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[DrBlingzle]

With the mage-templar war it's likely that nations will pick sides. maybe only giving a small amount of support or going to outright war with the other side. So what sides do you think the nations of Thedas will pick? Or do you think they will stand by as the war rages on?

 

Below is just what I think is going to happen.

 

Templars

free marches

As shown in DA2 there is strong Templar power in the free marches but this could be changed depending on your actions in DA2. The free marches might even be split on this choice.

Antiva

I think the nobility will be worried that if the mages win then only mages will hold positions of power like in Tevinter so they'll join the Templars.

mages

Tevinter imperium

Tevinter has a lot to gain if the mages win as their chantry will probably become the dominate one and many mages will look to rthem for leadership

Rivain

Already shown hostility against Templars and they show great respect towards mages 

Nevarra

Mages in Nevarra hold more political power than most nation and their power nearly matches that of the magisters in Tevinter

neutral

Orlais

At the moment, due to the civil war, I don't think Orlais is in a state to pick sides. Whichever side Orlais eventually Joins is propably affected by the Inquisitor.

Anderfels

while I think the king would want to side with the Templars I don't think the first warden would want mages wiped out as they make good recruits and are given great respect and importance in the order. 

Ferelden

I put Ferelden in neutral as I have no idea which side they will or wont join. If they do join a side the faction they do join will probably depend on your choices In DAO

 

Of course this is all speculative and I'm aware I could be completely wrong.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think the nations will more likely take a stance of defending their citizens from being caught in the crossfire. 

[LobselVith8]

I think the Inquisitor might be a contributing factor in how some leaders will respond to the schism between the mages and the templars. It might be a factor in choosing between two political leaders as well.

 

Queen Anora and King Alistair expressed support for mage autonomy (via the Magi Boon), so I don't think it's implausible that Ferelden could be swayed to support the local mages governing themselves.

[Knight of Dane]

I hope if the nations have to pick a side, that the choices made in Origins effect Fereldens position.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Predictions huh? Okay.

Templars
Free Marches

Orlais

Mages
None

Neutral
Everyone else.

[DrBlingzle]

I think the nations will more likely take a stance of defending their citizens from being caught in the crossfire. 

Also very likely. At this point I think it's more likely that at least some nations will pick sides because there will be leaders and nobles who see this war as a chance to gain power as well as commoners choosing sides because of their different cultures. 

 

 

 

Queen Anora and King Alistair expressed support for mage autonomy (via the Magi Boon), so I don't think it's implausible that Ferelden could be swayed to support the local mages governing themselves.

Very true. I'd forgotten about that.

Modifié par Drblingzle, 12 mars 2014 - 09:05 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Also very likely. At this point I think it's more likely that at least some nations will pick sides because there will be leaders and nobles who see this war as a chance to gain power as well as commoners choosing sides because of their different cultures. 

Oh, I'm sure the nations will each have a side they are rooting for and may discreetly aid from time to time, but overall will keep the appearance of being neutral in the affair.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think the nations will more likely take a stance of defending their citizens from being caught in the crossfire. 

You too?  Then again, we tend to think a lot alike on many subjects.

 

I think some folks are putting far more significance in this whole debate than what's going to be in the actual game.  My hunch is that we'll be dealing with other politics and other wars that'll make this look like a drop in the ocean.   

[Sir JK]

Neither.

 

Since both the templars abd mages have split of the Chantry, the powers that be have no interest in supporting either side. There'll be factions within the kingdoms supporting one or the other, but the nations themselves will only involve themselves if they're dragged into it. There's simply nothing to gain by supporting one or the other, but a lot to lose. Backing the losing side would be very costly and the nobility and royalty will have relatives on both sides.

 

There'll be empty words of support, false assurances of loyalty, reminders on what not to do but the states won't involve themselves. Except possibly if the sides ask them for help... and then it'll be costly.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You too?  Then again, we tend to think a lot alike on many subjects.

 

I think some folks are putting far more significance in this whole debate than what's going to be in the actual game.  My hunch is that we'll be dealing with other politics and other wars that'll make this look like a drop in the ocean.   

Indeed.

 

And yeah, I think the nations will be having their own issues to deal with, like Orlais's civil war or Ferelden's rebuilding after the Blight.

[Divine Justinia V]

I think if it really had to come down to it, [I think] Ferelden would protect the Mages. Whether Alistair or Anora is crowned, they both seem to really be progressive leaders.

