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I don't know if this has been asked and this may be a dumb question but is the The Inquisitor an actual believer in the chantry doctrine or are your beliefs something that can be shaped over the course of the game and will this effect the Inquisition as a whole? I was curious since it was confirmed that the elf origin is Dalish and perhaps maybe you could worship other religions like the Qun for example.



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No, you are not forced to worship the chantry. 

 

But just because the way the Qun is set up, you won't be able to be a follower of them either.



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Long and short of it is, we don't know.  It looks like so far we won't be forced to be followers of the Chantry if we're a non-human race. The writers have been lurking around, so they might be able to give an answer that doesn't spoil anything. Most of the posters that have made requests like that want to be able to do so in their own race's religion.  Like the Dalish with the Creators and the Dwarves with the Stone.

 

Also, Veruin is right.  Even if you play a Qunari race, you are not considered a part of the Qun.



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I don't know if this has been asked and this may be a dumb question but is the The Inquisitor an actual believer in the chantry doctrine or are your beliefs something that can be shaped over the course of the game and will this effect the Inquisition as a whole? I was curious since it was confirmed that the elf origin is Dalish and perhaps maybe you could worship other religions like the Qun for example.

I believe it was stated,that the inquisition will be separate from the chantry.An no our qunari inquisitor will actually be a Vasoth,which means while the're not part of the Qun,they do not actively oppose it either.



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Fairly sure you can't be Dalish and follow the Qun, as being dalish requires following the old ways.

 

As for the topic I believe its been stated that the Inquisition isn't forced to be aligned with the Chantry or even believe in the Maker.



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I believe Gaider said something to the effect that the PC will not be strongarmed to believe in the Maker or the Chantry for that matter. Unfortunately that does not mean that the PC will get the opportunity to tear it apart either.


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The "Qunari" PC thus far has been a non Qunari Vashoth unless if the Dev's have changed that.

 

Although there was some concept art leaked a while back about the PC being anointed by the Divine but presumably you can follow whatever faith you wish to.



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Is Andrastian another name for Sith? :P


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I think people should make the distinction between what the Inquisitor can believe in (Dev said the Maker is not forced on you) and what the majority of the Thedasians members of the Inquisition will believe in (the Andrastian faith). The Inquisition's role is not to destroy a religion and its namesake of the past was 100% pro-Maker/Andraste as well (not necessarily pro-Chantry even if they merged).

 

@Master Warder Z_ The Inquisitor was being anointed by Cassandra (and Leliana was also on the stage) not the Divine. Although, the distinction is really small going by how pious both these ladies are and their past link to the Divine.



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I don't know if this has been asked and this may be a dumb question but is the The Inquisitor an actual believer in the chantry doctrine or are your beliefs something that can be shaped over the course of the game and will this effect the Inquisition as a whole? I was curious since it was confirmed that the elf origin is Dalish and perhaps maybe you could worship other religions like the Qun for example.

 

Given the elf racial option being Dalish, I doubt this would be the case. I think the elven Inquisitor being able to express belief in the Creators would be more likely. It would be pointless otherwise.


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I think you can express your belief in whatever you want, but, most of the Inquisition's members will be Andrastian.


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Given the elf racial option being Dalish, I doubt this would be the case. I think the elven Inquisitor being able to express belief in the Creators would be more likely. It would be pointless otherwise.

Yeah I guess that's what I was trying to say more than anything else: will you be able to express belief in other religions while doing your duty as Inquisitor and will that effect how the world views your inquisition since while you may not join something like the Qun or Tevinter but you might be put in a position where you may ally with them thus accepting there beliefs to some degree?



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Yeah I guess that's what I was trying to say more than anything else: will you be able to express belief in other religions while doing your duty as Inquisitor and will that effect how the world views your inquisition since while you may not join something like the Qun or Tevinter but you might be put in a position where you may ally with them thus accepting there beliefs to some degree?

 

In a thread about atheism (at the old board), Gaider said you could express disbelief, and do the opposite, if you so choose. I imagine it would be possible (especially for a Dalish protagonist), although we don't have all the facts at this time, so it's not known for certain.



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Whew, finally found it:

 

David Gaider said:

 

Okay, so. Without going into specifics on the plot of DA3, because I can't do that, I will say the following:

You aren't going to be forced to serve the Chantry or even think it's a good thing. You aren't forced to express belief in the Maker. I said previously we would try to allow options to actively express doubt, if that's your thing, so long as it works in context. You of course will also have the option to do the opposite.

