Blackwall Discussion Thread -- The Resolve! [Voiced by Alastair Parker]
#6051
Posté 18 septembre 2014 - 08:27
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#6052
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 02:13
Actually, the longer they go without a reveal, the more I twist myself into thinking it's going to be a REALLY BIG REVEAL. Like in the kind where if there's not a whole lot of other stuff to distract folks, they start sniping and hating. I'm already sure that I'm going to like the character, but why the big secret? I'm almost starting to believe there might be a big name involved. I'm actually afraid to voice my suspicions because it's a jinx. The devs do know by now that Blackwall fans are nothing if not patient and polite, even though we're a bit enthusiastic at times. I'm really glad that whatever decisions have been made have been at this point. I wish there wasn't a problem wilth Cullen's interview (music group recording on the next sound stage over or something - sound-proof booths aren't.)
They're building up hype, and can't blame them, but the wait is murder. What's going to happen if it's someone really too hot to hold? Mayhem.
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#6053
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 03:01
Actually, the longer they go without a reveal, the more I twist myself into thinking it's going to be a REALLY BIG REVEAL. Like in the kind where if there's not a whole lot of other stuff to distract folks, they start sniping and hating. I'm already sure that I'm going to like the character, but why the big secret? I'm almost starting to believe there might be a big name involved. I'm actually afraid to voice my suspicions because it's a jinx. The devs do know by now that Blackwall fans are nothing if not patient and polite, even though we're a bit enthusiastic at times. I'm really glad that whatever decisions have been made have been at this point. I wish there wasn't a problem wilth Cullen's interview (music group recording on the next sound stage over or something - sound-proof booths aren't.)
They're building up hype, and can't blame them, but the wait is murder. What's going to happen if it's someone really too hot to hold? Mayhem.
Blackwall fans are not patient. We are a Blackwall standing ready for the fight.
#6054
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 03:26
Patience is not synonymous with complacency. What are we going to do? Tweet 20 times a day and spam the thread with pointless threats to blackball Blackwall (hey, that rhymes) if we don't get some news? We'll wait, and in the devs' own time, they'll let us in on the surprise Last Flight just came out, and last week we had the surprisingly funny Ramon Tikarem to appreciate. My sister's copy of Last Flight should arrive in a day or two and I'll be distracted if I get to the mailbox first, but then it's back to lurking and waiting. I read very quickly and will probably finish it in a few hours. I'm getting some good time in on the games I meant to play, but I'm already playing (in advance) the one I hope to get.
#6055
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 05:44
Patience is not synonymous with complacency. What are we going to do? Tweet 20 times a day and spam the thread with pointless threats to blackball Blackwall (hey, that rhymes) if we don't get some news? We'll wait, and in the devs' own time, they'll let us in on the surprise Last Flight just came out, and last week we had the surprisingly funny Ramon Tikarem to appreciate. My sister's copy of Last Flight should arrive in a day or two and I'll be distracted if I get to the mailbox first, but then it's back to lurking and waiting. I read very quickly and will probably finish it in a few hours. I'm getting some good time in on the games I meant to play, but I'm already playing (in advance) the one I hope to get.
It's a good read. I have only had it two days and I'm seven chapters in. If it wasn't for school work I think I would be halfway through the book by the end of the weekend.
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#6056
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 06:46
So no news? Friday is a lie!
Pick up your warrior! ![]()

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And romantic stuff.

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*Gamermd83*
Who....is the marvelous writer...of my big beefy piece of cake, Blackwall? ![]()
*Joe California* Karin Weekes
*Karin Weekes*
Actually, I get to polish the words, but the big beefy words themselves were written by the marvelous @*SherylChee*
*Sheryl Chee*
I'm a little afraid to respond to this...
*Gamermd83*
xD
*Sheryl Chee*
I mean, what if when you meet him you don't find his words beefy enough?
*Gamermd83*
Oh psh...girl...he could say nothing but "Hordor" and I'd STILL be beefcaked! ;D
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#6057
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 08:35
So I've been thinking on the whole Calling and Deep Roads thing in relation to Blackwall for a little while, and then the possibility of the Inquisitor being the Second Coming of Andraste or 'Andraste's Chosen'. Although the Inquisitors identity is just fan speculation at this point, it did make me wonder whether there is a possibility for the Inquisitor to have some power to destroy the taint Blackwall has within him, so saving him from his fate as a Warden. If so, perhaps the sacrifice the Inquisitor would have to make is giving up their divinity (if it does go that route) to cleanse Blackwall's taint, not unlike the sort of choice you face at the end of Baldur's Gate (which btw, I would do in a heartbeat).
