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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Good morning everyone. Warning: very long post ahead, but it is necessary. Also there are sections containing sarcasm. Picking apart the Mass Effect plot has become a past time because it has more holes than Swiss Cheese.

 

As suggested I’m going to run this idea past everyone here. What I’m proposing will not affect the Medusa plot or Morgan’s plot, but we should discuss this and how people feel about this idea because it can get a bit touchy. Bottom line is that I'm suggesting we dump the ME3 plot in its totality. It never happened. We write our own I've got a very detailed outline. This post will be in two parts. Here's why I think we can do this.

 

We’re in a RP where we are in the ME2 time period. A lot of things haven’t happened yet in the main story so in my opinion we could have more freedom of choice if you want go that way. As we know, the Arrival DLC was available immediately after you did Horizon, and Hackett was urging you to do it immediately. I’m tending to go with Shepard did this immediately. To me this was one of the most poorly written DLCs of the entire lot on par with Pinnacle Station. For one, the Reapers, who want to remain hidden and unknown to the galaxy, seem to have thrown a huge rager after they completed harvesting Prothean Cycle and left a GoPro camera on an asteroid in the Bahak System near the Alpha Relay. Dr. Kenson was simply looking at the most recent vid. Harbinger got so drunk he decided to film himself and post it online… only they destroyed the internet so he just dropped it there, and he was so hungover the next eon that he completely forgot about it.

 

Another thing that bugs me is the fact that Harbinger was able to project itself on the asteroid in Arrival. Did the project engineers install some kind of weird holo-altar for the team to worship the reapers on? What's going on here? I think they gave Shepard red sand when they locked him/her up. From now on I’m calling red sand the red cocaine of Mass Effect. Shepard must have been on some kind of drug trip.

 

But enough of that. Arrival unfortunately is lore. It happened. Shepard blew up the relay. But what exactly did happen after can be up for grabs for the purpose of OUR story.

 

There are things we have been speculating about. One of them is that there is even a relay in dark space. Given the size of the Citadel and its huge mass relay which is several times larger than the normal ones, it might simply create a wormhole to a point in dark space where the reapers are, otherwise it would be dial an invasion point to the relay of your choice. However, that’s not what they did in the story. So this gives more credence to the wormhole theory. Or it tells me that the writers didn't know what the hell they were doing.

 

Now the other thing is the travel. I’ve been warned about doing this from others, so don’t bother warning me. From the vantage point in one of the major graphics at the end of ME2 you get to see the reapers looking at the galaxy and salivating. I used an astronomy program and moved it out to where the galaxy appeared to be the same size as what was in the graphic. That was 125,000 light years. Hmm… Now according to the Codex, the reapers travel at 30 LY per day which means it would have taken them 11.4 years to reach the edge of the galaxy, or let’s say approximately 12 years to reach the nearest mass relay. Plus their destroyers need to discharge, but their capital ships do not. This is a lore problem.

 

So the Super Mac Attack retroactively gave them Space Magic^TM drive of 115 LY/day to allow them to make the trip to the Alpha Relay in three years by stating they started coming as of 2183. Also there are issues that get completely ignored: like fuel. (Apparently the reapers are perpetual motion machines as well.) Now he stated this just after Arrival was released which was well after the release of Mass Effect 2. Hence this is a retcon to make some sense out of something that doesn’t make sense.

 

It is one that I wish to ignore because it breaks the entire story. Why? There is no way to defeat the reapers conventionally. There are too many of them. They are overpowered. It forces an ending with a deus ex machina AKA super-weapon AKA “I am the Catalyst.” Also Super Mac has been retroactively filling in all the details with ass pulls between some part after ME1 and ME3 in the comics so that the crap they wrote in ME3 can make a semblance of sense. Do you really want to be bound by this bull****?

 

If you do, I won’t write anymore. If you don’t, I will write another post and give you a taste of what I have in mind for the plot.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I'd be fine with going off and making this a rp divergant from canon. I'd need to rework some things with my new characters ongoing plot, but I could see it wokring out well.

[Kel Riever]

I'm the knucklehead who recommended asking people stuff.  My take is with Terca gone, it is pretty much our collective creation now.  For resolving things, I basically recommend voting.  Hopefully there aren't too many close votes.  And my ultimate recommendation now is there is not 'the one plot' but instead a number of plots we can all pursue with anyone who wants to be a lead storymaker, being a lead story maker for that particular plot.

