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[Lady Nuggins]

According to my brother Hunger Games is not a "chick flick" and is a movie I'd like though I haven't seen it yet precisely because it doesn't stick to traditional roles and the female heroine outsmarts a lot of people to help her family and consequently change her society or so my brother says. 

 

Actually, this is another example of marketing making assumptions about what women like and are interested in watching.

 

What Hunger Games is about = Katniss fighting for her life and fighting against a corrupt regime while struggling not to lose sight of what is morally right and what kind of person she wants to be.

 

What advertising for the films tells us Hunger Games is about = Katniss is caught in a love triangle between two hot boys.  Who will she pick?!

[Darth Krytie]

Actually, this is another example of marketing making assumptions about what women like and are interested in watching.

 

What Hunger Games is about = Katniss fighting for her life and fighting against a corrupt regime while struggling not to lose sight of what is morally right and what kind of person she wants to be.

 

What advertising for the films tells us Hunger Games is about = Katniss is caught in a love triangle between two hot boys.  Who will she pick?!

 

I could rant for like ten years about that. Or longer.

[WildOrchid]

What Hunger Games is about = Katniss fighting for her life and fighting against a corrupt regime while struggling not to lose sight of what is morally right and what kind of person she wants to be.

 

What advertising for the films tells us Hunger Games is about = Katniss is caught in a love triangle between two hot boys.  Who will she pick?!

 

 

This is what happens with female protagonists. Ugh. Stupid advertisers think that all women want is love in movies, who the f00k cares about who she's hooking up with.

Katniss is a survivor, a warrior. Show us her badassery and not who she beds.

[naddaya]

This is what happens with female protagonists. Ugh. Stupid advertisers think that all women want is love in movies, who the f00k cares about who she's hooking up with.

Katniss is a survivor, a warrior. Show us her badassery and not who she beds.

 

Or at least show us both

[9TailsFox]

This is what happens with female protagonists. Ugh. Stupid advertisers think that all women want is love in movies, who the f00k cares about who she's hooking up with.

Katniss is a survivor, a warrior. Show us her badassery and not who she beds.

But this is what majority wants. So you give them it, to get most profit. Do I need to tell you ho popular twilight is. It's made for women, all jokes about how girlfriend drag boyfriend to movie theatre.

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[Lady Nuggins]

But this is what majority wants. So you give them it, to get most profit. Do I need to tell you ho popular twilight is. It's made for women, all jokes about how girlfriend drag boyfriend to movie theatre.

 

The Hunger Games books were not marketed as love stories, and they were hugely popular.  That's why the films were made at all.  

 

Yes, Twilight is all about romance, and that struck a chord with many teenage girls and women.  But that does not mean that is what girls and women want all the time.  Once again, it's the circular logic of marketing: the only stories marketed specifically to women are romances, so women consume romance, and then that is seen as evidence that the only thing that women want is romance.

[WildOrchid]

Or at least show us both

 

Yeah, let's see straight people being in love as usual.

[XMissWooX]

But this is what majority wants.

How would anyone know what the majority wants when they never bothered to ask?

[In Exile]

The Hunger Games books were not marketed as love stories, and they were hugely popular.  That's why the films were made at all.  

 

Yes, Twilight is all about romance, and that struck a chord with many teenage girls and women.  But that does not mean that is what girls and women want all the time.  Once again, it's the circular logic of marketing: the only stories marketed specifically to women are romances, so women consume romance, and then that is seen as evidence that the only thing that women want is romance.

 

From what I've seen in Honest Trailers, I wouldn't describe Twilight as being about romance. Whatever that thing the movie portrays is, it gets really, really close to an abusive relationship form my POV. 

[Lady Nuggins]

From what I've seen in Honest Trailers, I wouldn't describe Twilight as being about romance. Whatever that thing the movie portrays is, it gets really, really close to an abusive relationship form my POV. 

 

Oh no, I agree with that.  But the author and fans of the series perceive it as romance and it's advertised as such.  Whether it's actually good or healthy is a totally different matter.

[9TailsFox]

How would anyone know what the majority wants when they never bothered to ask?

Top 25 Women's Favorite Movies

[Allan Schumacher]

 

Top 25 Women's Favorite Movies

 

 

That's just a list some person made, as far as I can tell.  I could make one, title it the same, and put Schwarzenegger movies in it.

 

The first comment:

 

"While ill admit I enjoy most of these movies, they wouldn't make my top 25 at all. There all romances for the most part. Where's the violence and the intrigue? The reality?"

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Are people seriously talking about Twilight? it isn't romantic at all imo, is more creepy to me as to why a 200+ year old vampire is hanging around a highschool & getting together with a 17 year old girl

[Nefla]

Top 25 Women's Favorite Movies

Who compiled this list? Who voted on it? It seems more like a "top 25 movies that only women might potentially watch" movies that appeal to everyone aren't listed at all. Who out there would rather watch "you've got mail" than "The Avengers?"

[Hanako Ikezawa]

But this is what majority wants. So you give them it, to get most profit. Do I need to tell you ho popular twilight is. It's made for women, all jokes about how girlfriend drag boyfriend to movie theatre.

