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[Mcfly616]

Yeah. I can see it as maybe this: 

 

Asari: Female only (all Female race)

Human: Male and Female available

Salarian: Male only (Females don't leave Sur'Kesh)

Turians: Male and Female available

 

That's a total of 6 body types and 4 backgrounds, less than DAI has so within their capabilities.

 

And if they want to equal the options DAI had:

Quarians: Male and Female available

 

For a total of 8 body types and 5 backgrounds. 

 I could see them going Human (male or female), Asari (same female VA as human), Turian male (same VA as human male).  This way they can really focus on them being well done within the narrative instead of spreading themselves too thin.

[Han Yolo]

I thought the protagonist is gonna be Alliance N7? So that's actually not confirmed?

[Han Shot First]

I thought the protagonist is gonna be Alliance N7? So that's actually not confirmed?

 

That will most likely be the case. One of the released pieces of concept art was someone wearing armor with the N7 logo. I don't think they've confirmed yet however whether there will be multiple playable races or a set human protagonist.

[General TSAR]

Human Pride, also I really hope we won't be an Alliance or Council lackey again.

 

Also a civilian this time.

[Tex]

A question to those who might like to play as non-human: Would you be satisfied if the game severely restricts your character's appearance options in the CC?The devs will have x budget to spend on the character creator and armor customization - more species options can necessitate fewer appearance customization options per species.I think some people have a lot of fun creating unique looking PCs, though others seem perfectly content with a default. You might have only a couple of, for example, turian face patterns from which to choose.

I personally would be okay with this if it meant I could play an Asari or or female Turian I got quiet attached to my female Turian in mass effect 3's multiplayer.

[Han Shot First]

Human Pride, also I really hope we won't be an Alliance or Council lackey again.

 

Also a civilian this time.

 

The problem with a civilian protagonist is that the character shouldn't have any combat skills, or be in command of a warship.

 

Unless by civilian you mean a mercenary, a pirate, C-Sec, or something along those lines. 

[GreyWarden_Smith]

Human N7 operative, sent out to possibly explore parts of the galaxy unexplored.

 

Set pre-Mass Effect 3 (possibly during 1 & 2 where Commander Shepard is away/dead). It's going to be hard to be set after Mass effect 3 due their endings unless to takes place where ending don't effect the protagonist IMO.

[Han Yolo]

I wanna be a space pirate.

[Wulfram]

The problem with a civilian protagonist is that the character shouldn't have any combat skills, or be in command of a warship.
 
Unless by civilian you mean a mercenary, a pirate, C-Sec, or something along those lines.

Though a marine really shouldn't be command of a warship anyway. Also the game never really seemed to know what to do with a warship - at best it got to be an oversized fighter for Joker to fly around, at worst it was a very fancy taxi service.


And people seem pretty accepting of civilians who turn out to be ridiculously effective combatants when the occasion arrives. Like Liara and Tali, for example.

[Han Shot First]

Though a marine really shouldn't be command of a warship anyway. Also the game never really seemed to know what to do with a warship - at best it got to be an oversized fighter for Joker to fly around, at worst it was a very fancy taxi service.


And people seem pretty accepting of civilians who turn out to be ridiculously effective combatants when the occasion arrives. Like Liara and Tali, for example.

 

Liara got a good deal of criticism when Mass Effect 1 was first released for that reaspm actually. Some thought she shouldn't have been on the team because she had no prior military background, and there were some who argued Shiala should have been recruited instead. While Liara is one of my favorite characters in the series, I can't say that I completely disagree. I was always thought that the writers should have given Liara a prior military background - say for example a few years in the Asari military to pay for university after the falling out with Benezia. Like Garrus or Wrex (also civilians) she'd then at least have some prior experience that explains her competence in combat.

 

Tali was criticized for similar reasons, though a little less than Liara, as it was assumed that all Quarians get some degree of military training considering their unique circumstances.

 

Mass Effect is a little odd in how it handles the Alliance as a military organization, in that it doesn't have different branches of military service. The functions of an Army or Air Force have all been rolled into the Navy, with Marines being an occupational field within the Alliance Navy rather than a separate branch of service. So Shepard is both a Marine and a Navy officer simultaneously. I just head canon that he went through some sort of specialized school for fleet command after he entered the N7 program. 

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Liara got a good deal of criticism when Mass Effect 1 was first released for that reaspm actually. Some thought she shouldn't have been on the team because she had no prior military background, and there were some who argued Shiala should have been recruited instead. While Liara is one of my favorite characters in the series, I can't say that I completely disagree. I was always thought that the writers should have given Liara a prior military background - say for example a few years in the Asari military to pay for university after the falling out with Benezia. Like Garrus or Wrex (also civilians) she'd then at least have some prior experience that explains her competence in combat.

 

Tali was criticized for similar reasons, though a little less than Liara, as it was assumed that all Quarians get some degree of military training considering their unique circumstances.