 

However, there's always an overall universe and if it deviates from the ME timeline or story, I think everyone giving a thumbs up or thumbs down is helpful in us all having this what we want it to be.

 

Julia is not wrong as far as I'm concerned.  There are big plot holes in the story.  I personally loathe the end of the Mass Effect series with Starbrat, but I know I disagree with a lot of fans.  And technically, according to standard online rpg rules, the lore that exists is the one that is assumed, unless there's some agreement from the people involved.

 

Basically, I think that's all that's needed.  I can live with Reapers not showing up for 12 years.  I doubt our characters will be written for that long inside our story but you never know.  While I can absolutely live with the Mass Effect events that are to occur, such as Reapers showing up 6 ish months after Arrival, my preference is, in fact, that at least that aspect changes.  So another vote for being able to diverge upon agreement from me at least.  Then we can agree on what to diverge from as it comes up.

[Redbelle]

We did the same thing withthe BAL thread.

[Redbelle]

So yes the Audron's captained by a by the book focus on the mission type. Someone who is likely thinking that if the town get's swallowed it'll mean no tracebacks that the Audron stole a carriage of armour. to be fair the Audron and the captain don't know enough about the situation to make an informed decision and even if they did...... They'd make a dent in the number's..... but wouldn't be able to hold these Re-Possessed back. They move fast, are to many and zerging. One ship won't hold them back and they just keep coming.

 

It's time to evacuate the town and planet. But since Deidrus and everyone else don't know or can't help, it's down to us guys.

 

But please someone.... before anything else.....

 

Save the booze!!!

[Kel Riever]

Well damn.  

 

We better get uploading that info, not that it will make that much of a difference at this point.  

 

But, to the ship!

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

You know....

 

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

Well, I know Im fairly new to everything, but Julia makes some good points. ME has a lot of plot holes, especially 3. Technically, ME3 has so much magic that all of the science and history of the games are a moot point because of all of the magic in the endings.

Having the RPG deviate take a different continuity past makes since. The DLCs and Casey Hudson have always been a weak point. When ME3 came out win a $15 DLC that has a "whole 7th squad mate!", and the game costed $115 to play completely, Bioware just became a money hungry ******. So I say screw them and lets make our own damn story.

As for the Reapers taking 12 years, we could do that. I'd still like to see the Reapers come eventually, but it's kind of like how the White walkers are always lurking in GOT. One thing we could do is eventually have a 10 year time jump or so. That's be an exciting way of putting the characters in a unique spot after developing them enough.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Let me make this clear. The reapers eventually get here. The plot calls for it to happen. But... speculations. I'm not tipping my hand and giving away a ton of spoilers. You can understand.

[Kel Riever]

I added potential drama to the escape...  

 

Everybody writing has logged and I presume had a chance to respond.  So we're good with Reapers arriving over a decade out.  Here are the next questions:

 

1. Do we want to continue ghosting Deidrus or have a new Spectre as a focus, created by a player?
2. Along those lines, do we want to pursue the Collector plot, or make plots of our own?

For me, I'd like to have a different created Spectre (there's more than one idea out there) for the story, whether part of the group or not, and I'd like to have people create plots aside from the Collector plot (and if someone wants to take the Collector plot along with the rest of the plots, that's fine with me)

[Cainhurst Crow]

I feel bad for saying this but I think Deidrus should go out like ultra magnus, for any transformers fans out there familiar with that.

[Redbelle]

In the IDW UM mwas revealed to be a tiny robot in enormous armour..... So Deidrus is a tiny person in a Turian robot body? We've had Pacific Rim in the story and not known it!

[Kel Riever]

Pacific Rim is still in the lineup, I'll have to see it someday.

 

If Deidrus has to go out (or go into that nebulous zone of assumed deceased but you never know) I have a plan.....

 

Anyway, that would be three votes for okay new Spectre?  I'm including Shotgun Julia because I happen to know she's got an idea for a certain Spectre already, muhahahaha....And I'm not sure where you stand RedBelle, are you voting for the same, but an itty bitty Spectre?

