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[Stelae]

It was probably the buttons.  For a reason that I don't know and may have made sense at the time, men and women's coats button on different sides (rather, coats designed to be worn by men button on a different side than those designed to be worn by women).  I'm not going to research the reason.  For all I know, women could have effected (not affected) the differentiation.  I'm not a fashion apologist.  I'm just offering an explanation that makes the event slightly less ridiculous.

 

Non Sequitur: 

 

Until I see some more female inquisitor, I shall not rest.  Or, at least, I'll try to say something about it every day.  And when we're shown more female inquisitor and people are satisfied and we are victorious then... then... then I will have nowhere to go ;_;

The possibly apocryphal reason I've heard goes back to the time when buttons were a status symbol, and only worn by the wealthy (lesser mortals wore smocks, I suppose; this theory doesn't actually hold a lot of water ... ).  Men's shirts and jackets have the buttons on the right hand side because they buttoned their shirts themselves, and as they were right handed, they found having the buttons on the right was easier.  Women were dressed by a maid, and as most maids were also right handed, having the buttons on the left of a lady's shirt was easier to manage.  Left-handedness was looked on as an aberration, that I do know, up till the middle of last century.  My mum tells stories of nuns hitting her when she wrote with her left hand. 

 

There are even more apocryphal theories about gentlemen wearing weapons on their left, and so buttoning their coats on the right, and ladies holding babies with their left arms, and so on, but I suspect it's all guesswork, really.  It's also absolutely no reason to buy the coat you know you are going to wear and love until the buttons fall off, whatever side they are on.  So, yay, In Exile, for holding out for the right coat. 

 

Also, yay anyone who wears a kilt.  I find it quite hard not to objectify men who wear kilts.  Because I know that in addition to looking terrific, they are likely to be interested in history and/or costume, and brave enough to do as they damned well please.  It seems glib to say that anyone who gives you grief about wearing a kilt is not worth your time, but really, given that kilts are a form of highly concentrated awesome, it's a quick way to work out who to ignore. 

 

Maybe in Thedas, women can wear kilts?  Maybe the Inquisitor can ... that'd be nifty ... if only we could SEE HER

[aTigerslunch]

I ran out of likes. I wanted to and do like alot of the posts here. As far as relating to not worrying about shaving, not wearing bras and other things. If want to be comfortable go ahead. I shaved my body hair before and it did feel alot cooler, very itchie but cooler.

A game set to allow a princess to free herself. The prince shows up on his stallion expecting to kill a dragon drops his weapon in shock at the sight. A princess with a long flowing gown standing on the dragon with a sword stuck through its skull. I would love to see that.

Or a woman blowing away the smoke off a pistol while hundreds of dead men were standing there dumbfounded.

Take that! Haha! Actually only know one woman that is weak in rl, know tons more that would walk over slit a throat and watch someone bleed. Not precisely like that, mean being able to handle anything. The one is married and he is actually trying to push her out of that weak state, not in the bad sort of way though.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

The possibly apocryphal reason I've heard goes back to the time when buttons were a status symbol, and only worn by the wealthy (lesser mortals wore smocks, I suppose; this theory doesn't actually hold a lot of water ... ).  Men's shirts and jackets have the buttons on the right hand side because they buttoned their shirts themselves, and as they were right handed, they found having the buttons on the right was easier.  Women were dressed by a maid, and as most maids were also right handed, having the buttons on the left of a lady's shirt was easier to manage.  Left-handedness was looked on as an aberration, that I do know, up till the middle of last century.  My mum tells stories of nuns hitting her when she wrote with her left hand. 

 

There are even more apocryphal theories about gentlemen wearing weapons on their left, and so buttoning their coats on the right, and ladies holding babies with their left arms, and so on, but I suspect it's all guesswork, really.  It's also absolutely no reason to buy the coat you know you are going to wear and love until the buttons fall off, whatever side they are on.  So, yay, In Exile, for holding out for the right coat. 

 

Also, yay anyone who wears a kilt.  I find it quite hard not to objectify men who wear kilts.  Because I know that in addition to looking terrific, they are likely to be interested in history and/or costume, and brave enough to do as they damned well please.  It seems glib to say that anyone who gives you grief about wearing a kilt is not worth your time, but really, given that kilts are a form of highly concentrated awesome, it's a quick way to work out who to ignore. 

 

Maybe in Thedas, women can wear kilts?  Maybe the Inquisitor can ... that'd be nifty ... if only we could SEE HER

cool story.

 

Templars already wear skirts, yes for kilts and shorter skirts, but I don't think Bioware is going to put in the physics to make it look good.

[Stelae]

cool story.

 

Templars already wear skirts, yes for kilts and shorter skirts, but I don't think Bioware is going to put in the physics to make it look good.

