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[RenegadeXV]

Hm... Thinking about it I think a plotline like that would have its merits and its faults.

 

A group of explorers or researchers land on a planet and initiate first contact with the people there who turn out to be approximately proto-space age civilizations that have found themselves somewhat at a loss as to how to get into space due to a complete lack of Prothean technology in the area for them to use. Instead they have found themselves in a situation where working examples of the technology are being shown to them directly and that's part of the beginning of the story.

 

In true ME fashion there could be two main groups of individuals on the planet who are in primary control, those who want to try and determine their own way into the stars and those who wish to take this new technology and expand. Throw in some political unrest and radical groups and I think we've got a pretty decent situation for a story to take place in.

 

I think it would have a tone setting similar to the one in ME2. Where there is a real and true threat but it doesn't feel galaxy-wide. By that I mean that the decisions we make will feel like they are a lot smaller compared to ME3 for example though they will probably still be choices we debate. I think the issue I would have is trying to make sure that despite spending most our time on one planet the game still feels big enough.

 

I wouldn't suggest having the entirety of the story revolve around the uplift, as I agree that it would severely limit the scale of the story, but it could be interesting as an ongoing plot-thread or a DLC. We just missed out on seeing something like this with the Raloi. They could possibly play a role in the next ME, assuming it's a sequel.

[B.Shep]

I'm pretty sure the mission to uplift the Yahg was cancelled when they killed the diplomatic unit. They were researching the Yahg, that much is true though.

Nope. The Salarian Union was planning to uplift them to use in secret from the other council races. That was said during the Surkesh mission.

[Terca]

I wouldn't suggest having the entirety of the story revolve around the uplift, as I agree that it would severely limit the scale of the story, but it could be interesting as an ongoing plot-thread or a DLC. We just missed out on seeing something like this with the Raloi. They could possibly play a role in the next ME, assuming it's a sequel.

 

DLC does seem like the best way to handle that situation then. Being able to take part in or assist in the uplifting of a species would be a fun little side excursion for players to partake in. How much impact it would have... Dunno, but it could be rather interesting. The Raloi seemed a bit odd to me in ME3 because they are stated to exist and then are not really ever referenced again. We could wind up interacting with the Raloi which could be fun, who knows, but another race would be just as interesting.

 

Nope. The Salarian Union was planning to uplift them to use in secret from the other council races. That was said during the Surkesh mission.

 

Really? I have no recollection of it. I'll take your word on it then.

[JeffZero]

The Raloi originated in one of those Cerberus News things that updated on ME2 for a long time and I think maybe there was an idea for them in ME3 at one point but it had to be culled. Or maybe there never was; either way the name got dropped in-game once or twice for consistency's sake since first contact is kind of a big deal.

[RenegadeXV]

The Raloi originated in one of those Cerberus News things that updated on ME2 for a long time and I think maybe there was an idea for them in ME3 at one point but it had to be culled. Or maybe there never was; either way the name got dropped in-game once or twice for consistency's sake since first contact is kind of a big deal.

 

Yeah there was a mention of them in the Spectre Requisitions office. Something about taking down their satellites in an attempt to appear pre-spaceflight to the Reapers. Still, it does seem a little odd that we never did see them considering a few things were foreshadowed in the Cerberus Daily News (Tela Vasir, Kalros etc).

 

I get it though. Budget and time constraints meant it would've made little sense to create an entirely new model just introduce another race in the last act of a trilogy.

 

As for the Yahg uplift, see here.

[Terca]

Reintroduction of the Raloi could work then, I had forgotten the details (haven't played through ME3 in a while) but based on that it would make sense that should ME4 take place post Shepard there could be an attempt to interact with the Raloi again. Or another race for that matter, but considering what we know about council races and known sentient species if we want a new species it has to be post-ME3 or in another era. I don't think they would retcon a species into the Shepard timeline.

[spinachdiaper]

this gives me hope that ME4 is in such a distant future that it would make the all choices in the ME Trilogy ambiguous except for the complete ruling out of Synthesis

[felipejiraya]

Very interesting report and I agree that some of this will be truth but until then let's take it with a grain of salt.

 

If NME turns out to be a Star Trek: Voyager like story with a lost ship exploring the galaxy trying to return home I wouldn't talk when the game takes place, let the players imagine this through the game.

[Terca]

Eh... You could say that the player character could have been on a ship that was escaping from a reaper ship made a risky decision in dropping out of FTL in the space between relays instead of at the next one. Then the ME game could take place on a ship that was on Sortie from the Citadel and then found itself in the inter-Relay space. That would justify a diverse crew and an array of backgrounds.

[Nitrocuban]

I think the "stranded far from home" setting could work very well for a ME sequel.

