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[riverbanks]

That's another thing - there seems to be an assumption that because he's not a young man anymore that he must have had the taint for a long time, but I wasn't aware that there was a requirement for Wardens to be young in order to join (unless this is mentioned somewhere)? I, too, would be interested to know if anyone has info on this.

 

There's a letter from Blackwall in World of Thedas that places him as Warden-Constable at the time of the Fifth Blight in Ferelden. The Constable is the second in command after the Warden-Commander, so he wouldn't be a fresh recruit at the time, he'd need at least a few years of experience. That places him as being a Warden for at the very very least 12 years (the time span from Origins to Inquisition), plus how many more years it took him to be in a position of leadership.

 

I'd wager he's been a Warden for anything between 15 to 20~ years now too.

[Magdalena11]

So nobody has anything much to speculate about Blackwall's taint and a possible cure? I would have thought more people were thinking about it, as I was. I know it's not the most positive topic, but it's the elephant in the room, after all. It doesn't have to be a negative discussion, in any case.

 

Perhaps it's a case of people not wanting to speculate and get their hopes up? I can understand that, but I still believe discussing the issue will be a positive experience, because in the end if he does receive the calling and go to the deep roads, it will likely be a little easier to stomach if we're not blocking it from our minds and pretending it doesn't exist.

 

I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not Bioware has considered how this relates to our experience with Thane, and whether they plan to do something like that to us again or have thought of a way to rescue the situation with a cure (and what this could mean for all Wardens).

 

Purely in the interest of discussion.

It's not that anyone has nothing to speculate, it's that it's already been speculated to death.  Many times over.  The elephant in the room has been talked about to the exclusion of everything else in the room.  There might be a griffon in the room at some point (but probably not this game - the room's not that big) and there are some wardens in the room who've been up to something Blackwall might not like.  One corner of the room has a scientist looking into how to use the taint as a weapon (which might not be a good idea), and another corner has a bookshelf with all kinds of lore and research that no one has opened because the elephant is standing in front of it.  

 

With any luck, there will be some sort of confirmation one way or another so people can think and talk about something else.

[Eri]

I had answered, you just skipped over it 

 

But beyond wondering if the Avernus thing bears any fruit I don't think about it.  I prefer to have an empty slate and no expectations when I meet the companions so I'm not disappointed because they aren't what I had in my head.  I like letting the writers tell me their stories.  I know, I know...that probably makes me boring, but that's just how I am. 

Oh sorry, that wasn't my intention - I just figured you didn't want to talk about it since you mentioned you don't like the doom and gloom discussions.

 

A few people have mentioned the Avernus thing, but I wonder how strongly DLC and expansions (for those who mentioned the Architect) will be drawn upon for such a critical feature, if it does indeed happen. It's an interesting prospect, anyway.

 

I have no expectations in relation to Blackwall's fate, mainly because I still have Thane's end to remind me what it felt like to hope their was a cure and find none. I simply enjoy speculating about what could potentially work, or how Blackwall would react to the news of a cure, and what it could mean for him and his order.

 

Actually I did entertain the thought, for a while, that perhaps the two extra romances straight women were getting was meant to be a consolation for something like Blackwall dying ('sorry for Thane and Blackwall!'). Yes, I know, it's a pretty abstract idea, and it totally would never make up for losing Blackwall, but I found it an interesting thought. Whomever reads this, please don't take offense - I appreciate Cullen and Solas on their own merit, my mind just tends to wander during work..

 

Anyway!

[Eri]

Oh so it has been speculated over? I didn't know. I love Blackwall, but arriving late I wasn't really eager to read nearly 250 pages of posts to find out.

 

If people would rather not talk about it, I understand.

[Ashelsu]

The difference with Thane, I think, that people had this period between two games to build their hopes up. Why would they do this I don't know (not a fan of Thane and don't have much info on him), for me it was pretty clear from his very first scene. The problem was that he was created to be a lot of things simultaneously. An assassin, a philosopher, a samurai, a hero-lover and a worst case of Carth syndrome ever. Shepard's delivery was rather creepy also. "I remember my dead wife perfectly." - "I want you, Thane." And then they forgot that he was a romance. Along with Jacob, very frustrating experience for those interested in f/m relationships.

It won't be like this in the Inquisition. Whatever happens, happens during the course of one game only. Blackwall also doesn't look like the angst-feast Thane was. It's interesting that he is a core option for f/m romance, though. And for dwarven and qunari PC he is one of the two options (and I think he was the only one for the dwarven lady, before John Epler made his magic). Which gives me hope that he won't die 5 minutes after we meet him.

With postgame and DLC incoming, even if the Calling is in the picture, it will be the epilogue material, which I'm fine with. Developers said that not every romance will have a happy ending. Would I mind the healing though? No, of course not. Blackwall is the first male romance option in DA games that I'm interested in. But only if it is implemented well.

Inquisition seems to be a very ambitious and huge game which hits on several very important parts of the lore, Grey Wardens included. 5 Blights are behind us, 2 more to go. Unless something happens that will change the Grey Wardens - Archdemon - Darkspawn system completely. Which event I will be very curious to see.

[Magdalena11]

Oh sorry, that wasn't my intention - I just figured you didn't want to talk about it since you mentioned you don't like the doom and gloom discussions.

