Finally, an age-appropriate LI for me!
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I'm going to keep posting in spoiler tags for a bit for the folks who haven't finished the game and/or romance.
Second day in a row for ToP. So have a Blackwall!
He's the best. I'll probably never be done gushing over him. Sheryl did a wonderful job writing him and Mr. Parker did an amazing job bringing him to life. 
Finally, an age-appropriate LI for me!
Not liking them young? 
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YAY today I got a lot of party banter and Solas 
commented on Blackwall and the inquisitor being together, so Dorian and Vivienne aren't the only ones to 'aknowledge' the couple 
He said he was happy we found some 'respite' in such difficult times and when Blackwall asked him if he had found his respite with somebody he replied he found it somewhere else
Well, if Catherine Zeta-Jones and Michael Douglas can hook up... *chuckle* Anyhow, just sort of gravitated towards Blackwall from the start - maybe it was the whole Warden thing, hahaha! I seem to be a sucker for them, because so far all my LIs have been one.Not liking them young?
Same here, actually! I went around flirting with everyone and ended up with him because he was basically the most realistic relationship to me and reminded me a little of my husband.
Reminds me a lot of my husband too, Well, except for the lying thing.....
Must be the beard.
Also that line he says about 'being able to breathe again' at the end after the fight. *le sigh* THAT is romantic in a very understated way.
(which is me irl, big gestures flowery things make me uncomfortable. the understated and calm is what really like)
Starting my second playthrough, and ahhhh! I so want to romance Blackwall again. But no.....must try one or two others....THEN I can continue to play through with my one and only
Do you have to get Blackwall's approval up high to learn about his secret? My BFF is about to finish the game and he likes her well enough, it seems (there's been no "I don't like you" convo) but she's still not triggered his personal quest and it's going to KILL ME if I have to wait for her next PT to talk about it...
...or does it come out no matter what?
You learn his secret no matter what from what I have seen. It triggers after completing Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts and Here lies the abyss quests. In both my play throughs (One romancing him, one not) that I got him to unlock his Revelation quest after completing those two story quests.
I think you need a decent amount of approval to get the quest to open.
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
What's it about? His "revelation"?
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
You shouldn't hate him because glorious beard is glorious!
But seriously, despite all his failings, I think he really wants to be a good man and make up for his past mistakes. You have to respect that.
Kinda need to know what you need to know by "hate." Do you hate what he does or do you hate him at a meta perspective (writing, etc)?
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
Him being a creep let you keep your waifu?
What's it about? His "revelation"?
That is the main thing, yes.
I utterly despise the character right now, yet I need him since I am doing a Nightmare run and him being the Champion specialization makes him invaluable in the party, so I need to find some way to temper that hatred.
Got a chance to start playing early today (no work - woohoo) and got two banters in close succession! Solas finally got around to apologizing (I you, Solas, even though, you know...stuff) and later Cole started asking Blackwall about his beard. That was fairly amusing, so you should probably stick them together just to experience it directly in the game, lol.
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
If you're determined to hate him, there isn't much anybody can say to change your mind.
But it might also help to understand what, in particular, you dislike. His story arc? His personality? The Beard?
Well needing to complete a Nightmare run, you could just tolerate him at a meta level because he's a good tank. You can appreciate him for that.
Maybe you can appreciate him wanting to put his body meat between you and danger? He's really submissive, too.
You shouldn't hate him because glorious beard is glorious!
But seriously, despite all his failings, I think he really wants to be a good man and make up for his past mistakes. You have to respect that.
Not really. Everything he is doing now is a failed attempt to wash the blood of his hands. He says he wants to save people, but it is his own soul he is trying to save.
Kinda need to know what you need to know by "hate." Do you hate what he does or do you hate him at a meta perspective (writing, etc)?
Hate what he does. Meta-wise, he is a greatly written character. Sheryl Chee did a great job.
Him being a creep let you keep your waifu?
That is true.
If you're determined to hate him, there isn't much anybody can say to change your mind.
But it might also help to understand what, in particular, you dislike. His story arc? His personality? The Beard?
Of the three listed, the first two, mainly the first. The beard is fine, and I wouldn't hate someone for their appearance.
If you hate what he does, you can appreciate the fact that he really hates what he does, too.
That is the main thing, yes.
I utterly despise the character right now, yet I need him since I am doing a Nightmare run and him being the Champion specialization makes him invaluable in the party, so I need to find some way to temper that hatred.
As a romantic partner I am kind of on the fence about him. But as a regular party member I think it's easy enough to forgive his actions. Everything we've personally experienced of him shows that he is in fact a good man and wants to help in anyway he can. Even his champion specialization says something about how he wants to protect his party members by shielding them from blows, etc. He stands on the front line to protect people.
I found it really sweet pairing him and Cassandra together. I like their dialogue. Blackwall is super sweet to her and she comments on how he is a good guy (mind you that was before the revelation).
Judge him by the things you witness him do
That is the main thing, yes.
I utterly despise the character right now, yet I need him since I am doing a Nightmare run and him being the Champion specialization makes him invaluable in the party, so I need to find some way to temper that hatred.
Well, you could go through the previous pages and find my gigantic essay(s) or the other Blackwall thread with similarly lengthy posts - I've probably written enough analyses about him for one lifetime at this point. I think the short version is that if you see things in black and white, you simply won't be able to forgive him for his past crime - that, or you're able to take into consideration the circumstances around what happened and his genuine remorse, and then you can work towards forgiveness. If you don't have room in your morality for forgiveness, then...I guess you'd better run with Cassandra - heh. *shrug*
Not really. Everything he is doing now is a failed attempt to wash the blood of his hands. He says he wants to save people, but it is his own soul he is trying to save.
Well, yeah. But at least he's trying to get some redemption. That's more than some people would. I'm not saying you should forgive him, but he's not running away from his past anymore and even if he helps people due to a selfish reason he's still doing some good. And through Cole you learn that he's not faking the guilt. I don't know how you feel, but to me trying to make something right is better than just admitting defeat and not doing anything at all.
Okay, Blackwall fans. I need help not hating Blackwall. Can you help?
You can hate what he did in the past without wanting to waste the potential that his life has.
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