Factually, only Knights take oaths. Usurping can happen and those men may never pay for it, IF they are successful.
Not really. All soldiers do, just maybe not as extensive as knights. Even today every soldier takes an oath upon enlistment.
Did you heard the part where Cole said that the family doesn't want him to ask for forgiveness?
Doesn't mean he shouldn't.
Wait, being executed isn't punishment for Blackwall? And he's not being punished sufficiently if he joins the Wardens or stays with the Inquisition or gets thrown into dungeon (as the case may be) either???? And it didn't matter that he was on his way to becoming an actual Warden? You seem, at this point, to have the attitude that there's no way that Rainier can make up for what he did no matter what he does. If he lives, if he dies...none of the alternatives seem like sufficient punishment for you - nothing is good enough for you, not even if he dies, lol.
Yes, killing someone who wants to die isn't punishing them since they are getting what they want. He wanted to join the Wardens, so again not a punishment. If you let him serve the Inquisition, he isn't punished at all. The only option that comes close to punishing him is letting him rot in prison, and even then that is something he is happy with.
And exactly, there is no way he can make up for what he's done. Those people he killed will always be dead.
I guess you have your answer at this point, don't you? Ditch him, and gear up Cass - dragons, ho! I do, however, find it entirely amusing that you're willing to blithely forgive Loghain for everything he did - and a lot of his actions either directly or indirectly involved trying to kill your Warden - yet you're waving it off as "he did it all for Ferelden!"
What about Duncan? What about all the Wardens and the recruits and Cailan and Cailan's men? For chrissake, Loghain had Arl Howe in his employ. Maybe you recall how Howe slaughtered the entire Cousland family? If you are as good as the people under you, well, I guess Loghain wasn't all that great. Now for all my loathing of Loghain, at least I could sort of respect him on a few points. But he betrayed his king - and by your black-and-white standards, that is high treason no matter how you want to look at it.
Again, it's mighty convenient how you're ignoring the whole "high treason" thing with Loghain.
Um, I never said I forgive Loghain. He dies in my playthroughs. I just said at least Loghain had somewhat good is severely misguided intentions rather than personal gain like Rainier.
Sure, Rainier took gold and sought his own advancement - it's de facto what you do in Orlais. Viv even says that you even have to learn to use servants to win at the Game. Rainier screwed up, and it all went wrong, but you can't wave off what Loghain did and call it okay just because of his motivations. You said you wanted us to convince you to keep Blackwall around, but clearly you kind of had your mind made up all along, and it was really just a pointless exercise in the end.
And we, at least, aren't guessing at much of anything regarding what happened or Blackwall's feelings about it, except, perhaps for inferring that Rainier couldn't act because he was maybe paralyzed by the realization that he was screwed either way. Cole's words are the literal truth of the matter - he can't and doesn't lie. But one last thing: for someone who has such a high opinion of the Wardens, you don't seem to be acknowledging that - in more recent times - a lot of their conscripts are criminals.
Hey, remember that one conscript in DA:O who was a thief? Or semi-cowardly Ser Jory? Not every Warden or conscript is of sterling character. I think Stroud was an ideal Warden, and they sure need more people like him, but please...let's not be hypocritical here. You can't say x, y, z about one person and then ignore the similar character flaws/deficiencies in others when it suits you.
And I hate Orlais for it. But I'm not going to forgive individuals because "it's just how they do things there". Again, I don't think what Loghain did was okay, just understandable.
As for the Wardens, I appreciate and respect what they do but I certainly don't have a high opinion of all of their members. Though I have to laugh how you think being okay with Daveth whose crime was pickpocketing means that one must be okay with a mass murderer and child killer, implying those are equivalent character flaws.
You have to remember that his men were innocent too. They had no idea what their captain sent them to do, they had no way of knowing anything until it was too late. And I bet they had families of their own, families who had to live with the shame and disgrace as Rainier's men got executed one by one. So basically he was picking between saving five innocent nobles or his men who were innocent as well (and by extension their families).
The fact that they let his second in command go when he claims all responsibility for what happens shows that if he stopped the attack, his men would have been spared.
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