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[Killdren88]

Once we take care of most of the issues here in Thedas, think it is time to expand the boarders of the known map and explore what more is out there beyond the map? Maybe we can create a ship captain of sorts, travel the uncharted seas to uncharted lands fight pirates and sea monsters and such in a expeditionary fleet on behalf of an organization or King? Or maybe perhaps travel beyond the Kokari wild and explore the rest of the landmass Thedas is connected to. Who knows what else is out there!

 

Maybe we can rediscover griffons in a uncharted land. Maybe land where Darkspawn have thrived. Or another Empire of Elves a forgotten Sister Empire to Arlathan. So much potential if you ask me. We can be the leader of the Expedition with out colorful crew, we catalog new animals and plants along the way. It can be a very merry little adventure after the dark times of the fade tear...Thoughts?

[mybudgee]

LOL

[phunx]

We haven't even seen the majority of this continent, so there's room to explore here.

[Cyr8]

I would be down with that idea. Expanding the world beyond Thedas is a good idea. Maybe after they finish the 'Dragon Age' they can explore a new 'Adventurer's Age' or something like that.

[kuro_sasori]

I do not know why but the OP reminded me a lot of Eternal Arcadia and the exploration and ships that were in the game. I love that game!

Anyway, more exploration will most likely be included not only in Inquisition but later installments, since as phunx pointed out we still have not seen one continent entirely.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Once we finish exploring the Thedas we know about, I would really like this idea. 

[Killdren88]

I do not know why but the OP reminded me a lot of Eternal Arcadia and the exploration and ships that were in the game. I love that game!

Anyway, more exploration will most likely be included not only in Inquisition but later installments, since as phunx pointed out we still have not seen one continent entirely.

 

Could be a game devised in two Parts. One that leads into the Sea while the other heads further into the landmass Thedas lays on with two separate characters and parties. Or once the Main character fished one, S/he is asked to lead the expedition in the other game.

[Thermopylae]

Sure. Be prepared for the following, a culture with variations of Oriental stereotypes and a continent with a culture using pottery furnaces and a sophisticated stone using technology building pyramids. They would have names with difficult to pronounce syllable combinations. But cynicism aside, the scenario you propose could be interesting.

 

Imagine the known cultures of Thedas competing with each other in an age of exploration and colonization. The Qunari have gunpowder. The blood magic users would be amongst the first to become colonists and try to establish their communities outside the influence of the Templars and other authorities. The Old world would try to exert control over the colonists and root out the blood magic users. Because Demons are real in the Thedas setting very bad things would happen.

[Killdren88]

Sure. Be prepared for the following, an culture with variations of Oriental stereotypes and a continent with pottery furnaces and, sophisticated stone using culture building pyramids with difficult to pronounce syllable combinations. But cynicism aside, the scenario you propose could be interesting.

 

Imagine the known cultures of Thedas competing with each other in an age of exploration and colonization. The Qunari have gunpowder. The blood magic users would be amongst the first to become colonists and try to establish their communities outside the influence of the Templars and other authorities. The Old world would try to exert control over the colonists and root out the blood magic users. Because Demons are real in the Thedas setting very bad things could happen.

 

Well, perhaps how things play out in DA:I, we may have a means of dealing with the demons. Speculation of course. For all we know we may just be pushing them back.

[kuro_sasori]

Sure. Be prepared for the following, a culture with variations of Oriental stereotypes and a continent with a culture using pottery furnaces and a sophisticated stone using technology building pyramids. They would have names with difficult to pronounce syllable combinations. But cynicism aside, the scenario you propose could be interesting.

 

Is this because of my comment about Eternal Arcadia?  Well, here in Japan not many people thought it was stereotyping anybody since we had to admit that most people here have slanted eyes and time ago kimono were more commonly wore, among other things portrayed withing the game of course. There are pyramids which I think resembled those from old Mesoamerican civilizations. Not very original maybe, but I still liked the game   , which does not mean I am expecting DAI to be a copy of it; the exploration part however, would probably be a nice addition if implemented.

[Aimi]

Is this because of my comment about Eternal Arcadia?  Well, here in Japan not many people thought it was stereotyping anybody since we had to admit that most people here have slanted eyes and time ago kimono were more commonly wore, among other things portrayed withing the game of course. There are pyramids which I think resembled those from old Mesoamerican civilizations. Not very original maybe, but I still liked the game   , which does not mean I am expecting DAI to be a copy of it; the exploration part however, would probably be a nice addition if implemented.

Speaking more generally, there's no particular historical reason that some sort of "Age of Exploration" has to happen. If we are copying and pasting parts of European history and applying them to Thedas, one might as well copy and paste caricatures of the societies that the Europeans encountered, as well.

[Killdren88]

Speaking more generally, there's no particular historical reason that some sort of "Age of Exploration" has to happen. If we are copying and pasting parts of European history and applying them to Thedas, one might as well copy and paste caricatures of the societies that the Europeans encountered, as well.