 

Mass Effect is a little odd in how it handles the Alliance as a military organization, in that it doesn't have different branches of military service. The functions of an Army or Air Force have all been rolled into the Navy, with Marines being an occupational field within the Alliance Navy rather than a separate branch of service. So Shepard is both a Marine and a Navy officer simultaneously. I just head canon that he went through some sort of specialized school for fleet command after he entered the N7 program. 

 

Liara was the team in ME1 for her knowledge on Protheans and being Benezia's daughter and Tali because her knowledge on the geth. Also Liara does have at least basic combat training in ME1 she states that she's had run ins with mercs and dangerous wild life on previous digs. 

 

The Alliance is supposed to be the fusion of the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force. 

[Han Shot First]

 

 Also Liara does have at least basic combat training in ME1 she states that she's had run ins with mercs and dangerous wild life on previous digs. 

 

 

I'm aware of that, but I always though that was a relatively weak explanation for her combat prowess. It wouldn't compare to military training.

 

A soldier in any modern Western army for example is going to be more competent than the average guerrilla in Syria, who while experienced, lacks the same level of training. 

[Wulfram]

Those Syrians can't flay you alive with their minds, though. Liara is I believe the only character with no weapons skills in ME1 (Kaidan's class ability boosts pistols), so you could say that her lack of training is reflected by that.

Ex-military could be a good option for the protagonist. And then leave it to the player to decide how much they go in for "once a marine, always a marine". Or if the game does turn out to be set in the aftermath of the Reaper War, it'd be easy enough to justify any character having got combat experience there.

[Han Shot First]

I wanna be a space pirate.

 

A space pirate would be a lot of fun just in how different the protagonist would be from Shepard, and in the atmosphere aboard your ship.

 

Instead of paragon/renegade the choice would probably be to play either as the charming rogue or the Terror of the Terminus. And instead of commanding a warship representing the bleeding edge of the most highly advanced military technology, operated by a well-trained and disciplined crew of military professionals, you'd be in command of a somewhat beat up and lived in freighter-turned-suped-up-raider, manned by a motley crew of undisciplined, surly, and unprofessional cutthroats, vagabonds, and mercenaries. 

 

And unlike the Shepard trilogy you probably wouldn't have the automatic loyalty of your crew. These people would only be signed on for the promise of profit. That could lead to some interesting interaction with your crew if you had to worry about facing mutiny should you fail to meet expectations.

 

And some of the aspects common to the genre would be fun if ported to the Mass Effect series. The main plot being linked to a buried treasure? (Prothean artifacts?) Walking the plank (someone getting spaced), marooning (someone dumped on a hostile uncharted world), eye patches in character customization? 

 

Would buy. 

[Mcfly616]

We can only hope the next protagonist is discharged from N7 early on in the next game. Then it's onto fulfilling our space-pirating fantasies. 

[Han Yolo]

A space pirate would be a lot of fun just in how different the protagonist would be from Shepard, and in the atmosphere aboard your ship.

 

Instead of paragon/renegade the choice would probably be to play either as the charming rogue or the Terror of the Terminus. And instead of commanding a warship representing the bleeding edge of the most highly advanced military technology, operated by a well-trained and disciplined crew of military professionals, you'd be in command of a somewhat beat up and lived in freighter-turned-suped-up-raider, manned by a motley crew of undisciplined, surly, and unprofessional cutthroats, vagabonds, and mercenaries. 

 

And unlike the Shepard trilogy you probably wouldn't have the automatic loyalty of your crew. These people would only be signed on for the promise of profit. That could lead to some interesting interaction with your crew if you had to worry about facing mutiny should you fail to meet expectations.

 

And some of the aspects of common to the genre would be fun if ported to the Mass Effect series. The main plot being linked to a buried treasure? (Prothean artifacts?) Walking the plank (someone getting spaced), marooning (someone dumped on a hostile uncharted world), eye patches in character customization? 

 

Would buy. 

 

This post is full of win. And not only because of the eye patches. Bioware, heed his words.

[Heimdall]

Those Syrians can't flay you alive with their minds, though. Liara is I believe the only character with no weapons skills in ME1 (Kaidan's class ability boosts pistols), so you could say that her lack of training is reflected by that.

Ex-military could be a good option for the protagonist. And then leave it to the player to decide how much they go in for "once a marine, always a marine". Or if the game does turn out to be set in the aftermath of the Reaper War, it'd be easy enough to justify any character having got combat experience there.

Correct me if I'm remembering my Codex entries wrong, but don't the Asari have mandatory military service for a period?

I remember because it specifically mentioned that the few Asari born without biotic ability were excluded from that requirement.

In which case Liara would have some basic training, at least.

[Wulfram]

Correct me if I'm remembering my Codex entries wrong, but don't the Asari have mandatory military service for a period?

I remember because it specifically mentioned that the few Asari born without biotic ability were excluded from that requirement.

In which case Liara would have some basic training, at least.