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[9TailsFox]

Are people seriously talking about Twilight? it isn't romantic at all imo, is more creepy to me as to why a 200+ year old vampire is hanging around a highschool & getting together with a 17 year old girl

I see you don't watch Anime. You don't know what creepy is.   And Twilight mostly watched by teen girls. For some reason girls like Justin Bieber.

Edit. P.S But twilight last battle was nice I guess.

[In Exile]

Oh no, I agree with that.  But the author and fans of the series perceive it as romance and it's advertised as such.  Whether it's actually good or healthy is a totally different matter.

 

That's true, but I will still try my best to fight against that classification. 

[9TailsFox]

Who compiled this list? Who voted on it? It seems more like a "top 25 movies that only women might potentially watch" movies that appeal to everyone aren't listed at all. Who out there would rather watch "you've got mail" than "The Avengers?"

I think imdb members. But I can be wrong. Who out there would rather watch "you've got mail" than "The Avengers?" My mom. 

[Allan Schumacher]

I think imdb members. But I can be wrong. Who out there would rather watch "you've got mail" than "The Avengers?" My mom. 

 

Not my Mom (we actually just watched the Avengers).  (It's not a voted list... it's literally someone posting what they think)

 

Here's part of the reality: people are socially influenced to like particular things (and to not like other things).  Ever see a woman get made fun of because they liked video games?  I have.  By boys and girls.  Do you think that that will affect what they do and do not like going forward?  I sure do.

 

A male nurse?  LOLOLOL.  Where I grew up people casually used the term "gay" to mean "stupid."  I think it's incorrect to assume that that doesn't help reinforce one's perception of the word, and all that it entails.

 

 

When we say "Women are the ones that like twilight" we're making social statements that girls are the ones supposed to like Twilight.  And only the girls (I have issues with Twilight for other reasons... and so do a lot of women actually).

 

But to use words like "the majority" is interesting.  My Mom hates twilight (it's stupid to her).  I have some women friends that really like it, but because it's so silly and absurd.  I PVR'd the first one to watch it one time (since I hadn't seen any of them), and my roommates deleted it because it was obviously recorded accidentally.

 

 

 

It works the other way too.  I think there's much more concern in big budget entertainment that "if we market to women, men won't come" while "if we market to men, the women will still come."  Which is unfortunate (and damned if I know how to fix it).  So you get chicken and egg problems I find.

[HuldraDancer]

Using movies as an example of how everyone has different taste female and male and seeing as how many posters have pointed out not all ladies like romances and how most movies with female leads are labeled as romances should really show that women are not some strange species from men, we are all people who like different things I myself have seen only two romance movies that i have any interest in watching again at all and one of them has everything to do with my love for a side character(my adorable little Piale  ) and nothing to do with the leads while my friend foams at the mouth if there is a male and female lead that don't get together by the end of the movie. Now I can't speak for marketing since most movies I watch have been out for a while or on TV so I usually miss the adds for them. My friend adores romance movies, my mother loves horror movies and comedy movies, my grandmother loves disaster movies, my aunt goes nuts for revenge movies, my little cousin looses their mind for supper hero movies and I love the cheesy free on TV SciFi movies. Yes we are a small group of people but I find it hard to believe that the majority of women are like my friend who demand a romance to be included or they'd have no interest in the movie. So with all these different tastes that extend to movies, books, video games and any other forms of media why should marketing be so narrowly funneled? If there are customers out there who will truly be turned away by a competent female PC despite the fact that its been advertised that they can play male or female then that is entirely on them. As I've suggested before I really think a CC in the trailer would put a lot of minds at ease but I still would love to see a female PC in the trailer and get a glimpse of the voice acting and so I can show my little cousin that princess games are not the only games that you can be female in (I have nothing against Princesses and Barbies and such btw I just want to broaden her horizon a little bit  )

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Ever see a woman get made fun of because they liked video games?  I have.  By boys and girls.

I usually get this whenever i buy games from any store that isn't my local game store, stupid remarks & weird looks especially from male cashiers who can't fathom that im getting games for myself & not for a boyfriend/brother or any other male friend/relative

[syllogi]

I think imdb members. But I can be wrong. Who out there would rather watch "you've got mail" than "The Avengers?" My mom. 

 

I'm pretty sure that's only that single imdb member's top 25 "women's" movies.  Not very scientific.

 

I see you don't watch Anime. You don't know what creepy is.     And Twilight mostly watched by teen girls. For some reason girls like Justin Bieber.

 

Girls like many things.  More than half of all moviegoers are women.  When movies like the Avengers become box office hits, it's because women are going and enjoying it.  Frozen was created primarily for little girls, but Disney knew that they needed to make it enjoyable for boys and parents too, and that's why it became a hit.  There's a reason it's called "mainstream appeal"...

