up and I kind of see it.

 

 

DA is different team though so i have more faith in them than in ME.

 

I do, too.  But I don't know how marketing works and who has control over it.  Does the dev team have any input at all for the marketing campaign?  Does Bioware have one marketing team who handles all of their games?  

[Chibi Elemental]

each company is different, and I cannot speak for bioware, I just hope the marketing department notice that more females play this sort of game than most others and are a growing part of the population of gamers.

[Altima Darkspells]

Still don't understand why a feature that give much more value to a game instead of being hyped in every corner (not only the chance of a female character, but of races too) have to be begged by the fan to be rapresented.
 
DAI have been advised almost as a new the witcher/gothic/risen clone, when what make it different and better is the chance to create your own character. DAI can't be the witcher. In certain aspect cannot be better, but in others is way better.
 
Bioware should work on those. Personalization of the PC is one of the feature that are lacking in most of the AAA games. Why not use this as an advantage? why not hype what can make DAI shine in the sea of games with the usual human dude as protagonist?
 
all the images of the landscapes are great and beautiful, but a lot of games already do the same, and have a even bigger world to explore. why not let us see concept or images of elves, qunari (I'm still whaiting to see a female qunari) dwarfes and so on?
 
Bioware is famous for the great characters, the companions, and the tailoring of the PC on the player's taste. Why not use these strenght? I'm genuinely curious.
Oh, I know a few artwork and images have been released (nothing in game, or in the official site, thought) and is still better than the NOTHING of the firt two ME. But isn't it a little...well...too little? people who don't visit the facebook pages, and just look at the official site don't see a word about being able to choose sex and race of the PC. and it should be the first place where people look for informations.

All great points, except, presumably, DAI's marketing is in the hands of EA's enormous marketing team. I imagine we'll get bombarded with media the closer we get to launch. EA's marketing blitz, basically, made to overwhelm people who are indecisive and on the fence. Too bad this tends to backfire spectacularly at times--BF4 allegedly had a marketing budget of a hundred million dollars.

And I'm sure we all remember...well, this: For those of you seeing that for the first time, that is really a trailer released for DAO. It's not a fan creation.

And don't forget that EA likes to blame insane little things on a game performing poorly, such as females being prominent on boxart.