It'd be a little sad if a potentially gorgeous kilt had the physics of the light armour for women in DAO (that's the only comparable skirt-length I can come up with). 

 

But that's what the whiz-bang new engine is for, right?  Improved fabric-physics and impeccable tartan rendering?  I mean, all these landscapes and settings and dragons and whatnot are all very well, but if you can't look Fabulous while romping about in/with them, Jaunty Hat optional, then why not stay at home?

[Silith]

I just want to jump in quickly to add my voice to the "Where is our Lady Inquisitor!" crowd. I've been following this thread since a while now and I really enjoy all these discussions you are having. Really interesting read!

 

As a side note, last night I actually dreamt that the Lady Inquisitor was revealed, and when I woke up I was almost convinced there'd be squeeing all over this thread... ah well. Back to waiting I guess. I'm placing all my hopes on the E3 now. Yeah.

 

So:

Maybe in Thedas, women can wear kilts?  Maybe the Inquisitor can ... that'd be nifty ... if only we could SEE HER

 

Yes!

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I just want to jump in quickly to add my voice to the "Where is our Lady Inquisitor!" crowd. I've been following this thread since a while now and I really enjoy all these discussions you are having. Really interesting read!
 
As a side note, last night I actually dreamt that the Lady Inquisitor was revealed, and when I woke up I was almost convinced there'd be squeeing all over this thread... ah well. Back to waiting I guess. I'm placing all my hopes on the E3 now. Yeah.
 
So:
 
Yes!

I hope to see actual in game footage of a female inquisitor at E3, if it passes with no mention of the female protagonist what so ever ill fear it'll just be ME3 all over again with just a token trailer near release at best for the female inquisitor while the male inquisitor continues getting promoted heavily

[syllogi]

I hope to see actual in game footage of a female inquisitor at E3, if it passes with no mention of the female protagonist what so ever ill fear it'll just be ME3 all over again with just a token trailer near release at best for the female inquisitor while the male inquisitor continues getting promoted heavily

 

I'm still trying to be optimistic, but it is about to be June, and we've seen and heard the male human Inquisitor since August of last year.  And while I really appreciated Mike Laidlaw using Female Hawke in a combat demo before DA2 came out, Lady Hawke wasn't really marketed either, so while I can point to DA:O and say I liked how that was marketed in terms of showing us female characters, I still worry.

 

I was hanging out in a thread very similar to this one months before ME2's release, and that was the dark time in which a few screenshots of FemShep were posted in the ME2 website's gallery without fanfare a day or two before the game came out, and that was the only time we got to see her.  I never even considered playing ME1 back when it first came out, due to hearing from other gaming forums that we HAD to play Default Male Shepard, and I was pretty active on the Bioware forums back then, just didn't have the drive to seek out more info on Mass Effect.   I don't think worrying is unreasonable, and I don't blame those who would have no clue that the Inquisitor can be anything other than a human male based on the footage shown so far.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I'm still trying to be optimistic, but it is about to be June, and we've seen and heard the male human Inquisitor since August of last year.  And while I really appreciated Mike Laidlaw using Female Hawke in a combat demo before DA2 came out, Lady Hawke wasn't really marketed either, so while I can point to DA:O and say I liked how that was marketed in terms of showing us female characters, I still worry.

I was more optimistic after seeing the gender neutral boxart but it got abit disheartening seeing pic after pic of the default male while there hasn't been a single in game pic of a female inquisitor even though the games getting pretty close to release.

[In Exile]

I was more optimistic after seeing the gender neutral boxart but it got abit disheartening seeing pic after pic of the default male while there hasn't been a single in game pic of a female inquisitor even though the games getting pretty close to release.

Wait until E3. Bioware clearly hasn't started their marketing push yet. 

[aTigerslunch]

Agreed, we do need to see her, cause right now most people might think its a male from previous advertising of games. But E3 is coming soon and might see her there, hopefully.

[Felya87]

I was more optimistic after seeing the gender neutral boxart but it got abit disheartening seeing pic after pic of the default male while there hasn't been a single in game pic of a female inquisitor even though the games getting pretty close to release.

 

not only a single pic, not even mention of her or the race selection in the official site. I know I'm monotonous, but this really bug me!

 

A few word typed near "became the Inquisitor" should't be such an hard thing to do! and it should have been done from the beginning! Urgh, maybe this annoy me because I can't help but make a natural comparison to my work.

Really, many of the companies I work with put the informations about thier product at the first place of the the marketing, expecially the informations about the personalization or the many differents colors and materials of the product they sell.

 

And I find ridicoluos that few words can't be typed on an INFORMATIVE official site. Is really so difficult add a few phrases on a page like the one of the DA:I site? I'm really curious, now. I don't think it was made to never be modified once published  . even if really, did who had made the page about the personalization of the character know about the game he/she was writing an informative page for? because, really, the chance of choosing race and sex are very important, maybe more than the class selection, since the classes are almost a given in a RPG.

