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[LobselVith8]

According to Nathaniel, the First Warden was doing some digging around the Primeval Thaig. I smell an alliance!

Only if the Mad Hermit turned out to be the First Warden.

[Hellion Rex]

Only if the Mad Hermit turned out to be the First Warden.

Huh? You lost me.

[Loghain Mac-Tir]

According to Nathaniel, the First Warden was doing some digging around the Primeval Thaig. I smell an alliance!

 

Unless the First Warden is a short dude who can shoot electricity from his fingers, that wouldn't make much sense

 

Maybe someone gave it to them?

 

A wizard gave it to them, Which is tragically Ironic.

[The Elder King]

Only if the Mad Hermit turned out to be the First Warden.

Why? Do you think it's unplausible that the Wardens (or at least some of them) could be antagonists in DAI?

[Master Warder Z_]

Why? Do you think it's unplausible that the Wardens (or at least some of them) could be antagonists in DAI?

 

I agree with this notion.

 

The Wardens can do a lot of things to combat the threat of Darkspawn.

 

And plus they occasionally get dragged into politics and try to depose sovereign monarchs.

[Loghain Mac-Tir]

Why? Do you think it's unplausible that the Wardens (or at least some of them) could be antagonists in DAI?

 

First-Warden is described as a smart man with great political sense , Supplying Super-Steroids to Always Chaotic Evil Mooks does not seem like his M.O.

[Hellion Rex]

I agree with this notion.

 

The Wardens can do a lot of things to combat the threat of Darkspawn.

 

And plus they occasionally get dragged into politics and try to depose sovereign monarchs.

Indeed. The First Warden is only a figure head cause he's so busy dealing with Anderfels nobility and politics.

[Cainhurst Crow]

 

A wizard gave it to them, Which is tragically Ironic.

 

I blame Aizen. It's obviously his plot to take over the fade.

[Hellion Rex]

First-Warden is described as a smart man with great political sense , Supplying Super-Steroids to Always Chaotic Evil Mooks does not seem like his M.O.

Based on what evidence exactly do you draw these conclusions?

[renfrees]

Maybe someone gave it to them?

I knew it was Flemeth!

[The Elder King]

First-Warden is described as a smart man with great political sense , Supplying Super-Steroids to Always Chaotic Evil Mooks does not seem like his M.O.

Where did he was described as a smart man? From what I know he's described as an ambitious man with political goal. That doesn't mean he's smart.
Regardless, the FW is irrelevant. I didn't say that he ordered anything other than explore the thaig: the local Wardens might've acted indipendently.

[EmissaryofLies]

What if Shale is leading the red templars?

 

She could have gotten some of it embedded in her. 

 

Assuming she hasn't become a dwarf again.

 

Now that would be a sight. A pigeon crushin', mage hatin' wrecking ball that can't be stopped.

[The Elder King]

I blame Aizen. It's obviously his plot to take over the fade.

I support this theory.

[Master Warder Z_]

I blame Aizen. It's obviously his plot to take over the fade.

 

I just want the material world, he can have that blasted realm of ghosts and demons.

 

Just stay out of my Palace!

 

Just because it turned black doesn't mean i still don't owe those Filipino's another two millennium's work on it!

[renfrees]

Uh, jokes aside. Considering the vivid discussion my post made, do you guys never asked the same question before? It was the first one, that came into my mind, when i've heard of Red Templars - so much RL does not exist, unless RT are exceedingly rare.

[Loghain Mac-Tir]

Based on what evidence exactly do you draw these conclusions?

 

I might have overstated a wee bit,(damn you for calling me out)

But, He is a very important political figure in Anderfels (Anders' Home nation), so he can't be completely lunatic or politically inept. And I think we can all agree that supplying mind-screwy superpower drug to homicidal maniacs is a bad thing, right?

[EmissaryofLies]

With the veil tear and the world supposedly ending, it's hardly difficult to fathom.

[The Elder King]

I might have overstated a wee bit,(damn you for calling me out)
But, He is a very important political figure in Anderfels (Anders' Home nation), so he can't be completely lunatic or politically inept. And I think we can all agree that supplying mind-screwy superpower drug to homicidal maniacs is a bad thing, right?

He's an important figure because the local king is weak, and the Warden are massively popular (and needed).
I'm not saying he's an idiot, but we have no evidence otherwise.
And he doesn't have to support the Reds. The local Wardens might.

[Hellion Rex]

I might have overstated a wee bit,(damn you for calling me out)

But, He is a very important political figure in Anderfels (Anders' Home nation), so he can't be completely lunatic or politically inept. And I think we can all agree that supplying mind-screwy superpower drug to homicidal maniacs is a bad thing, right?

Trust me. Smarter people have probably done worse things in Thedas. Just because he is smart and politically savvy doesn't mean that he couldn't be an antagonist.

[LobselVith8]

Huh? You lost me.

Given what red lyrium does to a person, I don't see the Wardens allying with the Red Templars.

[The Elder King]

Given what red lyrium does to a person, I don't see the Wardens allying with the Red Templars.

What if the local Wardens are mind-controlled by Corypheus?

[EmissaryofLies]

What if the local Wardens are mind-controlled by Corypheus?

 

What would Cory want with Red Templars though?

[LobselVith8]

Why? Do you think it's unplausible that the Wardens (or at least some of them) could be antagonists in DAI?

I think the First Warden is more concerned with the throne of the Anderfels and the darkspawn; I don't think allying with insane monstrosities is high on his list.

[Loghain Mac-Tir]

He's an important figure because the local king is weak, and the Warden are massively popular (and needed).
I'm not saying he's an idiot, but we have no evidence otherwise.
And he doesn't have to support the Reds. The local Wardens might.

 

Agreed

But could we just stop calling them 'Reds', really anything else will do

 

Trust me. Smarter people have probably done worse things in Thedas. Just because he is smart and politically savvy doesn't mean that he couldn't be an antagonist.

 

But if we assume that FW is a smart person or at the very least not a crazy one, what would be his motivation for creating RT, they can't be reasoned with, so they can't be controlled.