I want to play a hero who does whatever it takes to end the blight, and will die killing the archdeamon. If I take Alistair on that final run will he always do it? Even if I have not romanced him. I might even keep him low neutral or possibly negative if that can be done without him leaving. He never leaves unless you allow loghain in, correct? But will he be the one to die if I take him on the final run with me?
Question about final blow and not doing the ritual
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Posté 10 mars 2014 - 08:42
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I want to play a hero who does whatever it takes to end the blight, and will die killing the archdeamon. If I take Alistair on that final run will he always do it? Even if I have not romanced him. I might even keep him low neutral or possibly negative if that can be done without him leaving. He never leaves unless you allow loghain in, correct? But will he be the one to die if I take him on the final run with me?
If not in a romance, he'll still try to talk you into letting him do it, but it's pretty straight forward about what to say to turn him down and do it yourself. If, however, you were in a romance and he ended it, he'll still do it.
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Posté 10 mars 2014 - 02:06
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In my very first play-through, Alistair gave me quite a shock by taking Archy out and breaking my characters heart.
My fem Cousland was at adore with him. (I had no idea what I was doing). If you are in a relationship with him, leave him behind at the city gates. Then you can kill Archy yourself with no arguments 
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Posté 11 mars 2014 - 11:44
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There is only one way to romance him, break up and keep him in your party at the end and take the blow yourself. You have to break up in such a way the flags don't remain set to romanced. You will know at the city gates if they aren't set to what you want. You get an entirely different speech from him if you are a friend vs his love.
But ya, if he is in love, or his 'love flag' is still set regardless of breaking up, he will sacrifice himself and without IRS:Alistair, you have no option to make him let you. Leaving him at the gate is the only way.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 06:05
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In my very first play-through, Alistair gave me quite a shock by taking Archy out and breaking my characters heart.
My fem Cousland was at adore with him. (I had no idea what I was doing). If you are in a relationship with him, leave him behind at the city gates. Then you can kill Archy yourself with no arguments
How about that. I just learned something new. I didn't know you can leave Alistair at the gate. I was under the impression he had to go with you. I'll remember that the next time I play origins.
When I romanced him(for the trophy) he took the blow in my honor. What a guy.
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Posté 20 mars 2014 - 05:38
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Alistair died once and I will not go there again. My warden usually takes the moral high ground throughout but not here. Such is life - our decisions are always ours.
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Posté 02 avril 2014 - 11:52
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Alistair died in my first playthrough and I'm not planning on repeating it. With my human hating city elf, I left Alistair at the gate and brought Shale, Wynne, and Zevran (lost Leliana after I defiled the Ashes) and the final battle with the archdemon seemed easier. No one was downed, at least not for long and I destroyed the archdemon. That elf was crazy overpowered.
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Posté 03 avril 2014 - 05:54
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How about that. I just learned something new. I didn't know you can leave Alistair at the gate. I was under the impression he had to go with you. I'll remember that the next time I play origins.
When I romanced him(for the trophy) he took the blow in my honor. What a guy.
I'm wondering if my game was glitched. He was locked in on my mage walkthrough but not my warrior walkthrough. I didn't have the option to take him out. No one else had this happen? It just happen about a month ago.
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Posté 03 avril 2014 - 05:59
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It's one of the more infuriating things in the game for many people; especially female gamers. I'm referring to a romanced Alistair taking the final blow no matter what. It falls under many cliches. There should have been an non-modded option to knock him out to it yourself. You shouldn't have to watch powerlessly as he picks up the sword and charges anymore than he should have to watch you. But I can see the Warden knocking out her love to save his life. I can't see Alistair doing the same.
The way around this is to leave him at the gate. Besides involving heavy meta-gaming, it's strategically stupid. It also takes away the dramatic end when Alistair isn't at your side when you sacrifice yourself. Sigh. As a console gamer there's nothing I can do.
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Posté 03 avril 2014 - 06:16
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It's one of the more infuriating things in the game for many people; especially female gamers. I'm referring to a romanced Alistair taking the final blow no matter what. It falls under many cliches. There should have been an non-modded option to knock him out to it yourself. You shouldn't have to watch powerlessly as he picks up the sword and charges anymore than he should have to watch you. But I can see the Warden knocking out her love to save his life. I can't see Alistair doing the same.
The way around this is to leave him at the gate. Besides involving heavy meta-gaming, it's strategically stupid. It also takes away the dramatic end when Alistair isn't at your side when you sacrifice yourself. Sigh. As a console gamer there's nothing I can do.
I would absolutely love this option.
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Posté 03 avril 2014 - 07:47
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It's one of the more infuriating things in the game for many people; especially female gamers. I'm referring to a romanced Alistair taking the final blow no matter what. It falls under many cliches. There should have been an non-modded option to knock him out to it yourself. You shouldn't have to watch powerlessly as he picks up the sword and charges anymore than he should have to watch you. But I can see the Warden knocking out her love to save his life. I can't see Alistair doing the same.
The way around this is to leave him at the gate. Besides involving heavy meta-gaming, it's strategically stupid. It also takes away the dramatic end when Alistair isn't at your side when you sacrifice yourself. Sigh. As a console gamer there's nothing I can do.
Yes, forced yet again. We get a lot of forced choices handed to us. Moments that seem to always infuriate rather than go according to plan like if he kills Loghain because you let him do the battle (which makes sense, really) then he could get executed or end up king. And if he's king he dumps you for the taint in your blood which BTW he has too and for half a year longer.
I've decided there are just a few ways I like this game to end and of them my favorite is female (prefer mages but any class I guess) with him not hardened and staying with the wardens with me since and 'love' status. Hell, if you play awakening you are still a warden so it's not like anything changes. Still have the taint. Might as well be happily in the wardens with him AFTER the darkspawn are gone so you can have less battle nonsense and more of those 'good times' he mentions. I think court actually would be a lot less fun being on best behavior and all. I also kind of like that a mage saves ferelden because it kind of shoves it right in the chantry and templar's face. Their hero is a mage. Ha! Guess they aren't all bad. Will have to live with that folks.
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Posté 03 avril 2014 - 07:50
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I'm wondering if my game was glitched. He was locked in on my mage walkthrough but not my warrior walkthrough. I didn't have the option to take him out. No one else had this happen? It just happen about a month ago.
I don't think locking him in is a glitch. There must be some reason why he was locked in that is one of those nonsense reasons or 'rules' that is present throughout the game, most famously at the landsmeet around the king business.
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Posté 05 avril 2014 - 11:50
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I would absolutely love this option.
tmp7704 used to have a stand-alone mod that did exactly that, if you're on PC. It now seems to be rolled into cmessaz's "Improved Romance Scenes" for Alistair:
http://social.biowar...m/project/2573/
I would have been happy with a code change that made him an ally (blue placement marker) instead of a companion (gold marker under my control) and we could race to the Archdemon to see who gets the final blow. It would have opened up the opportunity for dueling self-sacrifices without having one auto-succeed.
Once upon a time, I happened to win a FINE DWARVEN CRAFTS fan-sponsored contest, and the prize was a commission from Aimo. I asked exactly for Alistair shield-bashing my f!Cousland -
because Maker yes, that annoyed the living bejeezus out of me.
