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OdanUrr wrote...
Seival wrote...
J. Reezy wrote...
Then why do you block people?Seival wrote...
General TSAR wrote...
You know what BSN really needs? Ignore lists.
Everyone will be happy.
Ignore list doesn't help to build friendly community
To avoid hiring moderator for my profile comments page.
I thought you could set your profile to private?
Seival wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
Seival wrote...
J. Reezy wrote...
Then why do you block people?Seival wrote...
General TSAR wrote...
You know what BSN really needs? Ignore lists.
Everyone will be happy.
Ignore list doesn't help to build friendly community
To avoid hiring moderator for my profile comments page.
I thought you could set your profile to private?
And make it completely unavailable to all users? This is not an attractive option for me.
Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
Seival wrote...
Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
You are also wrong about not being able to PM mods unless they are on your friends' list. You can respond to any message that hasn' t been deleted from the system, unless you have been actively blocked, but regardless of whether you are friends with the person.
There is an issue there - the message must exist in the first place. It won't, if the mods never send you a notice about your ban length (which was normal for months, until many of us requested in here to have the issue addressed, and it has improved.) However, unless you have been blocked, you have the option of posting the request on their wall (I recommend that you do so politely) or by asking in this thread (which is less likely to have a quick response.)
And I bring you back to my original point - you can already do everything that you want to by creating a group. You choose not to, which is not the mods' responsibility, nor ours, to deal with.
If a discussion has little value, then it just fades from the first page very quickly. This is not the reason to lock the thread, while it was a matter of several minutes to remove few spam posts and warn the spammers.
When someone blocks you, you don't have access to his profile and the profile's options. Moderator responded to me via PM only once after I reported his own post in one of the locked threads. There was no other way to send him a private message. If there was, I want to see a step by step explanation of how to send PMs to moderators.
Reread what I wrote. It explains how to send PMs, and that you can only respond once one is sent to you. I explain it again, below.
I also never said anything about the value of a discussion being relevant to whether it is locked. You keep saying things in response to me that have nothing to do with what I said.
Here is the explanation that you asked for:
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Here are the recognized methods of sending messages to moderators.
- Request them as a friend. As a general rule, named mods will accept FRs until they are given a reason not to. From there, it should be simple, but I will elaborate: PM them if they accept. I do not believe the numbered mod accounts accept FRs, but you could try.
- Write a message on their wall. You can do this as long as you have not been blocked.
- Respond to the message that you received when you reported the moderator. As long as the message hasn't been deleted from the system, you can still use it to send messages back and forth - again, unless you have been blocked.
If you have been blocked by the moderators, then I suspect you are already aware of the problem that you face in attempting to communicate with them. (I don't feel that you have a legitimate complaint if that is the case. Given some of the things I've seen posted on the moderators walls that haven't resulted in people being blocked, it would take something very severe to actually reach a point where you are unable to post on any moderators' walls.) So, again, the power to do what you are asking for is power that you have had, all along. You have chosen not to use it.
One final point: Being capable of communicating with a mod or dev does not guarantee a response. In my experience, politely asking will generally produce results. I can't speak for your experience, but with the exception of the numbered mod accounts and a single admin, I have never had problems getting a response to a politely asked question.
OdanUrr wrote...
Seival wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
Seival wrote...
J. Reezy wrote...
Then why do you block people?Seival wrote...
General TSAR wrote...
You know what BSN really needs? Ignore lists.
Everyone will be happy.
Ignore list doesn't help to build friendly community
To avoid hiring moderator for my profile comments page.
I thought you could set your profile to private?
And make it completely unavailable to all users? This is not an attractive option for me.
If you end up blocking people, isn't that the same thing?
Modifié par Greylycantrope, 27 janvier 2014 - 07:38 .
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J. Reezy wrote...
Let's not forget that Seival could have also just restricted the comments or the profile itself to only people on his friends list. Again, making the block function largely redundant. If you want or don't mind certain users commenting on your profile all you need to do is send a friends request. There's your profile moderation, made easy through a few setting changes. And like Grey said, you want those moderator powers for threads, make a group like other people on this forum have done. Special treatment is unnecessary.
Modifié par Seival, 27 janvier 2014 - 08:50 .
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Let it go Ampz lolspirosz wrote...
You know what else should be fixed? The ME3 romance section.
[Off-topic comments removed.]Modifié par Ninja Stan, 28 janvier 2014 - 08:41 .
TheClonesLegacy wrote...
I'd also like to see some more variety in the backgrounds.
Maybe the ability to have custom ones. A small detail, but it'd be nice.
Custom Avis without the whole Dragon age method would be cool too.
Modifié par Seival, 27 janvier 2014 - 10:13 .
TheClonesLegacy wrote...