I realize this is grasping at straws, but regarding his Calling and the possibility that he may be able to be saved from it (because it would be so freaking sad if we had to have another LI die on us), what are peoples' thoughts? I'm interested to hear. ![]()
Hope this hasn't been discussed yet?
#6058
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 09:06
Gyaaad Aimo! Why you have to draw things like that?
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I hope that doesn't happen in the game. I don't see how it can, considering we can play on even after the main quest line is finished.
#6059
Posté 19 septembre 2014 - 09:59
So I've been thinking on the whole Calling and Deep Roads thing in relation to Blackwall for a little while, and then the possibility of the Inquisitor being the Second Coming of Andraste or 'Andraste's Chosen'. Although the Inquisitors identity is just fan speculation at this point, it did make me wonder whether there is a possibility for the Inquisitor to have some power to destroy the taint Blackwall has within him, so saving him from his fate as a Warden. If so, perhaps the sacrifice the Inquisitor would have to make is giving up their divinity (if it does go that route) to cleanse Blackwall's taint, not unlike the sort of choice you face at the end of Baldur's Gate (which btw, I would do in a heartbeat).
I realize this is grasping at straws, but regarding his Calling and the possibility that he may be able to be saved from it (because it would be so freaking sad if we had to have another LI die on us), what are peoples' thoughts? I'm interested to hear.
Hope this hasn't been discussed yet?
To get rid of the taint Blackwall has to deflower the Inquisitor. I think I just had an idea for a very dirty and poorly written fan fiction.
#6060
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 12:04
Not surprised Joe. ![]()
I thought maybe Avernus (is that his right name)? or the Architect decision might factor in about the Wardens. Other than that I really hadn't given it much thought. I supposed that the Inquisitor having some sort of influence over it might be interesting in some ways. But that's all I say on the matter. I don't much like gloom and doom discussions.
*Retreats*
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#6061
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 12:53
Actually, the longer they go without a reveal, the more I twist myself into thinking it's going to be a REALLY BIG REVEAL. Like in the kind where if there's not a whole lot of other stuff to distract folks, they start sniping and hating. I'm already sure that I'm going to like the character, but why the big secret? I'm almost starting to believe there might be a big name involved. I'm actually afraid to voice my suspicions because it's a jinx. The devs do know by now that Blackwall fans are nothing if not patient and polite, even though we're a bit enthusiastic at times. I'm really glad that whatever decisions have been made have been at this point. I wish there wasn't a problem wilth Cullen's interview (music group recording on the next sound stage over or something - sound-proof booths aren't.)
They're building up hype, and can't blame them, but the wait is murder. What's going to happen if it's someone really too hot to hold? Mayhem.
Blackwall's VA is... *drumroll*... Duncan's VA from origins. That's right, Duncan's back from the dead and now goes by the alias of Blackwall. Plot twist!
#6062
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 01:03
Arrrrgh this still! (From rypleytrevelyan @ Tumblr)
I want to hear more of his voice - even if they don't say who the VA is, I wish we had a bit more audio to listen to instead of one shouted line.
- Kaidan Fan, Magdalena11 et Gvalchca aiment ceci
#6063
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 03:29
Not surprised Joe.
I thought maybe Avernus (is that his right name)? or the Architect decision might factor in about the Wardens. Other than that I really hadn't given it much thought. I supposed that the Inquisitor having some sort of influence over it might be interesting in some ways. But that's all I say on the matter. I don't much like gloom and doom discussions.
*Retreats*
I ,like to use the blackest wall in the back of my mind. It is where I put all my dirtiest idea.
#6064
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 07:33
So nobody has anything much to speculate about Blackwall's taint and a possible cure? I would have thought more people were thinking about it, as I was. I know it's not the most positive topic, but it's the elephant in the room, after all. It doesn't have to be a negative discussion, in any case.
Perhaps it's a case of people not wanting to speculate and get their hopes up? I can understand that, but I still believe discussing the issue will be a positive experience, because in the end if he does receive the calling and go to the deep roads, it will likely be a little easier to stomach if we're not blocking it from our minds and pretending it doesn't exist.
I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not Bioware has considered how this relates to our experience with Thane, and whether they plan to do something like that to us again or have thought of a way to rescue the situation with a cure (and what this could mean for all Wardens).
Purely in the interest of discussion. ![]()
#6065
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 07:57
That could be interesting; depending on past choices in your games you either get a happily ever after with Blackwall or watch him go off to his Calling. I'd go with the happy ending because I prefer them generally, but I would love the option.
