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im upset about vigil and the other indoctrination sensing things


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rekn2

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i hate how i cant examine vigil or the beacon from thessia. there has to be a sensory aparatus some where. thats how physics works. if they can "see" something then that means the indoctrinated person is sending out something that can be detected like photons for example. every creature that can see does it the same way, photon collection.  collection is how everything senses anything from a distance.

 

 

as soon as i heard that the protheans were infiltrated by indoctrinated forces and that vigil could tell who was and wasnt indoced i wanted to tear him apart and find out how. we couldve made an anti-extinction plan that couldve worked. all through out me3 we hear nothing but "conventional victory wont work". well then lets use the tools we have at our disposal!



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i hate how i cant examine vigil or the beacon from thessia. there has to be a sensory aparatus some where. thats how physics works. if they can "see" something then that means the indoctrinated person is sending out something that can be detected like photons for example. every creature that can see does it the same way, photon collection.  collection is how everything senses anything from a distance.

 

 

as soon as i heard that the protheans were infiltrated by indoctrinated forces and that vigil could tell who was and wasnt indoced i wanted to tear him apart and find out how. we couldve made an anti-extinction plan that couldve worked. all through out me3 we hear nothing but "conventional victory wont work". well then lets use the tools we have at our disposal!

That could of worked. But no one believed Shepard about his conversation with Vigil.



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revan, he had access to edi not to mention a ton of credits, at least my shep did. with his resources and "go anywhere" ship i find it hard to believe he couldnt have at least assigned a small team to create something like it



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How would having an indoctrination-sensor somehow make conventional victory possible? Even if the reapers can no longer use their sleeper agents effectiveley they still are leagues above everything the galaxy can throw at them. They would still be almost indestructible giant spaceships, would still possess countless armies of husks and they would still be more advanced than anyone else in the galaxy.

The most you could manage with an anti-indoctrination device is to have them do all the work themselves, which might be an inconvinence to them but would hardly enable you to beat them in conventional fight.



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How would having an indoctrination-sensor somehow make conventional victory possible? Even if the reapers can no longer use their sleeper agents effectiveley they still are leagues above everything the galaxy can throw at them. They would still be almost indestructible giant spaceships, would still possess countless armies of husks and they would still be more advanced than anyone else in the galaxy.

The most you could manage with an anti-indoctrination device is to have them do all the work themselves, which might be an inconvinence to them but would hardly enable you to beat them in conventional fight.

i would hide enough humans to be able to continue  the species. if i was infiltrated i would know instantly



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Shepard needed a proven and effective counter to indoctrination. 

 

 

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i would hide enough humans to be able to continue  the species. if i was infiltrated i would know instantly

 

Protheans tried that, and were infiltrated while being able to spot indoctrination.



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i hate how i cant examine vigil or the beacon from thessia. there has to be a sensory aparatus some where. thats how physics works. if they can "see" something then that means the indoctrinated person is sending out something that can be detected like photons for example. every creature that can see does it the same way, photon collection.  collection is how everything senses anything from a distance.
 
 
as soon as i heard that the protheans were infiltrated by indoctrinated forces and that vigil could tell who was and wasnt indoced i wanted to tear him apart and find out how. we couldve made an anti-extinction plan that couldve worked. all through out me3 we hear nothing but "conventional victory wont work". well then lets use the tools we have at our disposal!

. It is indeed something that bugged my mind too . That is why i keep those silly Rachni alive. The queen must have some insight in the proces of indoctrination. I always imagined that would happen , you know, she talks with scientists . And then there is qauntum entanglement. Information transfer between two particles , e few thousand times FASTER then the speed of light. And how the information is carried is ofcourse another holy grail to be discovered.

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i would hide enough humans to be able to continue  the species. if i was infiltrated i would know instantly

 

As mentioned above: The protheans had means to detect indoctrinated people. And tell me, do you see many protheans around during the trilogy? No? Only one you say? Well looks like they still lost the war and went extinct. Seriously the reapers are written to be nigh-invincible, lovecraftian space horrors. There was no way they could have been beaten without some sort of "space-magic" with anti-indoctrination devices or not.



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i would call it inconsistant



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Do you hear that hum?  Is that just me?

 

 

 

 

Oh, it's just the light fixture.  My bad.

 

Seriously, though, a surviving Mordin should have been tasked with indoctrination countermeasures post-Suicide Mission.  In Mordin's loyalty mission, Maelon mentioned a paper Mordin wrote on the subject.  It'd've been no small stretch to put Mordin to work on that.  But no... gotta save the Krogan females instead, because Padok Wicks would've gotten it wrong.  :P