 

A few people have mentioned the Avernus thing, but I wonder how strongly DLC and expansions (for those who mentioned the Architect) will be drawn upon for such a critical feature, if it does indeed happen. It's an interesting prospect, anyway.

 

I have no expectations in relation to Blackwall's fate, mainly because I still have Thane's end to remind me what it felt like to hope their was a cure and find none. I simply enjoy speculating about what could potentially work, or how Blackwall would react to the news of a cure, and what it could mean for him and his order.

 

Actually I did entertain the thought, for a while, that perhaps the two extra romances straight women were getting was meant to be a consolation for something like Blackwall dying ('sorry for Thane and Blackwall!'). Yes, I know, it's a pretty abstract idea, and it totally would never make up for losing Blackwall, but I found it an interesting thought. Whomever reads this, please don't take offense - I appreciate Cullen and Solas on their own merit, my mind just tends to wander during work..

 

Anyway!

I think the extra romances might be consolation for Leliana being immortal and the male warden being able to make a baby with Morrigan.  Now female PCs will be able to romance a character guaranteed to appear in every installment or have their own child if that's what the player wants for them.  

[Wynnen]

I think the extra romances might be consolation for Leliana being immortal and the male warden being able to make a baby with Morrigan.  Now female PCs will be able to romance a character guaranteed to appear in every installment or have their own child if that's what the player wants for them.  

 

*giggling on the ground* Sorry just the way you said that is so.... so... 

[Magdalena11]

*giggling on the ground* Sorry just the way you said that is so.... so... 

It does come off as pretty ... um ... yeah.  I just think it would be nice if the same person didn't always wind up with the cupcake that has the least icing.

[Ashelsu]

I think the extra romances might be consolation for Leliana being immortal and the male warden being able to make a baby with Morrigan.  Now female PCs will be able to romance a character guaranteed to appear in every installment or have their own child if that's what the player wants for them.  

Sorry-not-sorry

 

http://epantiras.dev...ILERS-178844732

[Wynnen]

It does come off as pretty ... um ... yeah.  I just think it would be nice if the same person didn't always wind up with the cupcake that has the least icing.

 

No I actually quite adore that statement you made and not only because it made me smile like mad. Especially as I'm getting that extra icing this time around 

[Twilight_Princess]

 

With postgame and DLC incoming, even if the Calling is in the picture, it will be the epilogue material, which I'm fine with. Developers said that not every romance will have a happy ending. Would I mind the healing though? No, of course not. Blackwall is the first male romance option in DA games that I'm interested in. But only if it is implemented well.

 

 

Which is why I'm hoping they go for something unpredictable with Blackwall. His fate is only an assumption at this point. Just because he's older and a grey warden doesn't mean he's definitely gonna die. Remember how "certain" everyone was about how the romances would play out? Who would be race-gated? I have a feeling they'll try not to go down the usual boring route and only have the males die, have carth romances, only have them be angst ridden etc. I want them to surprise me.

[PunchySporkk]

Hiya.  I don't think I've posted here before, though I've lurked a bit.  Blackwall is rapidly becoming my favorite LI (though I bounce around a lot) because I think I'm in love with the heartbreaking possibilities.  I feel sorta terrible about it, but there's just something so painfully sweet about bringing a little joy to his (possibly) last few years.  I have a pretty bleak view of the wardens generally.  Tragic heroes and all.

 

So no word about his voice actor yet?  Do we know if he's Orlesian or what?  

[jtav]

Hi. Pull up a chair. No word on his VA, but he has a north of England accent. So he's probably not Orlesian.

[Rinji the Bearded]

We don't have a confirmation on his voice actor, but he definitely has a northern british accent, so he's likely not Orlesian.

 

Edit -- SHEESH JUST POST FASTER THAN ME OK 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Oh, here, have something I'm working on (haha like I finish ANYTHING):

 

Spoiler

[Kaidan Fan]

Oh, here, have something I'm working on (haha like I finish ANYTHING):

 

Spoiler

I love it!

[Saberchic]

Oh, here, have something I'm working on (haha like I finish ANYTHING):

 

Spoiler

Seconded!

[Eri]

Oh, here, have something I'm working on (haha like I finish ANYTHING):

 

Spoiler

Gotta agree, I absolutely love this so far  - beautiful line work, and I just love the blush and look that says she caught him totally unawares with the kiss.

[Killdren88]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet...Could Blackwall be possibly Grigor? The Big bearded burly man that Alistair mentioned when he first joined the Wardens who could out drink everyone?

[The Elder King]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet...Could Blackwall be possibly Grigor? The Big bearded burly man that Alistair mentioned when he first joined the Wardens who could out drink everyone?

They have different names.
He's not though, he was a Warden Constable at Val Chevin during DAO, and probably the six months when Alistair was a warden.

[Ashelsu]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet...Could Blackwall be possibly Grigor? The Big bearded burly man that Alistair mentioned when he first joined the Wardens who could out drink everyone?

Sheryl said he is not Gregor.

https://twitter.com/...976312795426817

Blackwall is not his real name.

https://twitter.com/...866298445885440

And while I'm on this, we can ask what is Blackwall's nation in the game.

https://twitter.com/...812047752593408

[GenericEnemy]

Blackwall is not his real name.

 

 

Wonder if romanced Inquisitors can start calling him by his real name eventually then...

[Chanda]

Wonder if romanced Inquisitors can start calling him by his real name eventually then...

I hope so! But what if his real name embarasses him, and he doesn't like it?