 

Twilight was a flash in the pan that was pushed forward by the success of Harry Potter before it as a series of young adult books made into movies (another franchise that women love, by the way), and the trendiness of vampires at that particular moment in pop culture.  True Blood and Vampire Diaries came out around the same time and were also based on book series about young women caught in a love triangle with hot angsty vamps.  It wasn't special or different than any other fad marketed towards women, other than the fact that there was a pushback from those who (rightly) saw the message as being harmful and the relationships portrayed as abusive.

 

Bringing it back to DA:I's marketing, it's obvious that there will be a female fan base that will buy the game no matter how little female versions of the main character are seen in trailers and screenshots, but it really would be nice if they showed us the female model sooner than later.  At this point, there's less than six months to launch, and we have had images of the human male version of the Inquisitor since last August.  Hopefully we get something more to talk about at E3.

[9TailsFox]

Not my Mom (we actually just watched the Avengers).  (It's not a voted list... it's literally someone posting what they think)

 

Here's part of the reality: people are socially influenced to like particular things (and to not like other things).  Ever see a woman get made fun of because they liked video games?  I have.  By boys and girls.  Do you think that that will affect what they do and do not like going forward?  I sure do.

 

A male nurse?  LOLOLOL.  Where I grew up people casually used the term "gay" to mean "stupid."  I think it's incorrect to assume that that doesn't help reinforce one's perception of the word, and all that it entails.

 

 

When we say "Women are the ones that like twilight" we're making social statements that girls are the ones supposed to like Twilight.  And only the girls (I have issues with Twilight for other reasons... and so do a lot of women actually).

 

But to use words like "the majority" is interesting.  My Mom hates twilight (it's stupid to her).  I have some women friends that really like it, but because it's so silly and absurd.  I PVR'd the first one to watch it one time (since I hadn't seen any of them), and my roommates deleted it because it was obviously recorded accidentally.

 

 

 

It works the other way too.  I think there's much more concern in big budget entertainment that "if we market to women, men won't come" while "if we market to men, the women will still come."  Which is unfortunate (and damned if I know how to fix it).  So you get chicken and egg problems I find.

My mom thinks Avengers stupid move for kids and video game to."You grown up and still play games"

 

I never saw women made fun for playing video game my sister play video games. In my environment is made fun for just playing games. Only kids play video games mentality.

 

A male nurse?  LOLOLOL.  Where I grew up people casually used the term "gay" to mean "stupid."  I think it's incorrect to assume that that doesn't help reinforce one's perception of the word, and all that it entails. ​This perfectly fits for my country.

 

And about Twilight do you honestly think Twilight is not made for teen girls and watched by teen girls. I have very reliable poll my sister and her friends.

[HuldraDancer]

Here's part of the reality: people are socially influenced to like particular things (and to not like other things).  Ever see a woman get made fun of because they liked video games?  I have.  By boys and girls.  Do you think that that will affect what they do and do not like going forward?  I sure do.

 

Yep. I had to for the longest time play only harvest moon and animal crossing games (which I do enjoy so lucky break there) in my aunts house since 'little girls don't like games' So unless it was something like Mario golf or harvest moon I couldn't play it, it was given to my male cousin. Heck I still have to practically apologize to the cashier for making them (there's always a male cashier when I go in too) help a woman before they take what I say seriously and I have to label myself as 'not a real gamer' to appease them before they pick their jaw off the ground and help me pick out a game or answer a question 

 

Oddly enough this didn't happen in school though where I'd always play my hand held during lunch aside from a 'Whoa you play video games? No way!' comment or two I was lucky enough to be left alone and actually talk to at least one person about the game I was playing so that was a nice and surprising break.

 

And did this affect me? Yeah I think it did I won't talk about gaming to most people any more and I suddenly choke when someones watching me since I have it hammered in my head that I'm not suppose to be playing these games and like I mention I feel the stupid need to apologize to a cashier for doing their job and helping me pick out a new game or answer questions I have. It didn't take away my love of games but it did make me more shy to tell people in person about it or to even play on harder settings.

[Allan Schumacher]

My mom thinks Avengers stupid move for kids and video game to."You grown up and still play games"

 

I never saw women made fun for playing video game my sister play video games. In my environment is made fun for just playing games. Only kids play video games mentality.

 

Perhaps part of the problem is drawing conclusions from your own experiences and assuming they reflect reality? (This is a human flaw that we all have, including myself).

 

"Only kids play video games" is the same thing, just applied to a different grouping of individuals.  There are still some that see "games are for kids."  Those people are wrong and the ignore that most gamers are not kids.  It doesn't stop those people from thinking it.

 

 

And about Twilight do you honestly think Twilight is not made for teen girls and watched by teen girls. I have very reliable poll my sister and her friends.

 

I'm saying that even if Twilight is made for teen girls, it doesn't reflect that only teen girls enjoy it (they don't), nor does it mean that a teen girl cannot enjoy it.  I'd argue it positions to a very specific type of demographic, but even within that demographic generalizations still fall apart.  For instance, teen girls that like it because they think it's an idealized romance story for women, versus teen girls that like it because they find angsty romance a hilarious form of escapist entertainment.

 

I can't say if it is or is not "the majority."  A lot of teen girls love Harry Potter too (as do teen boys, and adult men and women... and so forth).