 

 

I see no problem with that. Often in fantasy we draw inspiration for new civilizations and cultures. It is how fantasy has worked for the most part.

[metatheurgist]

I'd turn it around a bit. More Marco Polo than Chris Columbus. Either an embassy from an unknown land arrives and tries to civilize the local barbarians or some threat arrives locally that legend implies comes from distant lands. So the locals have to send someone as an ambassador to these lands to sort stuff out. It'll be less exploration but more discovery.

[kuro_sasori]

Speaking more generally, there's no particular historical reason that some sort of "Age of Exploration" has to happen. If we are copying and pasting parts of European history and applying them to Thedas, one might as well copy and paste caricatures of the societies that the Europeans encountered, as well.

Inspiration is usually drawn from previous creations, so I do not see anything wrong with doing it as long as we understand the differences, in this case, between reality and a fantasy setting. It has been obvious that when creating Thedas the writers were somehow inspired by Medieval Europe to a certain extent. Perhaps other installments in the DA series will portray something similar to those civilizations encountered by Europeans, we will end up exploring other continents within their fictional world and that means other civilizations might appear probably inspired by those previously mentioned. I think this is OK as long as it is in a respectful and innovative way, similarities do not necessarily means exact copies and they can still implement it in innovative ways, without mocking anybody.

[Big I]

As a member of an indigineous culture I have zero interest in playing through a story of European culture expys exploring and colonising the world.

 

 

Also, Thedas is nowhere near technologically advanced enough to do this. Only the qunari could hope to do so.

[kuro_sasori]

I think the thread is deviating a bit due to my first comment and I am sorry for that. The OP never mentioned indigenous people or anything like that, that came after I mentioned the game Eternal Arcadia which included people that seemed to be from Pre-Columbian civilizations. I just mentioned I liked the game and suddenly it seems as if I were advocating for that to be included in the game, which I am not. 

I agree with the exploration part though and getting to see more world, which eventually will happen I assume. Besides, we do not even know if other civilizations or races in Thedas are more advanced than the Qunari which would make it quite the opposite that occurred when the Europeans arrived in the New World, making the idea of conquering less compelling due the risks involved, probably.

[CrabbyCrackers]

“When you see someone putting on his Big Boots, you can be pretty sure that an Adventure is going to happen.”  pooh

[Snook]

And then it's later discovered the Qunari were here a few hundred years before us, but we take credit for first landing anyway.

[JeffZero]

Yeah...i fully agree...

"For God, Gold and Glory" says them....everyone in the world are barbarians, except them, and that give them right to "educate" us, to take our land, changing our culture, decide our future...they are right, we are wrong....

I was trying my best to refrain from going here, but since you two have already nailed it, I'll chime in and agree. Damn, it irks me.

[BroBear Berbil]

It's an interesting idea, but I think we'd need to see more of Thedas before expanding to other continents would be palatable.

 

 

Yeah...i fully agree...

 

"For God, Gold and Glory" says them....everyone in the world are barbarians, except them, and that give them right to "educate" us, to take our land, changing our culture, decide our future...they are right, we are wrong....

 

So edgy.

[JeffZero]

It's an interesting idea, but I think we'd need to see more of Thedas before expanding to other continents would be palatable.



So edgy.

This is a very sensitive subject for a lot of people in a lot of countries whose ancestors were largely wiped from the face of the earth in the colonial wake. I really doubt being "edgy" was Qistina's goal.

[BroBear Berbil]

This is a very sensitive subject for a lot of people in a lot of countries whose ancestors were largely wiped from the face of the earth in the colonial wake. I really doubt being "edgy" was Qistina's goal.

Yes, which is why I didn't say more. There is an irony when reading that post and looking at their profile pic.

 

Conquest, colonization, and conversion are not alien subjects in DA. I don't think the OP even mentioned anything other than exploration and a curiosity about what's past the edges of the map. Somebody just saw the name in the title and played the victim card.

[JeffZero]

I can't say as I blame them for bristling at the fact that Columbus' name is specifically cited, although I generally don't go out of my way in these matters as far as gaming forums are concerned, aye.

Indeed, Dragon Age tackles those issues head-on (which I adore it for).

[Killdren88]

Yeah, it dosen't need to Christopher Columbus in nature, I only use him as an example of notable explorers is all. I meant nothing behind it.

[metatheurgist]

As a member of an indigineous culture I have zero interest in playing through a story of European culture expys exploring and colonising the world.

Also, Thedas is nowhere near technologically advanced enough to do this. Only the qunari could hope to do so.

That's why I suggested Marco Polo. That was more about 2 cultures learning about each other than one culture overriding another. And why I suggested the turn-around of Fereldans being the ones thought of as primitive by the visiting culture.