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[Ugly_Duck_01]

How do I make Triggers for Overland Map encounters like in SoZ?  That are primarily for spawning overland map hostile creature encounters, like a band of trolls attacking the PC?

[Dann-J]

I'm pretty sure OLM encounters are spawned via the area HB script, rather than via triggers.

[Ugly_Duck_01]

Anyone know how to set up this thing?  HB script for area, Triggers or whatever?

[Ugly_Duck_01]

Somebody?  Anybody know?

[kamal_]

Obsidian OM tutorial. Other OM tutorials. Take apart the SoZ OM. Why reinvent the wheel?

[rjshae]

What you need to do is peruse the scripts in SoZ and figure out how they work--particularly the OnClientSpawn and Heartbeat scripts, IIRC. The encounters are specified in a set of .2da files, so you can modify those and make your own additions.

[Dann-J]

Obsidian OM tutorial. Other OM tutorials. Take apart the SoZ OM. Why reinvent the wheel?

 

I often find myself re-coding things from scratch, if only to get them working the way I want them to. The various SoZ OLM scripts are so inter-dependent that you pretty much have to use either all of them or none of them. The OLM in my current module is a cut-down version that omits the features I didn't like, and includes new features of my own (hunting, horses, active searching/tracking, localised weather conditions, etc).

[Ugly_Duck_01]

I've been trying to use the  Obsidian scripts/triggers/whatever's to get this to work, but I can't seem to figure out the part that spawns the creatures.  I've used all of the scripts from SoZ, copied the entire nx2 campaign folder into my campaign folder too, but it still doesn't work...

[Ugly_Duck_01]

I've also read every tutorial that you guys have suggested to me, but they don't seem to have the info. I need to make the overland creature spawning work.

[rjshae]

You've laid down your Terrain trigger regions and given them their enter/exit/heartbeat scripts?

[Ugly_Duck_01]

[Scripts]

OnEnter = gtr_terrain_en

OnExit = gtr_terrain_ex

OnHeartbeat = gtr_terrain_hb

 

[Variables]

nTerrain = 5

nEncounterChance = 50

nEncounterTable = 24

nRespawnTime = 5

 

I set the test trigger down, and walked over it several times.  the music changes, but no creatures spawn.

[rjshae]

Looks like that should be reading the om_enc_g_torich_hills.2da file for encounters. Not sure why it isn't working as long as that and the om_encounter_table.2da files are okay. You might have to debug the gtr_terrain_hb script and see what part isn't working. (Poor man's debugging: make a local copy of the script and insert some SendMessageToPC() calls to the GetFirstPC() object.)

[Ugly_Duck_01]

What does "debug" mean and how do I do it?

[rjshae]

It means you trace the flow of a program by inserting stop points and checking the state of information at those points. Thus you'd look to see what variables are set to, see whether branches are followed (such as entering 'if' statemen blocks), see what routines are called and with what values, &c. The simplest approach is just to put in print statements (like SendMessageToPC) to show when a point of a program is passed. Thus you could insert a SendMessageToPC in the a copy of the gtr_terrain_hb script so you can see it being called. A more in depth method is to use the debugger. There's some information in the Debugging section of the toolset guide, volume 1, linked in my sig.

[Tchos]

The necessary creature blueprints that are called from the encounter 2DAs are not in the SoZ campaign folder.  I expect they're saved in the overland map module, and need to be exported.

[Ugly_Duck_01]

If I can find the 2das, where do I put them?  In MY campaign folder?

[Loki_999]

In your override folder under My Documents\Neverwinter Nights 2

[Tchos]

It's not 2DAs you need now, it's creature blueprints.  The 2DAs you needed were in the SoZ campaign folder, which you said you copied.  In any case, if you export the blueprints from the SoZ overland map module, then you put them in your campaign folder.  Not the override folder, unless you plan to later move them into the campaign folder, but there's no reason not to just put them there now.

[Ugly_Duck_01]

I can't tell by looking into G_X module, what monsters are the overland spawn.  There are a few creatures under the heading, "Random Encounters" that appear, but they don't have the names like, "Monsterous Band" or whatever..

[rjshae]

There's nothing under the Encounters blueprints that matches up with the om_enc_g_torich_hills.2da entries? (I don't have the toolset in front of me at the moment, so that's just a wild guess.)

[Tchos]

As Bob suggests, don't look for something called "Monstrous Band".  Look for the creature blueprints with resrefs (not names) as listed in the encounter 2DA you're using (which Bob says is Torich Hills).  One such creature blueprint resref is "g00_wyvern".

 

The 2DA also lists encounter resrefs and conversation files that you'll also need to export for the system to work.

[Ugly_Duck_01]

rjshae, I checked the om_enc_g_torich_hills.2da.  Several of the creatures in the G_X2 module from SoZ are on it.  Thanks so far too btw to everyone.

 

What 2da do I need to use to put my own creature encounters in?  In a homemade overland map that is?

[Ugly_Duck_01]

Tchos, do I need the SoZ conversations if I'm using an entirely homemade set of creatures?  Do I even need the homemade conversations that I made for them to work?

[rjshae]

rjshae, I checked the om_enc_g_torich_hills.2da.  Several of the creatures in the G_X2 module from SoZ are on it.  Thanks so far too btw to everyone.

 

What 2da do I need to use to put my own creature encounters in?  In a homemade overland map that is?

 

You should be able to override the om_encounter_table.2da file and add your own rows at the end. Those added entries will then identify the .2da files you will add for encounters within each of your terrain areas. Thus, you might use a consistent naming convention like om_enc_ud_grey_marches.2da, for example.

[Tchos]

Tchos, do I need the SoZ conversations if I'm using an entirely homemade set of creatures?  Do I even need the homemade conversations that I made for them to work?

 

Only because the encounter 2DA calls for them.  If you replace the items in the 2DA with your own, then you won't need them, but if you just want to get the thing working before altering things, put the SoZ conversations in there.  You can start customising once it's all working.