Otherwise, they'd be neutral.

[Sir JK]

I think if it really had to come down to it, [I think] Ferelden would protect the Mages. Whether Alistair or Anora is crowned, they both seem to really be progressive leaders.

Otherwise, they'd be neutral.

 

Remember... in Ferelden the monarch can only do what the Bannorn allows them to do. And the Bannorn is a conservative lot.

[Divine Justinia V]

Remember... in Ferelden the monarch can only do what the Bannorn allows them to do. And the Bannorn is a conservative lot.

 

True, I forgot about that.

 

Now all of my hopes and dream are crushed.

[Knight of Dane]

The Bannorn is also influenced by land and cash. if they won't join the fight for the glory of King Cousland maybe the promise of more land will sway them.

[LobselVith8]

I think if it really had to come down to it, [I think] Ferelden would protect the Mages. Whether Alistair or Anora is crowned, they both seem to really be progressive leaders.

Otherwise, they'd be neutral.

 

It is mentioned that King Alistair protected mages from templars, when Meredith and Alistair are arguing in Act III. Otherwise (pro-Magi Boon) Meredith condemns the King for supporting mage autonomy.

[Iron Fist]

Orlais will probably be neutral, since its resources will likely be going towards its domestic conflicts (elf rebellion and civil war).

 

Nevarra and Ferelden will probably side with the templars.

 

The Free Marches will be divided, but I guarantee several of its cities will be pro-mage (since it has several Circles).

[Oohforf]

Honestly, I don't really see many nations taking a side in this conflict as it doesn't really have much to do with them politically. And it may just be political suicide to go against the Divine. If they do, I think it would have to do with rulers saving their ass(ets) within their own borders opposed to going on the offensive in foreign countries if it even comes to that. The most I can see some nations doing is supporting the sides in small ways, either through monetary means or some expeditions.

 

That being said, I can see them being forced to act (as if some nations haven't already) as a unified force against the Mages (or templars) if the respective groups decide to turn against all of Thedas in some way.

[Master Warder Z_]

Predictions huh? Okay.

Templars
Free Marches

Orlais

Mages
None

Neutral
Everyone else.

 

Pretty much my stance on it as well.

[Master Warder Z_]

Orlais will probably be neutral, since its resources will likely be going towards its domestic conflicts (elf rebellion and civil war).

 

Nevarra and Ferelden will probably side with the templars.

 

The Free Marches will be divided, but I guarantee several of its cities will be pro-mage (since it has several Circles).

 

Only three of them remains by the end of DA 2.

 

Markham, Ansburg and Ostwick, Nothing however is mentioned of any of these cities being particularly "Pro Mage"

[Cainhurst Crow]

Even the free marches being in support of anyone is a bit of a stretch, as well as the orlais come to think of it.

Really I think everyone wants as far away from this war as they can get.

[Iron Fist]

Only three of them remains by the end of DA 2.

 

Markham, Ansburg and Ostwick, Nothing however is mentioned of any of these cities being particularly "Pro Mage"

 

There's no central government in the Free Marches. Mages could easily take over a city.

 

And what about my opinion on Orlais?

[Grieving Natashina]

Even the free marches being in support of anyone is a bit of a stretch, as well as the orlais come to think of it.

Really I think everyone wants as far away from this war as they can get.

That's some of the best common sense I've read on this subject in awhile.

[AresKeith]

Pretty sure the Nations are staying out of it

[Master Warder Z_]

Even the free marches being in support of anyone is a bit of a stretch, as well as the orlais come to think of it.

Really I think everyone wants as far away from this war as they can get.

 

Orlais is the center of power of the order last we heard though, It supposedly maintained the largest gathering of forces of the Templars, By Martial Capabilities alone you figure it would warrant support over the mages just to be done with the conflict. Add in Chantry Doctrine and i think a lot of people would overlook the Templars in their little war if not supporting it with resources.

 

But by and large i'd agree most nations would be neutral, i just think given Orlais stance on its current crisis they would support the likely victor of the conflict within their own realm merely for it not to blow over in their faces.

[Master Warder Z_]

There's no central government in the Free Marches. Mages could easily take over a city.

 

And what about my opinion on Orlais?

 

And them violently deposing the ruling Lord somehow endears the Marchers to their cause?