A big arche fleet uses an intergalactic mass relay to escape the not-so-well-going Reaper war, the target relay blows up just right after the fleet arives in the new galaxy. The biggest civil ship is the "hub world" and we explore together with all council races a totally unknown galaxy.

[SNascimento]

I think the "stranded far from home" setting could work very well for a ME sequel.

A big arche fleet uses an intergalactic mass relay to escape the not-so-well-going Reaper war, the target relay blows up just right after the fleet arives in the new galaxy. The biggest civil ship is the "hub world" and we explore together with all council races a totally unknown galaxy.

Sounds too small, too limited. 

Far future is the way to go. Or some kind of fresh start. Unbounded by the original trilogy. 

[Nitrocuban]

Think about ST: Voyager or Stargate Atlantis. Enough things for old fans to recognize, much potential for new adventures being told.

Works both very well.

[JeffZero]

this gives me hope that ME4 is in such a distant future that it would make the all choices in the ME Trilogy ambiguous except for the complete ruling out of Synthesis

Except for the complete ruling out of the one I like. ;_;

[Iakus]

this gives me hope that ME4 is in such a distant future that it would make the all choices in the ME Trilogy ambiguous except for the complete ruling out of Synthesis

At which point why not reboot the franchise anyway?

[Terca]

Well, the way Bioware has talked about the next ME in relation to the Shep Trilogy makes it seem like there is not going to be a heck of a lot of relation between them so for all intents and purposes it could look somewhat like a reboot. I mean, I remember someone who was interviewed not liking the name ME4 because it assumes a direct continuation of the Shepard Trilogy which makes me feel like it isn't going to be related very much at all. Reboot? Maybe not, I think we will just be put in a frame where Shepard doesn't really matter yet, anymore, or at the time.

[Drone223]

Well, the way Bioware has talked about the next ME in relation to the Shep Trilogy makes it seem like there is not going to be a heck of a lot of relation between them so for all intents and purposes it could look somewhat like a reboot. I mean, I remember someone who was interviewed not liking the name ME4 because it assumes a direct continuation of the Shepard Trilogy which makes me feel like it isn't going to be related very much at all. Reboot? Maybe not, I think we will just be put in a frame where Shepard doesn't really matter yet, anymore, or at the time.

I doubt it'll be a reboot, the first ME game isn't even 10 years old.

[Revan299s]

I doubt it'll be a reboot, the first ME game isn't even 10 years old.

Agreed. And if it was a reboot. I wouldn't even touch it lol

[Terca]

I'm not saying it will or would be a reboot of the series, I mean that as in the next game could be far removed from Shepard himself, which I would see as likely. There's no need to reboot the series, I agree with you two.

[Drone223]

I'm not saying it will or would be a reboot of the series, I mean that as in the next game could be far removed from Shepard himself, which I would see as likely. There's no need to reboot the series, I agree with you two.

That would mean the next game is a indirect sequel (set after the trilogy but has no relation to the plot or characters) and is probably what the next game should be.

[Terca]

Agreed. To make something unrelated to Shepard is a task in and of itself seeing as (s)he has dramatically influenced the Galaxy in the time (s)he was a Spectre. Indirect sequel it might be but then the inevitable debate is which choice at the end of ME3? That path of argument has been tread since people have finished ME3 though.

 

Because you're right, and as others have argued it can't take place in the past and have major impact without inevitably impacting the now rather solid Shepard arc. It has to take place in the future, and the question becomes 'in what kind of world'?

[Revan299s]

Agreed. To make something unrelated to Shepard is a task in and of itself seeing as (s)he has dramatically influenced the Galaxy in the time (s)he was a Spectre. Indirect sequel it might be but then the inevitable debate is which choice at the end of ME3? That path of argument has been tread since people have finished ME3 though.

 

Because you're right, and as others have argued it can't take place in the past and have major impact without inevitably impacting the now rather solid Shepard arc. It has to take place in the future, and the question becomes 'in what kind of world'?

This IS going to be a hard task. I feel like he should at the very least be referenced. I mean look at all the endings. Even if the reapers won, thousands of years later the people knew about 'The Shepard' lol

[Terca]

Shepard I imagine might be mentioned in ways that are rather general. Something like "Today, the first Human Spectre has been named..." So on, so forth.

[Drone223]

I think they should just stick with the Destory ending imo, people will be upset about it but if results in a  good story then I won't complain.

[Terca]

Destroy is the choice which, generally, leads to the most happy endings and will probably be the least morally controversial.

[laudable11]

I always thought it would be a reboot. I think it's highly unlikely now.

If it's only PC and "next gen" only that would be awesome.