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[Grieving Natashina]

Okay, Kain?  Get on Netflix/Video on Demand and watch it immediately.  I'm not sure why TSAR is asking, but it's a great movie.  The book is even better

[KainD]

Demons are much more powerful and very manipulative though, you don't think that's a recipe for disaster?

 

I think everyone should think for themselves. There are a lot of things that can go wrong all around us. 

[Lorien19]

@Lorien I never used blood sacrifice.  I shut off blood magic and just healed myself that way.  I couldn't bear to use sacrifice on my team.

 

Wait...did that comic actually use "pagan" as a pejorative?  And not the word heathen or heretic instead?

 

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Excuse me, I have a wall to punch. 

I was RPing a ruthless powerhungry killer at that playthrough, and thought why not?

 

Paganism as a pejorative...well that's awkward and Inaccurate,considering that Paganism doesn't even exist in Thedas...

[KainD]

Okay, Kain?  Get on Netflix/Video on Demand and watch it immediately.  I'm not sure why TSAR is asking, but it's a great movie.  The book is even better

 

Sure, I have some spare time. 

[Divine Justinia V]

I think everyone should think for themselves. There are a lot of things that can go wrong all around us. 

 

I mean, I can agree with that.. I'd be lying if I said I couldn't but that doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a good idea. People do unspeakable things all that time due to stupid decisions.

[AresKeith]

that was my point

 

Ah ok, they way you wrote it made it seem like Anders was one of the people who could handle it 

[KainD]

I mean, I can agree with that.. I'd be lying if I said I couldn't but that doesn't necessarily mean I think it's a good idea. People do unspeakable things all that time due to stupid decisions.

 

I like to deal with the problems when they come, not prevent them at the cost of compromises and limitations. 

[Divine Justinia V]

Ah ok, they way you wrote it made it seem like Anders was one of the people who could handle it 

 

I know, once I reread it I was like ahhh dammit, but Tash had already quoted it so it was too late! I meant to put something in between lol.

[Divine Justinia V]

I like to deal with the problems when they come, not prevent them at the cost of compromises and limitations. 

 

I can respect that. When it comes down to it, stuff happens, no matter how hard you try to prevent it.

Unfortunately, the outcome of this in particular can be devastating.

[Lorien19]

I like to deal with the problems when they come, not prevent them at the cost of compromises and limitations. 

Which seems fair enough,after all everyone is responsible for his problems...As long as they remain his own.

[Grieving Natashina]

I can respect that. When it comes down to it, stuff happens, no matter how hard you try to prevent it.

Unfortunately, the outcome of this in particular can be devastating.

Agreed here as well.

[KainD]

I can respect that. When it comes down to it, stuff happens, no matter how hard you try to prevent it.

Unfortunately, the outcome of this in particular can be devastating.

 

My stance over-all is very simple:

1) If I was a mundane in a Dragon age society with authority I would allow mages to live freely among mundanes as equals, sacrificing safety, knowing that things might go wrong, I would take that risk, risk my own life, hoping that they would be productive members of society with their magic. 

If they would try to take advantage I would put a sword through their chest. If magic would go wrong I would treat it like a nature disaster. 

2) If I was a mage I would ask to live equally with mundanes and I would do my best to be a productive member of society and not try to take advantage of them. If I was denied my freedom I would become a blood mage, fight back with all my might to secure my own freedom or die, and then go and actually take advantage of the mundanes Tevinter style, as they didn't want equality. 

 

Edit: Just pointing out that Thedas is currently on the stage when mages are denied their freedom, so that's why I basically say to all mages: 

Fight, fight will everything you have, use blood magic and dominate the mundanes, they didn't want equality. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Which seems fair enough,after all everyone is responsible for his problems...As long as they remain his own.

 

They don't in this case though, days before the circle came to Thedas were evidence enough of that.

[Grieving Natashina]

They don't in this case though, days before the circle came to Thedas were evidence enough of that.

The Circles struck me more of a backlash against the Blight rather than blood magic.  Oh and it was the original Inquisition that lead to the founding of the Circles and of the Templar order.  Rather humorous, if you think about it.

[Divine Justinia V]

The Circles struck me more of a backlash against the Blight rather than blood magic.  Oh and it was the original Inquisition that lead to the founding of the Circles and of the Templar order.  Rather humorous, if you think about it.

 

I agree with this.

[Mockingword]

When I use it.

[KainD]

The Circles struck me more of a backlash against the Blight rather than blood magic.  Oh and it was the original Inquisition that lead to the founding of the Circles and of the Templar order.  Rather humorous, if you think about it.

 

Why they got involved with the chantry I have no idea, they actually weren't a religious organization back in the day. They could've organized things themselves imo.

[Grieving Natashina]

Why they got involved with the chantry I have no idea, they actually weren't a religious organization back in the day. They could've organized things themselves imo.

The Chantry wasn't even a thing when the first Inquisition got started.  Andraste had just started her movement when the Inquisition first began in -100 Ancient.  It was after that the Chantry became organized in 1:20 Divine that the Circle system and the Templar order was established.  From what I could tell, the Chantry formed out of the Inquisition, not the other way around.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Why they got involved with the chantry I have no idea, they actually weren't a religious organization back in the day. They could've organized things themselves imo.

Funding and religious backing, probably. Working for an organized religion that spans several nations has its perks.

[Lorien19]

They don't in this case though, days before the circle came to Thedas were evidence enough of that.

That was my point,they rarely remain their own...When your actions endanger yourself it's your choice,but when they endanger the others around as well, then it's a completely different story.

[KainD]

The Chantry wasn't even a thing when the first Inquisition got started.  Andraste had just started her movement when the Inquisition first began in -100 Ancient.  It was after that the Chantry became organized in 1:20 Divine that the Circle system and the Templar order was established.  From what I could tell, the Chantry formed out of the Inquisition, not the other way around.

 

It wasn't the other way around, they were 2 separate organizations.

[Lorien19]

Funding and religious backing, probably. Working for an organized religion that spans several nations has its perks.

This ^

[KainD]

That was my point,they rarely remain their own...When your actions endanger yourself it's your choice,but when they endanger the others around as well, then it's a completely different story.

 

It's really not, it's all the same.

[dragonflight288]

The Chantry wasn't even a thing when the first Inquisition got started.  Andraste had just started her movement when the Inquisition first began in -100 Ancient.  It was after that the Chantry became organized in 1:20 Divine that the Circle system and the Templar order was established.  From what I could tell, the Chantry templars/seekers formed out of the Inquisition, not the other way around.

 

Fixed it for you. Drakon chose one of many Andrastian cults to become the Chantry, or the church of Orlais, and they brought in the inquisition to be the templars/seekers to watch the mages. 

[Grieving Natashina]

It wasn't the other way around, they were 2 separate organizations.

 All the evidence I see points to the organization of the Chantry emerging from the Inquisition.  Before that, the Chantry was deemed a cult until 1:1 Divine when Justina I declared it the national religion.

 

Much of the policies that the Chantry uses came from the Inquisition of old.  It was Inquisitors that became Templars and Seekers.