But races and sex personalizations aren't a given. expecially in these days, and expecially since DA:I should somehow "celebrate" the return of the playable races, after those where taken away in DA2.

 

I'm sorry to say it, but the official site, as an informative media about the game, almost border on incompetence. 

[Ferretinabun]

Just as an aside, I was wondering recently what Race/Class/Sex I should pick for my first Inquisitor, and for some reason I can't get Human Male Warrior out of my head. Which is unlike me, as I usually find humans in fantasy games the least interesting to play. But I'm fairly confident Inquisition's marketing has something to do with it. Even though I KNOW the Inquisitor can be one of two genders, three classes and four races, I've only ever physically seen 'him' as this, and it's difficult picturing 'him' as anything else now.

 

Anyone else have this, or am I just reaaaally impressionable?

[Bugsie]

I did have that thought initially but I put it down to the fact I'm playing both DAO and DA2 currently with male characters and anyway I hardly ever play male character first, so no fear on my part all the awesome feelz I may get from the game are likely tied up in my female qunari warrior. Downside, she'll be there when I have those wtf moments too!

[Gregolian]

Just as an aside, I was wondering recently what Race/Class/Sex I should pick for my first Inquisitor, and for some reason I can't get Human Male Warrior out of my head. Which is unlike me, as I usually find humans in fantasy games the least interesting to play. But I'm fairly confident Inquisition's marketing has something to do with it. Even though I KNOW the Inquisitor can be one of two genders, three classes and four races, I've only ever physically seen 'him' as this, and it's difficult picturing 'him' as anything else now.

 

Anyone else have this, or am I just reaaaally impressionable?

I think it comes from this mostly:

-Masked Empire and Asunder really set up the conflict as very much a human issue.

 

-Yes, the elves are involved some with the Eluvians and such from TME, however, the Civil War right now is the forefront, which is a human issue.

 

-The dwarves have largely remained out of the limelight since (at least in my version of Origins) sent the Legion of the Dead and countless troops to the surface to fight the Blight in Fereldan

 

What we have seen so far of Inquisition has felt like a largely human conflict...  to me at least.  The male/warrior part though I don't know.  All other DA games were marketed as males.  Origins being a warrior with II a mage but still that could be partly it.

[aTigerslunch]

Im excited about the qunari and wondering how well a fem qunari would do. Considering they were hardly mentioned much or presented in past. Few of my friends are still unaware that they will be playable, male or female. Saturday I plan on sharing more on that.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

I was more optimistic after seeing the gender neutral boxart but it got abit disheartening seeing pic after pic of the default male while there hasn't been a single in game pic of a female inquisitor even though the games getting pretty close to release.

If it's so close to release though, isn't it not such a big deal since you'll be playing her vsoon?

[Nefla]

Just as an aside, I was wondering recently what Race/Class/Sex I should pick for my first Inquisitor, and for some reason I can't get Human Male Warrior out of my head. Which is unlike me, as I usually find humans in fantasy games the least interesting to play. But I'm fairly confident Inquisition's marketing has something to do with it. Even though I KNOW the Inquisitor can be one of two genders, three classes and four races, I've only ever physically seen 'him' as this, and it's difficult picturing 'him' as anything else now.

 

Anyone else have this, or am I just reaaaally impressionable?

I think a lot of fans are that way and get attached to the default. Me, I am in love with CCs and have never used a default if I don't have to. I also am sick to death of straight white human men in games so...yeah I wont be playing that guy.

 

PS I vote Lady Dwarf rogue, Lady Qunari warrior, or (soft spoken) male Qunari mage

 

PPS Gaiz I need to get a new computer so I can switch to PC gaming and record my playthroughs.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There are capture cards for consoles too, Nefla. 

[aTigerslunch]

I personally feel a qunari fem inq would attract few of my male and female friends over an elf or human. Dwarf might work but not sure that will make them consider it either.

The page could easily cover some pictures of them. Its always best to have that out about race/gender varieties in a game like this. I know one that failed horribly in this case. Actually few others I know were lacking info as well. I didnt get them till after someone I knew played it or somewhere hiding in the wiki had info. Very poor deal there.

[Tayah]

not only a single pic, not even mention of her or the race selection in the official site. I know I'm monotonous, but this really bug me!

 

A few word typed near "became the Inquisitor" should't be such an hard thing to do! and it should have been done from the beginning! Urgh, maybe this annoy me because I can't help but make a natural comparison to my work.

Really, many of the companies I work with put the informations about thier product at the first place of the the marketing, expecially the informations about the personalization or the many differents colors and materials of the product they sell.