Ultimately, the ability to determine the personality and/or feelings on your own character is one of the fundamental strengths of an RPG, and one that DA is sticking with. Yes, it must also work within the context of the setting and the plot-- you can't do anything-- but that's always been the case with any game, and in the case of DA3 it is not required that you be forced into a certain set of beliefs in order to make it work.

 

Here: http://forum.bioware...ntry/?bioware=1


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Will you be offended if your character can be heard yelling e5025382.png"May Andraste guide you!" or e5025388.png"Give the Maker my regards!" during combat?



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Will you be offended if your character can be heard yelling e5025382.png"May Andraste guide you!" or e5025388.png"Give the Maker my regards!" during combat?

 

That wouldn't make any sense for the Dalish, Dwarven, or Vashoth protagonist who doesn't believe in the Maker. I'd rather the dialogue options and lines fit the character, rather than playing as a re-skinned Andrastian human.


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Will you be offended if your character can be heard yelling e5025382.png"May Andraste guide you!" or e5025388.png"Give the Maker my regards!" during combat?

Not in the least bit,lol. In fact, if we didn't have a choice at all in the matter of religious affiliation it wouldn't bother me at all since the context is understandable but since we have options I was curious on how far you could push and what other people's opinion was.


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HaHa, we are vindicated. No longer will we have to listen to a Hawke going on about the Maker whenever something bad happens.

 

We have cast the shackles of religious tyranny off of our ankles and we are marching towards a chosen destiny.


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As others have mentioned, it has been said you are not forced to be Andrastian... or whatever.

 

However, I certainly plan on being a devout Andrastian in my human, pro-Circle mage playthrough.

 

Edit: Belief in Creators in Dalish rogue playthrough, Andrastian in dwarf warrior, and indifferent or Andrastian for Qunari.



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Whew, finally found it:

 

David Gaider said:

 

Okay, so. Without going into specifics on the plot of DA3, because I can't do that, I will say the following:

You aren't going to be forced to serve the Chantry or even think it's a good thing. You aren't forced to express belief in the Maker. I said previously we would try to allow options to actively express doubt, if that's your thing, so long as it works in context. You of course will also have the option to do the opposite.

Ultimately, the ability to determine the personality and/or feelings on your own character is one of the fundamental strengths of an RPG, and one that DA is sticking with. Yes, it must also work within the context of the setting and the plot-- you can't do anything-- but that's always been the case with any game, and in the case of DA3 it is not required that you be forced into a certain set of beliefs in order to make it work.

 

Here: http://forum.bioware...ntry/?bioware=1

Hmm....those words seem to be walking a fine line there. It seems more like you can be rebellious to a degree but all in all the Inquisition will be Andrastian but you can have doubt similar to DA:O but believing differently will be left to other races I guess. I'm ok with that



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In a thread about atheism (at the old board), Gaider said you could express disbelief, and do the opposite, if you so choose. I imagine it would be possible (especially for a Dalish protagonist), although we don't have all the facts at this time, so it's not known for certain.

 

Didn't he said that atheism don't exist in thedas? (well i don't know how disbelif can't exist but well...)

 

And i hope again i won't be forced to any system belif because im human/qunari/elf i want decide what my character belive as i could in dao so i hope it won't take shitty rpg game route like da 2



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Fairly sure you can't be Dalish and follow the Qun, as being dalish requires following the old ways.
 
As for the topic I believe its been stated that the Inquisition isn't forced to be aligned with the Chantry or even believe in the Maker.

It's been confirmed by Gaider that the elf PC will be dalish.

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Didn't he said that atheism don't exist in thedas? (well i don't know how disbelif can't exist but well...)

 

And i hope again i won't be forced to any system belif because im human/qunari/elf i want decide what my character belive as i could in dao so i hope it won't take shitty rpg game route like da 2

Certainly isn't common. Only examples I can think off the top of my head are Aveline expressing serious doubts and Isabela expressing serious apathy.



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Well, it's badge seems full of Andrastean symbolism.  Sword of Mercy + Sun of the Maker.

 

And in practical terms, the area we're operating in must be 95%+ Andrastean, so it'd be pretty hard to avoid having a basically Andrastean character to the order.



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It's been confirmed by Gaider that the elf PC will be dalish.

 

I think he meant that you can't be Dalish and follow the Qun at the same time, not that you can't be Dalish at all.