Curing the Grey Wardens of the taint might be too much change for the series overall, though. I don't know if Bioware wants to have that big a difference between playthroughs for future games. Then again, this game will be importing some very different worldstates, so who knows? Maybe cured Wardens will be one of the big decisions for future games, much like siding with mages or the Chantry in DA2 will probably have quite an impact on DAI.
#6066
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Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 07:57
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So nobody has anything much to speculate about Blackwall's taint and a possible cure? I would have thought more people were thinking about it, as I was. I know it's not the most positive topic, but it's the elephant in the room, after all. It doesn't have to be a negative discussion, in any case.
Perhaps it's a case of people not wanting to speculate and get their hopes up? I can understand that, but I still believe discussing the issue will be a positive experience, because in the end if he does receive the calling and go to the deep roads, it will likely be a little easier to stomach if we're not blocking it from our minds and pretending it doesn't exist.
I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not Bioware has considered how this relates to our experience with Thane, and whether they plan to do something like that to us again or have thought of a way to rescue the situation with a cure (and what this could mean for all Wardens).
Purely in the interest of discussion.
Actually I never discussed this topic because if there will ever be something in DA:I concerning Blackwall's Taint I simply trust the writer's talent: I know it will be totally heartbreaking, but totally awesome, if a scenario like the one in Aimo's comic will occur, on the other hand I will be happy if the authors will decide that his Calling is all but near. I have not much to say about it, my thirst for news is only about a new screenshot or his voice actor, things that will enhance my longing to know him without spoiling too much about the game and the story ![]()
#6067
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 10:59
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Hmmm... the Avernus road could bring a possible way of getting rid of the taint or at least some of it's features without making the whole things seem like out of bad fanfic.
I would love to see that your decisions on previous games change the fate of your party members. Though it might be bittersweet or down right annoying if you realize halfway through the game that what you were up to will not work because the safe you imported goes against what you were planning. ![]()
Also I want know Blackwalls VA. Like Now! Or at least hear more of his voice. Pretty please
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#6068
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 11:10
I've gotta wonder if Blackwall would even accept a cure, if one existed. He sounds like he's dedicated, and might feel like he's cheating his way past what all Wardens must go through.
But, I don't know.
#6069
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 11:34
I've gotta wonder if Blackwall would even accept a cure, if one existed. He sounds like he's dedicated, and might feel like he's cheating his way past what all Wardens must go through.
But, I don't know.
Never thought of that but you might be right. He does seems like someone who rather not cheat his fate
#6070
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 12:08
That could be interesting; depending on past choices in your games you either get a happily ever after with Blackwall or watch him go off to his Calling. I'd go with the happy ending because I prefer them generally, but I would love the option.
Curing the Grey Wardens of the taint might be too much change for the series overall, though. I don't know if Bioware wants to have that big a difference between playthroughs for future games. Then again, this game will be importing some very different worldstates, so who knows? Maybe cured Wardens will be one of the big decisions for future games, much like siding with mages or the Chantry in DA2 will probably have quite an impact on DAI.
Well it really depends on how great a focus Wardens are in future games, and how greatly they draw upon history in those games, and furthermore, what details they even choose to mention.
Okay, so let's think about it - would it really change so much? The biggest risk when becoming a warden is drinking the Archdemon and Darskpawn blood, which you either die from or survive. That would not actually be effected by a cure, so the risk would still exist. Perhaps the cure itself is risky too? perhaps it wouldn't entirely cure the nightmares either, and some parts of the taint may yet remain making it anything but a peachy existence - it just won't be a death sentence. What I'm saying is, just because it's a cure, doesn't mean it's a miracle cure that will restore the person to a state of health prior to accepting the taint - there could still be side effects of it (which could be quite unpleasant), and nobody is forces to take it, but it would be an alternative for those who wish to eventually retire to a quieter life.
What would that really change in future games (unless Wardens again become the focus) besides giving some hope to Wardens?
Actually I never discussed this topic because if there will ever be something in DA:I concerning Blackwall's Taint I simply trust the writer's talent: I know it will be totally heartbreaking, but totally awesome, if a scenario like the one in Aimo's comic will occur, on the other hand I will be happy if the authors will decide that his Calling is all but near. I have not much to say about it, my thirst for news is only about a new screenshot or his voice actor, things that will enhance my longing to know him without spoiling too much about the game and the story
I'm not really sure how speculation would spoil the game or story, since we're just basing thing off our own theories and not any actual evidence. There's a pretty good chance that we won't be anywhere near what is actually being done, or y'know, he'll just take his calling.
