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[cap and gown]

Dianna Shepard is no more. I have carried this playthrough as far as I can go. I don't ever want to see the name Tali'Zorah vas Normandy on the memorial wall again. But at least I got to see what a Tali-less ME3 looks like. I grew weary of this Shepard once the Dreadnaught mission was done, but pressed on to the Rannoch finale just to see how it all turned out.

 

Not being very interested in continuing on, I skipped the Admiral Korris mission to speed things up, so this is the first time I heard the comm chatter about civilians ships being destroyed while we were fighting on Rannoch.

 

My team mates were Ash and James. Nothing terribly notable about their comments. The entire scene where Tali claims the land at the beginning of the mission is skipped, of course, and you jump right into the battle.

 

I was expecting to side with the Geth this time, but Legion's argument for siding with the Geth turned out to be incredibly weak. "The Creators are irrational." Um, is that an ad-hominen attack, or do you have something in particular you can point to to back that assertion up? Even if they are, does that mean they should be wiped out? Give me something to work with here Legion! The Geth VI made a stronger case than Legion did. (The only time I ever sided with the Geth, and it was something of an accident, was with the Geth VI.) The big difference with the Geth VI, and perhaps with a Tali playthrough, was not having a renegade interrupt to shoot Legion. Admiral Raan blasts Legion with a shotgun, Shepard pulls out the classic Predator, but then there is no interrupt to use it. I wouldn't have used it, but I was expecting it. After that, Admirals Raan, Xen, and Gerral show up to thank Shepard. I suppose if Admiral Korris had lived he would have been there too. (Do they have teleporters in the ME universe? How did they all get down to the planet so fast? Maybe we could have just beamed aboard the Dreadnaught! Do we even need the Kodiak?)

 

I was also curious to see if Legion's name would appear on the memorial wall. It did.

 

 

[themikefest]

You know if you don't recruit Tali in ME2 her name won't show up on the wall.

[Excella Gionne]

You know if you don't recruit Tali in ME2 her name won't show up on the wall.

Is that possible?

[Excella Gionne]

I've killed off all squadmates from across the Trilogy in one playthrough. Very simple, but impossible probably at your N7 Spec Ops.

[themikefest]

Is that possible?

Yes. You only see her on Freedom's Progress at the beginning. She is not a mandatory squadmate. If you don't recruit her someone will die since she provides the upgrade for the shields for the Normandy. I've done this several times.

 

 

I've killed off all squadmates from across the Trilogy in one playthrough. Very simple, but impossible probably at your N7 Spec Ops.

I've done that. I filled the wall completely with only having Samantha and Joker at the memorial wall scene.

 

Don't know anything about the N7 Spec Ops. I guess that has something to do with multiplayer.

[shepskisaac]

Yes. You only see her on Freedom's Progress at the beginning. She is not a mandatory squadmate. If you don't recruit her someone will die since she provides the upgrade for the shields for the Normandy. I've done this several times.

 

 

I've done that. I filled the wall completely with only having Samantha and Joker at the memorial wall scene.

 

Don't know anything about the N7 Spec Ops. I guess that has something to do with multiplayer.

So what are requirements for having only Samantha in the memorial scene? How can Joker be killed without killing Traynor?

[themikefest]

So what are requirements for having only Samantha in the memorial scene? How can Joker be killed without killing Traynor?

 

I never heard of Joker being killed without Samantha dead. And I've never had Samantha alone at the wall scene. I've seen on youtube showing the namplate floating and Joker the only one at the wall. I suspect its a bug or glitch.

 

The only way for them to be killed is for your ems to be below 1750. The door to the Normandy doesn't open

[themikefest]

That was a modded save. There are no normal circumstances to make that happen.

Thanks for letting me know.

[Animositisomina]

Thanks for letting me know.

 

My mistake... according to the description of this video, it actually can be done by killing off every squadmate throughout the trilogy. A brief guide is given in the description as well on how exactly it occurred.