[Redbelle]

I think Deidrus has voted himself out of the position due to his Turian mindset of 'focus on the mission'. Then again, it never hurt's to give characters an circumstantial villian. Deidrus is doing what he thinks is best and the crew are under a different set of circumstances doing what they think is best.

 

That said..... Deidrus has essentially been handed a group that is not military and has no current military ties. We're essentially a crew of the dirty dozen who needs a hard but fair and willing to bend  commander. Someone to reach the group half way. Deidrus was that.... but without a player to drive him he's suffering due to falling into a stereotype. Plus he's not getting aired alot compared to the active writers.

 

If Deidrus had commanded the DA mission we'd have rolled up, announced, then occupied the place while an investigation team worked through the compound. By the Book. Our groups way is much more chaotic. There is no book, or everyone's reading their own book. Put somehow the group pulls together and does things Deidrus can't predict.

 

 I don't want to make Deidrus the villain to heavily in case Terca comes back and wants to play him, but yeah..... Jess for example has been pushing the group a certain way sometimes. She can't really justify that on the Audron without undercutting the current captain and if the current captain is constantly being undermined hen he's not working in his role.

 

Short answer...... Yes, I think we need a new commander.

 

Someone like the leader of the Dirty Dozen who's happy to let the group beat each other up without stepping in break it up on account that.... they need the release. Or someone who can just give the group a goal, but not a plan to get to it, and then let the group devise their own, non standard means of getting to that goal.

[Cainhurst Crow]

love how vayne tried to help clear the town and just made it worse. XD

 

Everyone else is getting vehicles prepped, getting people away, and he blows up a tank to get everyone running away.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I told you Irina was cray - cray.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I told you Irina was cray - cray.

 

But to vayne she's perfectly reasonable. XD

 

She's a krogan, even if she's human.

[Kel Riever]

Well, I always got the impression that a lot of frontier towns aren't entirely normal.

 

Sure, you've got the family type, making sure the kids are okay, getting when there's trouble and all that.

 

And then you have that group of yahoos, fringers and thrill seekers who are going to run the 'wrong direction':  towards the explosions when they hear them, and at the attackers with guns when they see them.  You know, Irina's kind of people.  Just not necessarily as smart.

[Redbelle]

To bad we didn't have time to do this to the town.

 

[Kel Riever]

Talked to Cknarf and we all seem to be fine with a new Spectre.  While I was going to put an idea forward, after talking to Julia, I personally am behind her idea for a Spectre, especially since she seem so fired up about it.

 

I'll let her describe it herself

 

Meanwhile there will be a transition to be sure.  We'll write it out.

 

@RedBelle:    I got as far as cactus head!

 

Edit:  Robbing a train is next, correct?

[Redbelle]

Yep. Daylight robbery!

[Redbelle]

Aaaw. I wrote a post this morning and it's not there.... Oh well.... I'll get on it after work. Which should be in an hour or two......

[Kel Riever]

Frank Eli:  The turret on the Scythe shuttle is crushed good, thanks to a very enthusiastic Collectorman, um Numan, um Reposessed, um hybrig...you get it.  It could be a good reason for him to help Naleena, though yeah, she looked pretty scary the last time he saw her.  Probably a refabrication of parts and installation, requiring interface with VERA....which would I suspect require oversight by Naleena.  That's an idea for an in.

 

@RedBelle:  Very sorry to hear.  I dislike losing writing.  Although I added something to send to you by PM this morning so, Silver lining? (get it?)

 

I am writing, not necessarily in this order, the demise of Calvin Brisbane, and adding some asari characters for the Great Armor Train Robbery.  If I'm stepping on any toes for non-player characters, please let me know and I can revise.

[Redbelle]

I'm looking aaaand.....

 

nope....

 

No gratuitious shower scene with the rubber hose and scrubbing brush.

 

Because Hanar is not body shampoo and never should be!

[Cknarf]

I might get a post up later today after work.  Most likely, I'll keep Frank in the shuttle bay until everyone gets settled.  He knows nothing about the collector-humans, but I feel like he's going to hear about them sooner than later, considering there's a crapload of traumatized civilians packed onto the Audron.  

In the meantime, I'm looking forward to more from everyone, while I'm slacking at work lol.