I just hope it doesn't come to that though. Make the 'cure' incredibly hard to obtain, or as a result of a big sacrifice, but at least give us the the possibility.
Btw, I recall reading (or possibly hearing in DA2) about a Warden who cured themselves of the taint. I'm almost certain it was mentioned in a text in game, or by someone you talked to. I know I didn't imagine it because I recall thinking of what that could mean for Grey Wardens everywhere. I think I'll look it up.
I've gotta wonder if Blackwall would even accept a cure, if one existed. He sounds like he's dedicated, and might feel like he's cheating his way past what all Wardens must go through.
But, I don't know.
See this is interesting; I was thinking of this also, and totally understand where you are coming from, but people do change in unexpected ways.
What I mean is, a man can be incredibly dedicated to his cause, and believe he will remain stalwart in his goal - accepting all that comes with it - from that day on; kind of like 'this is all that's left for me'. But perhaps Blackwall wasn't counting on falling in love, and suddenly there is this spanner thrown in the works. He may try to pull away to avoid the fledgeling feelings from developing further and causing both he and the Inquisitor pain when the inevitable comes to light, or perhaps he'll pull away because he believes it will be detrimental to his duty as a Warden. Of course, it's all for naught because she's just this constant temptation that makes his attempts at avoiding her - physically and emotionally - a big problem for party and battle dynamics, and something has gotta give.
What I love about this is that it allows Blackwalls turmoil to be explored, too; the way his steady and focused mindset struggles with softer feelings he may have believed he'd never feel again. It allows the writers to reveal what is hiding behind the wall of duty he puts up (pun unintended).
Of course, I know this is just speculation and could be as far from the truth as imaginable, but I do find it fascinating to ponder. ![]()
#6071
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 02:54
I've gotta wonder if Blackwall would even accept a cure, if one existed. He sounds like he's dedicated, and might feel like he's cheating his way past what all Wardens must go through.
But, I don't know.
I wonder if it would even work on someone who has the taint for a long time. Does anyone know how long he might be a warden? Or is it more like we know he's been a warden when he was younger?
#6072
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 04:10
That's another thing - there seems to be an assumption that because he's not a young man anymore that he must have had the taint for a long time, but I wasn't aware that there was a requirement for Wardens to be young in order to join (unless this is mentioned somewhere)? I, too, would be interested to know if anyone has info on this.
#6073
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 04:13
#6074
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 04:24
I've gotta wonder if Blackwall would even accept a cure, if one existed. He sounds like he's dedicated, and might feel like he's cheating his way past what all Wardens must go through.
But, I don't know.
I hope we can convince him to cure himself with a sound non-emotional argument as opposed to "don't go because i love you kind of thing".
kinda like (very surmised and compressed version)...this:
Blackwall: I fear I have to refuse the cure Inquisitor, It...wouldn't feel right to abandon this...my resolve.
Inquisitor: Soldier! State your duty as one of the Inquisition's generals!
Blackwall: *salutes* to protect and serve those who cannot protect themselves!
Inquisitor: sounds a lot like what a certain someone told me.
Blackwall: hmmph! It seems I'm at loss.
Inquisitor: Trust me, we'd lose a lot more if you weren't around. The inquisition and those it protects need you.
Blackwall: Heh, talk about teaching an old dog new tricks...I wager this ol' dog of war still has some fight in him.
Inquisitor: Come on, you're not that old.
Blackwall: *salutes and leaves with a smirk on his face*
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#6075
Posté 20 septembre 2014 - 04:31
So nobody has anything much to speculate about Blackwall's taint and a possible cure? I would have thought more people were thinking about it, as I was. I know it's not the most positive topic, but it's the elephant in the room, after all. It doesn't have to be a negative discussion, in any case.
Perhaps it's a case of people not wanting to speculate and get their hopes up? I can understand that, but I still believe discussing the issue will be a positive experience, because in the end if he does receive the calling and go to the deep roads, it will likely be a little easier to stomach if we're not blocking it from our minds and pretending it doesn't exist.
I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not Bioware has considered how this relates to our experience with Thane, and whether they plan to do something like that to us again or have thought of a way to rescue the situation with a cure (and what this could mean for all Wardens).
Purely in the interest of discussion.
I had answered, you just skipped over it ![]()
But beyond wondering if the Avernus thing bears any fruit I don't think about it. I prefer to have an empty slate and no expectations when I meet the companions so I'm not disappointed because they aren't what I had in my head. I like letting the writers tell me their stories. I know, I know...that probably makes me boring, but that's just how I am. ![]()





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