Custom Avis without the whole Dragon age method would be cool too.
Yeah! What's up with that? Are they worried about copyright claims or something?AresKeith wrote...
We've been asking this for a long time and still nothing
I don't think there is a way to fix that section, I truly don't.spirosz wrote...
You know what else should be fixed? The ME3 romance section.
Modifié par General TSAR, 27 janvier 2014 - 11:07 .
The Baconer wrote...
Honestly, does MLP really need a sticky?
Also, if we won't get a custom avatar feature at least let me upload my DA:O data.
J. Reezy wrote...
You could not care how other people are or are not reprimanded and make a group, with all the topics you want, with the moderator power you want.Seival wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
It seems like everything you want to happen is already possible, just not the way you want it to be Seival
Possible, of course. There are forum rules. But mechanisms of enforcing the rules are far from effective, I'm afraid. Otherwise, posts like this would be just impossible:
http://social.biowar...1123/3#17821579
But look, the person who posted the spam wasn't banned, he is right here, discussing me instead of the matter of the topic. Yes, TheClonesLegacy? Tell me, did moderator at least warn you about you violation of the forums rules? Are you planning the same violation of forum rules in the future? It's really interesting to know... Twice interesing to know exactly in this thread, because here people discuss the ways to improve BSN.
Being banned is up to the whims of the moderators on the forums. Not every quote pyramid or gif/pic spam is going to result in a ban. You weren't banned for pretty much spamming a duplicate topic so you should know this.
Modifié par Seival, 28 janvier 2014 - 11:42 .
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Seival wrote...
Forum rules are valid for both threads and groups. When threads become discriminated, that should be discussed and fixed. Groups are not the only answer to spam or rude speech. When spam results a thread closing, spammer responsible should be at least warned, or banned for reasonable amount of time as a counter-measure to further attempts of spamming and as a constructive punishment. This is quite logical.
I believe the most correct decision regarding the mentioned thread would be removal of spam replies, PM warnings sent to the spammers, and note about importance of following the forum rules posted by moderator in the thread. Without closing the thread itself. The thread was just 4 pages long with few people who posted replies. I think that moderators should show more flexibility while dealing with spam and rude speech.
And there was no duplicate topic. When moderators close a thread that duplicated another thread, they explain that in the duplicate thread just before closing it.
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Seival wrote...
Forum rules are valid for both threads and groups. When threads become discriminated, that should be discussed and fixed. Groups are not the only answer to spam or rude speech. When spam results a thread closing, spammer responsible should be at least warned, or banned for reasonable amount of time as a counter-measure to further attempts of spamming and as a constructive punishment. This is quite logical.
I believe the most correct decision regarding the mentioned thread would be removal of spam replies, PM warnings sent to the spammers, and note about importance of following the forum rules posted by moderator in the thread. Without closing the thread itself. The thread was just 4 pages long with few people who posted replies. I think that moderators should show more flexibility while dealing with spam and rude speech.
And there was no duplicate topic. When moderators close a thread that duplicated another thread, they explain that in the duplicate thread just before closing it.
1.) Do you realize that publicly complaining about thread closures is generally not welcome at this site? You should do what everyone else here does and PM the mod in question. Those issues that arise when you try to do it? We have those too. Those issues are there to insure mods don't get messages about every closed thread.
2.) As it's already been stated, community mod powers would be abused, as evidenced by your closing of your profile. You say you blocked me and others because of the possibility of us commenting on your profile, though there was no past action that would suggest that many of the people you blocked would do that. I can only imagine what your justification for your thread ban list would be.
3.) If they sit there and clean up your thread, then they have to do it for everyone. That takes too much time, and it's better to just shut down unproductive conversations when they are discovered.
4.) Making duplicate threads is also frowned upon. Perhaps I would believe your assertion that the other thread wasn't a duplicate if you would've pointed out other games that use the continous-play feature, and if you hadn't of made it a point to say that B:TS is the only good game out there. Like I've said, you knew exactly what you are doing when you made that thread. You were looking for a reaction. Also, naming and shaming is another thing looked down upon by the mods. You are going on a witchhunt to get a person banned. If the mod felt they should be banned, then they would've been banned. They do not have the personal bias about that particular thread that you have. With that in mind, you have broken three rules here, so it can be argued that you deserved to be banned here.
5.) The easiest solution, then, would be to create a group so you can always have discussions with like-minded people, and you don't have to worry about hearing anything from people who do not like the topic that you are talking about. Banning people from their consoles for an online disagreement is not a good way to insure good will, and it would most likely lead to many more problems between the two particular people.
With that in mind, this argument has pretty much gone in a circle for the last few pages. My suggestion would be for a mod to give their input about this particular subject, as none of us will make those decisions.
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