How so?
This, I'm dying to hear.
First she have faith spirit that is almost strongest only hope is stronger and corrupted creates pride demon when wynne lost it and went anders/justice/faith mode she went into rampage but she was snaped out before she did damage.
True, but I just wonder if people look at her the same as him? Granted, he couldn't handle it, but is she still an abomination? Or is it different?
By her own words, she's an abomination. As far as the details, she talks with the Warden about that.
Can anyone translate TKS into English please? He's playing so loose and fast with his pronouns that I have no idea what he's talking about.
First she have faith spirit that is almost strongest only hope is stronger and corrupted creates pride demon when wynne lost it and went anders/justice/faith mode she went into rampage but she was snaped out before she did damage.
When did she snap and go into Anders mode? How on earth did she do that? How is she more dangerous than him, what exactly did she do?
When did she snap and go into Anders mode? How on earth did she do that? How is she more dangerous than him, what exactly did she do?
I'm wondering the same thing. The only time that Wynne was even close to that is when the Vessel of the Spirit ability is revealed, and that was against sodding Darkspawn.
By her own words, she's an abomination. As far as the details, she talks with the Warden about that.
Can anyone translate TKS into English please? He's playing so loose and fast with his pronouns that I have no idea what he's talking about.
I mean that in asunder wynne
When did she snap and go into Anders mode? How on earth did she do that? How is she more dangerous than him, what exactly did she do?
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Was he or wasn't he? sure justice/vengance strengthened those characteristics but as i said he was stupid and reckless to merge with spirit pretty much shows that he was dangerous from the beginning and in every case before he never managed to screw something up and as most mages eventually they do and that cost a lot.
As i said he was stupid ,rebelious and reckless and mage that lead to merging with spirit and later to disaster.
Well i would like but if i want get my freedom i would do that in smart way crap even jowan managed to escape and if you help him a little he managed escape for good. And nope it wasn't harmless it ended without causing harm due to luck 8 time wasn't so lucky.Yeah he just merged with spirit and blow up chantry.
justice exists only in your head and every person have own version and he should be punished for that it would end much better. Pretty much anders is walking prove why circles don't work.
You are missing my point, all you are focuseing on is DA2 Anders/Justise.
Chantry law was that a run-away Anders pre-awakining could't be made tranquil because Irving saw Anders for not being dangerus and as he didnt attack the templars that came after him or used blood magic he couldn't be killed.
No she didn't. When did this happen? You're not giving any details.
Yeah, I'm reading Asunder and I have no idea what TKS is talking about. Unless it was letting the spirit go in order to save Evangeline's life, but that's a far cry from allowing a spirit to "get out of control."
No she didn't. When did this happen? You're not giving any details.
I edited and answered above .
You are missing my point, all you are focuseing on is DA2 Anders/Justise.
Chantry law was that a run-away Anders pre-awakining could't be made tranquil because Irving saw Anders for not being dangerus and as he didnt attack the templars that came after him or used blood magic he couldn't be killed.
It doesn't matter daa anders lead to dao 2 and about chantry law if law is so stupid well no suprise that anders and other mages are constantly causing disasters.
Yeah, I'm reading Asunder and I have no idea what TKS is talking about. Unless it was letting the spirit go in order to save Evangeline's life, but that's a far cry from allowing a spirit to "get out of control."
I rly have doubts that you finished asunder
This happens frequently to me.
It doesn't help that his grasp on grammar and punctuation is...lacking at best.
@TKS: Give me the page number where Wynne was supposedly "losing control" of Faith. Page numbers from either Asunder or WoT (I own both now) or I call bullshit.
It doesn't help that his grasp on grammar and punctuation is...lacking at best.
@TKS: Give me the page number where Wynne was supposedly "losing control" of Faith. Page numbers from either Asunder or WoT (I own both now) or I call bullshit.
Samsies.
It doesn't matter daa anders lead to dao 2 and about chantry law if law is so stupid well no suprise that anders and other mages are constantly causing disasters.
Boy you must hate Anders. You could just as well say kill a young and inocent Anders because in a later game he dose something unforgivable ...
Boy you must hate Anders. You could just as well say kill a young and inocent Anders because in a later game he dose something unforgivable ...
That's TKS. He hates all mages and thinks that Thedas should run red with their blood. I'm not assuming anything, I'm going by his colorful post history. Better get used to it now, unfortunately.
It doesn't help that his grasp on grammar and punctuation is...lacking at best.
@TKS: Give me the page number where Wynne was supposedly "losing control" of Faith. Page numbers from either Asunder or WoT (I own both now) or I call bullshit.
