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[AkiKishi]

It's not that no games with female leads sell well. Final Fantasy sells fine with women leads; they've done it more then once. The Metroid series is a staple of Nintendo and has been for years. The difference, when you look at games like Remember Me, Mirror's Edge, and Beyond: Two Souls, is that all of them are new, untested franchises, mostly with experimental gameplay, and (excluding Beyond, which will never make its money back ever because Cage is...absurd) a tiny budget.

 

I certainly want to see female protags head their own franchises. But seeing them inserted as protags in the key franchises of the generation is also key to helping dismantle the stigma female led games have unrightfully developed.

 

Dual leads and shared protagonists are pretty common in Japanese RPGs. Lightning Returns did badly though. 

 

We have a new character Aiden Pearce who conforms to pretty much every protagonist cliche in a new franchise and its selling gangbusters. When things like that happen, publishers won't take risks.

[Ryzaki]

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Yes clearly Snow being the main character would've saved Lighting Returns. Yep. That's all it needed.

[oceanicsurvivor]

Dual leads and shared protagonists are pretty common in Japanese RPGs. Lightning Returns did badly though. 

 

We have a new character Aiden Pearce who conforms to pretty much every protagonist cliche in a new franchise and its selling gangbusters. When things like that happen, publishers won't take risks.

 

Nobody is buying the game for the protag. Its because people are interested in a new set of interesting gaming mechanics that they know got a lot of attention and fine tuning (and advertising). With a woman in the lead, those same mechanics would still be in play, and that has always been the draw for Watch Dogs.

[AkiKishi]

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Yes clearly Snow being the main character would've saved Lighting Returns. Yep. That's all it needed.

 

I own the game I have the plat. That's the extent of my ability to support the game

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

The evidence that female cover art or female protagonists hurt sales is uncompelling and inconclusive.  Since there is no solid profit-basis for non-visibility of women in marketing material (I regard the shakiness of the profit and sales argument to be self-evident, and I won't address it), BioWare has no good reason not to show us more of the female inquisitor soon.

[AkiKishi]

Nobody is buying the game for the protag. Its because people are interested in a new set of interesting gaming mechanics that they know got a lot of attention and fine tuning (and advertising). With a woman in the lead, those same mechanics would still be in play, and that has always been the draw for Watch Dogs.

 

Actually I am in a way since I have the Dedsec edition. I don't know the story, nor do I want to at this point so I won't comment on if the game would change radically with a female protagonist. 

[oceanicsurvivor]

Actually I am in a way since I have the Dedsec edition. I don't know the story, nor do I want to at this point so I won't comment on if the game would change radically with a female protagonist. 

Because of the statue...? And...if there was a statue of a woman protag in a trench coat, holding a cell phone, wearing a ball cap and a bandanna over their mouth...you...wouldn't...buy it?

[AkiKishi]

Because of the statue...? And...if there was a statue of a woman protag in a trench coat, holding a cell phone, wearing a ball cap and a bandanna over their mouth...you...wouldn't...buy it?

 

Could not say without seeing it. If it was just a straight swap (same statue) probably not.

 

I think I own all the common games with female protagonists so as long as it was a nice design I probably would. But I've already stated I'd play AC with a Kunoichi,

[oceanicsurvivor]

Could not say without seeing it. If it was just a straight swap (same statue) probably not.

 

 

So, if that statue was exactly the same in every way, except it was a woman, you don't think you would purchase it? What makes it more dynamic as a man?

[AkiKishi]

So, if that statue was exactly the same in every way, except it was a woman, you don't think you would purchase it? What makes it more dynamic as a man?

 

The clothes just don't look right for a female. Sure a female could wear them, but I don't like the aesthetics.

 

I'd go for something more http://www.fanpop.co...e/claudia-photo (hope that links to the right picture)

[naddaya]

The clothes just don't look right for a female. Sure a female could wear them, but I don't like the aesthetics.

 

I'd go for something more http://www.fanpop.co...e/claudia-photo (hope that links to the right picture)

 

Doesn't look great on a man either.

[Felya87]

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Yes clearly Snow being the main character would've saved Lighting Returns. Yep. That's all it needed.

 

...I still don't understand why the game was called FF...the game was simply bad. No gender or character could have saved it. It was simply a mockery of the franchaise, nothing to do with the lead character.

 

by the way, female character and succesfull game: Portal.

[Lady Nuggins]

...I still don't understand why the game was called FF...the game was simply bad. No gender or character could have saved it. It was simply a rape of the franchaise, nothing to do with the lead character.

 

by the way, female character and succesfull game: Portal.

 

Would you please not use the word rape in that way here?  I would appreciate it.

 

But yes, I was waiting for someone to say Portal.  Can anybody dispute Portal's success with a female lead?

 

Child of Light also appears to be doing quite well despite the fact that it had pretty much no marketing and is download only.

[oceanicsurvivor]

Would you please not use the word rape in that way here?  I would appreciate it.

 

But yes, I was waiting for someone to say Portal.  Can anybody dispute Portal's success with a female lead?

 

Child of Light also appears to be doing quite well despite the fact that it had pretty much no marketing and is download only.

 

not to dispute its success but...I had no idea Portal had a female lead?

[Ryzaki]

...I still don't understand why the game was called FF...the game was simply bad. No gender or character could have saved it. It was simply a rape of the franchaise, nothing to do with the lead character.

 

by the way, female character and succesfull game: Portal.

 

What I don't get is why they kept making sequels once it became clear people did not like the game. Just...why?

[WildOrchid]

Because it sold well?

Besides, i loved the XIII trilogy (except x-2)

[SnakeCode]

As a straight male gamer, Lightning is my favourite FF protagonist in a long, long time.

 

I'd say only Cecil and Tidus eclipse her as far as being my favourite ever.

[Lady Nuggins]

Dual leads and shared protagonists are pretty common in Japanese RPGs. Lightning Returns did badly though. 

 

What dual lead?  Lightning Returns is a pretty awful game, but Lightning is absolutely the protagonist.

 

not to dispute its success but...I had no idea Portal had a female lead?

 

Chell, yes.  Although unfortunately you almost never get to actually see her in the game, you can tell she's female when you see yourself running through the portals.

[Ryzaki]

Because it sold well?

Besides, i loved the XIII trilogy (except x-2)

 

Each game sold progressively worse though from what I recall no?

[WildOrchid]

I assume if it sold badly, they could've stopped at first xiii.... or x-2.

[SnakeCode]

Each game sold progressively worse though from what I recall no?

Well, I own the first two, but I've heard some really bad things about the third. I'm almost positive quality had more to do with the poor sales than any other factor.

[Lady Nuggins]

Each game sold progressively worse though from what I recall no?

 

Regardless, Square-Enix obviously felt the games were worth the investment and sold well enough to justify making more.  That's what's important to this topic: with or without a female protagonist, the FFXIII franchise was relatively successful.

[WildOrchid]

Yeah, i didn't like Lightning Returns either.... this whole time thing annoyed me so much.

[Felya87]

Would you please not use the word rape in that way here?  I would appreciate it.

 

 

changed it. sorry if the term have offended, but I'm quite tired (time to go to sleep...two hours ago, and it was already late) and I know few english sinonimous.

 

by the way, I had tryed the demo of LR once out. bad. very bad. I've tried to like the FFXIII serie, but it was very unlovable by me. I still prefer in any aspect FFIX and FFX.

[Ryzaki]

Well, I own the first two, but I've heard some really bad things about the third. I'm almost positive quality had more to do with the poor sales than any other factor.

 

Most likely.

 

@Lady Nuggins: fair enough.