 

From the video:

 

To get this ending:
- Kill Tali and Garrus in the Collector Base in ME2, or just get Garrus killed and side with the Geth in ME3.
- Your Virmire Survivor must be killed when Cerberus attacks the Citadel.
- James and Liara must be brought on the final assault.
- Don't recruit Javik if you have the DLC.
Your EMS must be BETWEEN 1750 and 2050. No higher, no lower. Otherwise, either the galaxy will be destroyed, or Harbinger wont cook James and Liara for you.

 

This is not an edited save. I believe that Traynor was meant to put Shep's name on the wall, but because so many people had died, the game got confused while looking for her.

[Excella Gionne]

My mistake... according to the description of this video, it actually can be done by killing off every squadmate throughout the trilogy. A brief guide is given in the description as well on how exactly it occurred.

 

From the video:

This sometimes happens regardless, but yes, Traynor is suppose to but it does bug when so much people have died.

[themikefest]

That's interesting because I have killed everyone filling the wall completely with names that didn't make it on the wall that were dead and still got Samantha to put up the nameplate even when I didn't romance her. I guess I'm fortunate that I haven't gotten the floating nameplate.

[shepskisaac]

That's interesting because I have killed everyone filling the wall completely with names that didn't make it on the wall that were dead and still got Samantha to put up the nameplate even when I didn't romance her. I guess I'm fortunate that I haven't gotten the floating nameplate.

Did she also came out with Joker from Normandy? In the linked video she's bugged in that scene too, and then memorial wall.

 

Also is she the default character for memorial scene if Shep has no romance or is that Liara (if alive)?

[Darks1d3]

If Liara is alive and if Shepard didn't romance anyone, than Liara is the default character who places Shepard's name on the memorial wall.

[themikefest]

Did she also came out with Joker from Normandy? In the linked video she's bugged in that scene too, and then memorial wall.

 

Also is she the default character for memorial scene if Shep has no romance or is that Liara (if alive)?

Samantha always exits the ship when I romance her regardless of my ems(except below 1750)

 

I did a playthrough not romancing anyone and the two squadmates I used the most exited the ship, James and Liara. But it was Samantha that put up the nameplate. I believe its the one you talk to the most on the ship that puts up the nameplate.

[themikefest]

If Liara is alive and if Shepard didn't romance anyone, than Liara is the default character who places Shepard's name on the memorial wall.

Incorrect. Its the one you talk to the most on the ship

[shepskisaac]

So you had no romance with Traynor, Liara was alive and it was Sam who put the name on?

[themikefest]

So you had no romance with Traynor, Liara was alive and it was Sam who put the name on?

yes.

[shepskisaac]

Hmm  this makes me wonder if it's possible to have Javik, EDI or Vega putting the name on wall. Could be pre-assigned to always Samantha or Liara

[themikefest]

Hmm  this makes me wonder if it's possible to have Javik, EDI or Vega putting the name on wall. Could be pre-assigned to always Samantha or Liara

I believe James, edi(only in control and sythesis) and Javik don't do it is becusae they aren't LI's even though edi and Joker are a "couple" That's what I believe.

[Darks1d3]

Incorrect. Its the one you talk to the most on the ship

Really? damn, than I will gladly eat my words. Learned something new today.

[themikefest]

Really? damn, than I will gladly eat my words. Learned something new today.

The only way I found that out was I did two playthroughs back-to-back without romancing anyone. The first playthrough I talked to no one. After Thessia and seeing that its edi that tracks Kai Leng(later gives credit to Traynor) I talked with Samantha and again after Horizon and again after Chronos. I still didn't talk with anyone.

My ems was at 2179 and it was Traynor that put up the nameplate and that's how I found out it s based on who you talk to the most on the ship.

 

If interested here's a thread I made last year about what happens when you don't talk to crew and squad.

[themikefest]

Forgott to add. In my second playthrough I talked with everyone(did a ME3 default playthrough) and it still ended up being Samantha that held the nameplate. Shepard lived with over 3100ems.