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So, the thing is, I was thinking about the High dragon in Andraste temple and I started to wonder. 

 

Is there truly any point in killing the creature? She is nothing like the High dragon in the Bone Pitt slaughtering dozens of people. The High dragon there is just chilling up on a mountain in an very remote location. Killing her is starting to feel really pointless and if there is one thing I don't like is hunting and killing for sport.

 

Apart for killing the High dragon just for the sake of killing her, is there any reason to fight her? Or should I just leave her alone?


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Loot. The reason for killing anything.


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So, the thing is, I was thinking about the High dragon in Andraste temple and I started to wonder. 

 

Is there truly any point in killing the creature? She is nothing like the High dragon in the Bone Pitt slaughtering dozens of people. The High dragon there is just chilling up on a mountain in an very remote location. Killing her is starting to feel really pointless and if there is one thing I don't like is hunting and killing for sport.

 

Apart for killing the High dragon just for the sake of killing her, is there any reason to fight her? Or should I just leave her alone?

 

It's been a long time since I played, but I seem to recall there being evidence around that someone had been feeding the drakes/dragonlings.  I may be mixing it up with DA2.

 

Either way, whether you do or don't is a roleplaying choice.  She'll give you lots of loot and experience and a challenging battle.  But, if your character doesn't feel that she's a threat to anyone, and doesn't care about the glory of slaying a high dragon, then why would you do it?  Of course, she might not be a threat now, but high dragons can travel a very long way to get to new hunting grounds--they are winged, after all.  And, with all of their dragonlings and drakes, they'd probably hit a hunting ground very hard and have to move in short order, or prey would become too sparse to survive.



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I think I've killed her twice and then just left her alone after that. The dragon scales are good for armor, but dragon scale is not at all necessary. The other reason I leave her alone is a bit of meta-gaming. If she lives, then the Temple doesn't get deluged by pilgrims.


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So, the thing is, I was thinking about the High dragon in Andraste temple and I started to wonder. 

 

Is there truly any point in killing the creature? She is nothing like the High dragon in the Bone Pitt slaughtering dozens of people. The High dragon there is just chilling up on a mountain in an very remote location. Killing her is starting to feel really pointless and if there is one thing I don't like is hunting and killing for sport.

 

Apart for killing the High dragon just for the sake of killing her, is there any reason to fight her? Or should I just leave her alone?

If you spare the ashes yet don't kill the High Dragon, Genitivi can never get people to the ashes for an expedition and later pilgrimages. 



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If you intend to spread the news as to where the Temple is? Then yes, there's a very good reason to make sure it's not inhabited by a giant monster.


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I think you've got it the wrong way around. Leaving the dragon alive is the only way to ensure the safety of the ashes, short of killing Genitivi (since you cannot threaten him into keeping shtum). Otherwise the temple will be turned into a fraud factory by the Chantry, a la Lourdes.



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Unless you get meta about the endgames, there's no real reason to kill the High Dragon unless your character thinks they were hunted to (near) extinction for a reason.



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If you kill it you get a lot of goodies even dragon scale to bring to Wade to make armor for you here's the details


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I think the OP knows that, he's just wondering if there's a good reason to kill it that's not for looting the corpse and turning its hide into boots ;)



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Hanako Ikezawa

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I have to admit the first time I fought the High Dragon was an accident. I saw the gong and being my first playthrough you just have to click on anything you can. Next thing I know I'm fighting the dragon.



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My wardens generally go after every dragon they can find. They see it as practice. Flemeth tells you the arch demon is supposed to be a corrupted old god (ie really big dragon). So my wardens hunt the dragons as a way of gaining insight into how to kill the blasted things.


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My wardens generally go after every dragon they can find. They see it as practice. Flemeth tells you the arch demon is supposed to be a corrupted old god (ie really big dragon). So my wardens hunt the dragons as a way of gaining insight into how to kill the blasted things.

In my case, for the XP, and yes, for practice. If you spare the dragon, the ashes are protected. If you kill the dragon the ashes disappear.


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DarthGizka

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All my Wardens ever wanted was to talk things over, really. But the critter always attacked on sight, in an act of suicidal folly...


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I think you've got it the wrong way around. Leaving the dragon alive is the only way to ensure the safety of the ashes, short of killing Genitivi (since you cannot threaten him into keeping shtum). Otherwise the temple will be turned into a fraud factory by the Chantry, a la Lourdes.

I was referring to making it safe for the Chantry. If on the other hand, you don't want them to have the Temple, you probably oughtn't kill the dragon. (Though I don't know what happens to the Urn in that scenario.)



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If the Dragon armor Wade sells in Awakening was equal or better than the one he makes from the High Dragon, i'd be ok with leaving it alone. Unfortunately the Awakenings dragon armor is inferior-it only has fire resistance. Wade does his best work on the High Dragon, and what comes after isn't quite as good.