 

And I find ridicoluos that few words can't be typed on an INFORMATIVE official site. Is really so difficult add a few phrases on a page like the one of the DA:I site? I'm really curious, now. I don't think it was made to never be modified once published  . even if really, did who had made the page about the personalization of the character know about the game he/she was writing an informative page for? because, really, the chance of choosing race and sex are very important, maybe more than the class selection, since the classes are almost a given in a RPG.

But races and sex personalizations aren't a given. expecially in these days, and expecially since DA:I should somehow "celebrate" the return of the playable races, after those where taken away in DA2.

 

I'm sorry to say it, but the official site, as an informative media about the game, almost border on incompetence. 

That's okay it really bugs me too which may be why I harp on the fact that 'she' only appears twice on the whole website in descriptions of class specialisations so maybe we're just being monotonous together 

 

And yes a mention of racial and gender choices could very easily have been mentioned under "Become the Inquisitor" or "Play your Way" and actually since the blurb under "Play your Way" says "Completely control the appearance and abilities of your Inquisitor, party of followers, outposts, and strongholds. Decide the makeup of your Inquisition forces and your own style of combat." you could very easily add it here. Since the news section is updated regularly on the main site and there's room to update specialisations and companions once the main marketing of the game kicks off I'm sure we'll see updates to the main website I just hope that includes gender and race choices and some definite pictures of fem inquisitor. Because you're right as a source of information on what's available in the game it's pretty poor in it's coverage of how much choice and customisation in DAI. 

 

 

I think a lot of fans are that way and get attached to the default. Me, I am in love with CCs and have never used a default if I don't have to. I also am sick to death of straight white human men in games so...yeah I wont be playing that guy.

 

PS I vote Lady Dwarf rogue, Lady Qunari warrior, or (soft spoken) male Qunari mage

 

PPS Gaiz I need to get a new computer so I can switch to PC gaming and record my playthroughs.

Nah I'm with you CCs are fun and I never use the default either if I can help it. I also refuse to play male so I'm definitely not playing that guy. 

 

I was originally leaning toward elf mage but now I'm leaning toward qunari mage as my first play through... I'm just waiting for pics of female qunari in game and some idea of how customisable they'll be in CC to make up my mind.

 

Ah who am I kidding I'll probably still not decide for sure until I'm actually playing around in the CC but a girl can dream right.   

[Lady Nuggins]

If it's so close to release though, isn't it not such a big deal since you'll be playing her vsoon?

 

That goes back to the whole "we're tired of the female protags being an afterthought" thing.  But I still think we should wait for E3 before we get too upset.  The biggest marketing push still has yet to come.

[Nefla]

That goes back to the whole "we're tired of the female protags being an afterthought" thing.  But I still think we should wait for E3 before we get too upset.  The biggest marketing push still has yet to come.

If they still don't show the lady inquisitor at E3 or if she is just a footnote or something while Dudebro McWhiteypants takes all the spotlight I forsee much wailing and gnashing of teeth, mostly from me T_T

[SerTabris]

I think this might be a case where "he or she" stylistically works well.  Usually, it's kind of cumbersome and sticks out, but I think that's an advantage here; it calls attention to the option in a way that a sentence that leaves the pronoun out wouldn't.  I think there have been other games with similar marketing claims where gender was not selectable, and while I wouldn't expect that from Bioware, I figure that the target audience for marketing might not. (I keep hearing stories in this thread and elsewhere about that.)

[Tayah]

If they still don't show the lady inquisitor at E3 or if she is just a footnote or something while Dudebro McWhiteypants takes all the spotlight I forsee much wailing and gnashing of teeth, mostly from me T_T

And me. 

 

I Really hope we see lady inquisitor at E3... or in my case in the threads about what was revealed at E3 

[Ashelsu]

Just as an aside, I was wondering recently what Race/Class/Sex I should pick for my first Inquisitor, and for some reason I can't get Human Male Warrior out of my head. Which is unlike me, as I usually find humans in fantasy games the least interesting to play. But I'm fairly confident Inquisition's marketing has something to do with it. Even though I KNOW the Inquisitor can be one of two genders, three classes and four races, I've only ever physically seen 'him' as this, and it's difficult picturing 'him' as anything else now.

 

Anyone else have this, or am I just reaaaally impressionable?

I'm quite the opposite. The more marketing tries to force their vision on me, the more my mind resists. I never played default Shepard and Hawke. And default Inquisitor starts to get on my nerves too. There is too much of him. And him looking like Sebastian doesn't help things either.

I'm going to wait and see if E3 will reveal something about race and gender selection. Because right now the situation is getting ridiculous, and sad.

I also know that I'm going to make sure my Ladies Inquisitors playthroughs will be uploaded for Bioware statistics. Getting tired of all the "wiminz don't really play games" bullshit.