Have that frament but damn you if you will complain i had to search for that.
Boy you must hate Anders. You could just as well say kill a young and inocent Anders because in a later game he dose something unforgivable ...
To be honest i don't guy is perfect not only he destroys chantry but also gives me opportunity to turn folks against mages guy is great he provides me benefit i even spared him
That's TKS. He hates all mages and thinks that Thedas should run red with their blood. I'm not assuming anything, I'm going by his colorful post history. Better get used to it now, unfortunately.
To be honest when i want kill mages i don't hate them as i said it is not personal only professional they are dangerous for entire world and well end of the world isn't something good for my characters and mages are parasites from what i saw they destroy a lot providing almost nothing if something at all...
Have that frament but damn you if you will complain i had to search for that.
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Okay, but who did she hurt/kill? How does this add up to what my husband Anders did?
There is one key fact that tends to be forgotten on this thread: Justice may have well been corrupted by the Taint that Anders carries. That could have changed a lot of his/their actions.
http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html
TUK: Can I ask, what effect if any Anders being merged with Justice is going to have on his Calling?DG: Uh...interesting. I'm getting some...okay, it's gone now, I was hearing a mental voice there, it was weird. [laughter] There were some plans to address that but in the end it became very complicated. I think there are a couple possibilities. One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit. I think those are the two most likely outcomes. I'm not going to say which of those we prefer, because Anders can survive DA2 so therefore there's a possibility that we may need him in the future.
Just something to think about while we discuss Anders.
Okay, but who did she hurt/kill? How does this add up to what my husband Anders did?
Well as i said she didn't managed hurt anyone becuase she was pull out from that state (he kicked cole and evageline a** hardly) same as anders was/could be with arlik and mage. You asked if wynne is same case i answered yep.
I asked for a page number, TKS. I'm about to call bullshit unless you give me one. Not assumptions, not paraphrasing from the book, an actual page number. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have one. This is the first I've heard about Wynne "losing control" of Faith and I've been reading the Mage vs Templar threads since November. Not even the most pro-Templar posters has brought that up.
The extract is in pages 354-355. I checked.I asked for a page number, TKS. I'm about to call bullshit unless you give me one. Not assumptions, not paraphrasing from the book, an actual page number. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have one. This is the first I've heard about Wynne "losing control" of Faith and I've been reading the Mage vs Templar threads since November. Not even the most pro-Templar posters has brought that up.
Thank you. Off to read it now.
So...she went ballistic at Cole for a few minutes because she thought he killed Pharamond. That's not nearly the same as blowing up a church with innocent children inside. Plus, it's hinted that the red staff Wynne carried was cursed.
"That staff was evil," Evangeline said. Slowly she got to her feet. "Whatever happened, whatever you plan, it should have never been an option and you know it."
Seems to be that the staff was more to blame for Wynne freaking out rather than Faith. Now I see why pro-Templar posters don't use that situation to back up their case. Just you, TKS.
Well as i said she didn't managed hurt anyone becuase she was pull out from that state (he kicked cole and evageline a** hardly) same as anders was/could be with arlik and mage. You asked if wynne is same case i answered yep.
Anders took away innocent lives and yet he's holier than a woman that not only was selfless enough to give her life for another to live, but just got really angry? Really?
Anders took away innocent lives and yet he's holier than a woman that not only was selfless enough to give her life for another to live, but just got really angry? Really?
Sweetie, this is TKS you're talking to. You should know better than to ask that by now. 
I asked for a page number, TKS. I'm about to call bullshit unless you give me one. Not assumptions, not paraphrasing from the book, an actual page number. I'm beginning to suspect you don't have one. This is the first I've heard about Wynne "losing control" of Faith and I've been reading the Mage vs Templar threads since November. Not even the most pro-Templar posters has brought that up.
It was something 355 when wynne meet cole after rhys is caught and no it is true so i don't know if you read book because it seems you don't.God how annoying i had to search that twice. 
The extract is in pages 354-355. I checked.
lolz why i have page delay? 
Anders took away innocent lives and yet he's holier than a woman that not only was selfless enough to give her life for another to live, but just got really angry? Really?
Well anger and insanity in anger are 2 different things angry you can be when your spouse forgets about your birthday but angry when you start spawm with magical attacks and your eyes turn red well run... and who is talking about morality we are talking about danger not morality...
Sweetie, this is TKS you're talking to. You should know better than to ask that by now.
You're right, and thank you!! I almost let it continue to get to me.
Friends don't let friends get in too deep in debates with TKS 
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