I don't think they have mandatory military service. The codex says

"The average asari huntress is in the maiden stage of her life and has devoted 20–30 years to studying the martial arts. Asari choose to be warriors at a young age, and their education from that point is dedicated to sharpening the mind and body for that sole purpose. When they retire, they possess an alarming proficiency for killing.

Huntresses fight individually or in pairs, depending on the tactics preferred in their town. One-on-one, a huntress is practically unbeatable, possessing profound tactical insight, a hunter's eye, and a dancer's grace and alacrity. Biotics are common enough that some capability is a requirement to be trained as a huntress; lack of biotic talent excludes a young asari from military service. "

IIRC Liara does mention in ME3 that the use of Biotics is part of the Asari school curriculum. Which I find a little odd for a race that's generally characterised as peaceful.

[mrjack]

Piracy sounds like fun in theory but I'm a sucker for playing paragon and playing out my hero fantasies. In ME, I get to play a much better man than I am in real life, someone strong, brave and selfless. If they can incorporate that into being a pirate then I'm all for it but I have to wonder how that sort of man (or woman) would have ended up as a pirate in the first place. It's basically a violent form of theft which I find hard to justify. They would have to make him into some Robin Hood type to make it palatable for paragon players. Also, I would still need the PC to get drawn into something larger and more important than highway (spaceway?) robbery. I do think the story should be smaller than "The whole galaxy is in peril!!" but it has to be important enough for me to care.

 

So I'm not against the idea, just wary of how it would go down.

[Pasquale1234]

Liara got a good deal of criticism when Mass Effect 1 was first released for that reaspm actually. Some thought she shouldn't have been on the team because she had no prior military background, and there were some who argued Shiala should have been recruited instead. While Liara is one of my favorite characters in the series, I can't say that I completely disagree. I was always thought that the writers should have given Liara a prior military background - say for example a few years in the Asari military to pay for university after the falling out with Benezia. Like Garrus or Wrex (also civilians) she'd then at least have some prior experience that explains her competence in combat.

Tali was criticized for similar reasons, though a little less than Liara, as it was assumed that all Quarians get some degree of military training considering their unique circumstances.

I always headcanoned that Ashley ('every marine a rifleman, every rifleman zee-gee certified') worked with newly recruited squadmates to not only issue their weaponry, but also get them firearm certified where applicable, and that Kaidan worked with them wrt effective use of tech and biotic skills in combat. I also headcanoned that the squad had briefings to discuss mission goals, expected resistance, and strategies prior to every mission and debriefings to talk about what went right / wrong and how to improve following each mission. Finally, I didn't take Tali or Liara on the first few missions after their recruitment, giving them some training time. As both are exceptionally bright and disciplined individuals, they caught on quickly. 

[Pasquale1234]

IIRC Liara does mention in ME3 that the use of Biotics is part of the Asari school curriculum. Which I find a little odd for a race that's generally characterised as peaceful.

 

Untrained biotic ability can be dangerous - IIRC, Kaidan made some comments about the first human biotics needing to first learn how not to break their own limbs.  I feel like Liara has an elevator comment where she says that some asari, herself included, train their biotics more than others.  Since Liara went out on digs in potentially hostile environments, I would expect she might have taken more training than the average non-military asari.

 

Also - biotic skills have applications outside of combat - self-defense, moving furniture, etc.
 

[Robert Cousland]

Would it bother any of you if the main character were British?

[StealthGamer92]

Piracy sounds like fun in theory but I'm a sucker for playing paragon and playing out my hero fantasies. In ME, I get to play a much better man than I am in real life, someone strong, brave and selfless. If they can incorporate that into being a pirate then I'm all for it but I have to wonder how that sort of man (or woman) would have ended up as a pirate in the first place. It's basically a violent form of theft which I find hard to justify. They would have to make him into some Robin Hood type to make it palatable for paragon players. Also, I would still need the PC to get drawn into something larger and more important than highway (spaceway?) robbery. I do think the story should be smaller than "The whole galaxy is in peril!!" but it has to be important enough for me to care.

 

So I'm not against the idea, just wary of how it would go down.

If not a true pirate a rogue like Malcom Reynolds or Han would do. Acts like a coldhearted outlaw but a heart of gold underneath.

[Wulfram]

I think the key to making a good "paragon" pirate is to have their targets be sufficiently bad. If you're, for example, attacking Slavers and freeing the captives, you're definitely the good guy.

Evil colonial empire types can make a good targets for "privateers" too, though I'm not sure that'd fit into the galaxy as we know it.

[Vazgen]

If we're talking about ideals, I'd prefer multiple origins with different starting points like in DA: O, except not for the races but for different backgrounds. A pirate starts in one place, a shipwrecked survivor in another, a soldier in some different place either. And they all then converge in one location. A pirate enters a port to replenish supplies, survivor catches a ship that heads to the same port, a soldier is on the shore leave in the same port. The port is attacked...