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[EmissaryofLies]

I tease, I tease.

 

I just find it hilarious but also evidence of a very well written character.

 

She's extremely polarizing.

[Steelcan]

I tease, I tease.

 

I just find it hilarious but also evidence of a very well written character.

 

She's extremely polarizing.

 

Polarizing =/= well written

[AresKeith]

Please stop talking about Merrill. Please?

 

 

Edit:   Round four hundred and fifty three has commenced.

 

Merrill is kinda relevant to the topic

[AresKeith]

I tease, I tease.

 

I just find it hilarious but also evidence of a very well written character.

 

She's extremely polarizing.

 

I like DAO Merrill better

[EmissaryofLies]

Polarizing =/= well written

True. It is not always so.

 

Though I disagree on the subject of the Merill.

 

By virtue of the fact that this forum has been going at it about Merill for years now lends creedence to her character being well written, which can be supported by her ability to polarize people. Similar to the entire Mage vs. Templar debacle.

 

If she were some flat, one dimensional broken record, I daresay people wouldn't be so passionate about her.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I dont find desperation as a justification for using blood magic or simply to strike down enemies because I've seen the results of that first hand and don't find them justifiable. Orsino was desperate, so was uldred, and avernus, and what they did was whzt I would consider highly deplorable and abominable.

[LobselVith8]

I tease, I tease.

I just find it hilarious but also evidence of a very well written character.

She's extremely polarizing.

I like Merrill, and respect her proactive attitude about the plight her people face.

As for blood magic in general, I don't see it as evil. Some Grey Warden mages use it to give them an edge against the darkspawn, while some apostates use it for self-defense and don't abuse their abilities.

As for some of the more powerful talents, like mind control, I don't think it's necessarily wrong to use it. It can be used in stopping darkspawn, and I think it could have been useful in protecting the elves from Vaughan and his men.

My Surana Warden and apostate Champion were blood mages. However, I'm probably not going to use blood magic (if it's a specialization) with my first character, a Dalish mage. Perhaps with a Vashoth mage, if it fits the character; I'm anxious to learn more about that background.

[SerCambria358]

I like DAO Merrill better

Blasphemy 

[Steelcan]

True. It is not always so.

 

Though I disagree on the subject of the Merill.

 

By virtue of the fact that this forum has been going at it about Merill for years now lends creedence to her character being well written, which can be supported by her ability to polarize people. Similar to the entire Mage vs. Templar debacle.

 

If she were some flat, one dimensional broken record, I daresay people wouldn't be so passionate about her.

 

Popularity and divisiveness is also not indicative of a well written character, and really in DA2 there are no well written ones, perhaps the Arishok and that's about all I can come up with...

[EmissaryofLies]

Popularity and divisiveness is also not indicative of a well written character, and really in DA2 there are no well written ones, perhaps the Arishok and that's about all I can come up with...

 

They can be, but I digress. The Arishok? Agreed, though I hardly think he's the only one. Fenris springs to mind as another well written character.

[Lorien19]

Contrary to common belief,I think that blood magic is inherently evil by it's nature,since a mage has to summon and control a demon,which then feeds on the darker side of the psyche,hence a blood mage is far more likely to turn into an abomination.

However,not every  blood mage is evil,so I believe it has to do with sb's motivation.Users of blood magic seem to have the "end justifies the means" ideology,some seek to augment their power,while others might use it for non malicious purposes and for the benefit of others.Though the fact that it may be used for one's benefit doesn't make blood magic less potent,it just makes it more controversial.
 

Edit:I was misinformed about demon summoning,since it isn't the only method,just the most common outside the imperium.

[Steelcan]

They can be, but I digress. The Arishok? Agreed, though I hardly think he's the only one. Fenris springs to mind as another well written character.

 

"I was a slave and it sucked, and I hate all mages, and I was a slave to mages, and mages enslaved me because mages are evil."

 

"Did I mention I was a slave?"

 

 

*yawn*

[Veruin]

I'm pretty sure you don't need to summon and control a demon to use blood magic.

[AresKeith]

I dont find desperation as a justification for using blood magic or simply to strike down enemies because I've seen the results of that first hand and don't find them justifiable. Orsino was desperate, so was uldred, and avernus, and what they did was whzt I would consider highly deplorable and abominable.

 

Honestly ^ This

 

Desperation has only caused more problems for the mages than it does helping them

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Popularity and divisiveness is also not indicative of a well written character, and really in DA2 there are no well written ones, perhaps the Arishok and that's about all I can come up with...

That is opinion. Please, don't try to present an opinion as fact.

(That may not have been the intent, but that is what it came across as.)

[Hellion Rex]

I don't think that the Veil being torn means that there are, literally, holes in the Veil as if it is a physical thing. It means that ias been weakened enough that demons can pour freely through so, there's probably nothing stopping it from being strengthened before it reaches "breaking" point.

That could probably be something worth looking into in the long term. AN extensive and continued effort by all Southern Circle mages to strengthen the Veil continent wide.

I'm certainly willing to attempt such an effort. But it would require magic on the scale of which no one has ever attempted. And who's to say that attempting use lots of magic to try and strengthen the Veil won't merely do the opposite?

[Hellion Rex]

I'm pretty sure you don't need to summon and control a demon to use blood magic.

Exactly. All you need is one little cut. Didn't Anders say something to Merrill about the first time a mage might inadvertently use blood magic is when they accidentally cut themself?

[EmissaryofLies]

Honestly ^ This

 

Desperation has only caused more problems for the mages than it does helping them

 

Hope you feel the same towards the red templars in DA Inquisition.

[Veruin]

Hope you feel the same towards the red templars in DA Inquisition.

The Red Templars seem gimmicky in that the only purpose they seem to serve is give Templars a blood magic counterpart,

 

Evil because magic corrupt thing made you do it, is just getting old.

[LobselVith8]

Exactly. All you need is one little cut. Didn't Anders say something to Merrill about the first time a mage might inadvertently use blood magic is when they accidentally cut themself?

Yes, that's true. Also, the Orlesian Warden can ask the Baroness to teach him blood magic, at a time he thinks she is simply a mage. WoT also reads that some mages in Tevinter are taught blood magic by their instructors.

[EmissaryofLies]

"I was a slave and it sucked, and I hate all mages, and I was a slave to mages, and mages enslaved me because mages are evil."

 

"Did I mention I was a slave?"

 

 

*yawn*

 

You can sum up the Arishok in the same manner ya know.

 

The Qun Demands, I can't leave cus Qun, The Qun dictates, You all suck cus no Qun.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Use of Blood Magic is never justified.

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Use of Blood Magic is never justified.

Not even when a mage has no other way to survive, because Templars are hunting them simply for wanting to not be caged?

[EmperorSahlertz]

Not even when a mage has no other way to survive, because Templars are hunting them simply for wanting to not be caged?

Nope. Not even then.

[AresKeith]

Hope you feel the same towards the red templars in DA Inquisition.

 

I feel that way about them now, as Red Templar's seem like a mirror to Blood Mages as well as mooks for the Main Antagonists