 

I think the dragon only attacks on sight on PC. On console, you have to hit the gong to initiate the fight with the dragon.



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^That is very true, but why would you want to use Wade's Dragonscale Armor set in awakening?

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^That is very true, but why would you want to use Wade's Dragonscale Armor set in awakening?

Same reason you want to hold onto the Lifegiver Ring, or maybe Cailans Armor set as well. In a lot of cases, the items in awakening aren't as good as some of the main items in origins. it took me a long time to swap out ring of ages, and I only did that once I was able to make the top tier elemental runes on armor.I never was able to find a robe as good as Reaper's Vestments.One thing was a bit disappointing-I couldn't find many lightning damage items.

 

Regarding the dragon armor, the new armors use a lot of fatigue. Higher strength minimums, a lot more fatigue as well.Mana/Stamina isn't much of a issue in Awakenings with Clarity, but a few of the talents can have pretty high penalties to stamina/mana regeneration. Good protection, excellent fatigue reduction, good stamina regeneration-I don't recall seeing a equivalent armor set. You can enchant armor to reduce fatigue, but the runes are only -5% each.



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The PC "Andraste" High dragon only attacks if you use Kolgrim's horn. Otherwise, it leaves the warden party alone.



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In my case, for the XP, and yes, for practice. If you spare the dragon, the ashes are protected. If you kill the dragon the ashes disappear.

This isn't quite right. If you spare the dragon, the urn disappears even though a search is made for it. The conclusion in this case is that the ashes are probably just a rumor. If you kill the dragon AND spare Genetivi, the Chantry sets up pilgrimages for the ashes.



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I thought it read that the dragon does not let anyone near the place if it is spared. If it is killed, the ashes disappear and thought of to only be rumor. Guess I need to read the epilogue slides closer next time :D



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I found getting Wades Plate armor very helpful in Awakening when fighting mages who fire bomb you.
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Sometimes I go to fight the High Dragon at a higher level and come prepared with legendary gear, balm, salves and properly set tactics and all. When I reach the mountain top, I realise that I forgot Kolgrim's horn.


@ Mike3207 - This is about Arcane warrior I guess? Warriors don't really need fatigue redution or stamina regen. Death blow practically means an infinite stamina pool, and second wind on top of that. Mix matching armor pieces provides heavy boost to the primary stats for a warrior.
Rogues don't need heavy armor; Legionnaire scouts can safely go through the game in their smallclothes. Battledress would increase dex by the greatest amount.
Even mages who are blood mage-arcane warrior don't need a high mana pool. Anything related to blood is bugged in awakening and hardly drains anything compared to Origins. Even for non blood mages, I think shimmering shield is unnecessary unless the mage is the primary tank. And if it's heavy spellcasting you are after, you wouldn't wear armor or repear's vestments in the first place; rather something like Spellminder or the Vestments of the Seer that increases spellpower and mana. If you are soloing or tanking, than I can surely see the need to have the mana regen bonus from Wade's set. Though even in this case, depending upon the player's needs, there are other options like let's say using dweomer runes and swapping spellward for nature's blessing.

What I mean to say is that we can't really rate the best equipments in terms of just one criterion, even in origins to some extent. As an example, Evon's Mail/Wade's combo is probably one of the, if not the, best all round armor set for a warrior, but it's still inferior to something like the Warden Commander's Breastplate, Cailan's Gauntlets and Cadash Stompers combo when damage dealing is concerned. Nice to have perspective, just saying!
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I thought it read that the dragon does not let anyone near the place if it is spared. If it is killed, the ashes disappear and thought of to only be rumor. Guess I need to read the epilogue slides closer next time :D

Here are 3 of the closing slides for the urn:
 

Spoiler

 
I think this is where your confusion might be... in the last set of circumstances. ^_^


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I think you've got it the wrong way around. Leaving the dragon alive is the only way to ensure the safety of the ashes, short of killing Genitivi (since you cannot threaten him into keeping shtum). Otherwise the temple will be turned into a fraud factory by the Chantry, a la Lourdes.

 

 

Actually there is another way. I don't let the brother Genitivi come to the temple. I take the key and tell him to go back. Leliana complains and I get a persuasion check " I don't want to be responsible for his death?" She backs down no negative points.

 

 

This makes sense because the brother would have stayed at the temple while you move on. That could have made him an easy target and Leliana would have been needed to fight with the Warden. I kill the dragon solo for XP. In this ending they can't find the ashes.

 

In my ending the dragon is gone and the following happens: 

 

If Brother Genitivi does not come with the main character while killing cultists the Urn will also disappear.

 

The High Dragon offers a high loot drop. The decisions is xp and loot. I do have to say I agree there is no reason to kill her other than the challenge and loot. I won't kill her anymore. She is an endangered species. 


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