I also love Blackwall's first flirt in Haven. Especially the direct approach, I went back and picked it just to giggle. "There are more compliments, if you'd like. I keep them in my private quarters." And then Blackwall shows up in her private quarters!
I did that. I laughed so hard at his response. It was the best! 
Blackwall for ToP:
That look, always so intense 
I'm just going to say...
Gideon Emery does Preitor Gavorn too! DAT LAUGH!!!
@Who Knows, I agree, I think he would have been reasonably popular too.
Also, am I the only one who thinks Blackwall and the Quizzy had sex after the kissing scene in her quarters, when he begs her to tell him to leave? The way they were kissing.. It seemed like it was a lead up to a suggested sex scene.
Yeah, I figured that with the bed right there...it totally happened - lol. My Quizzy would have dragged him over there if necessary. <.<
Yeah, I figured that with the bed right there...it totally happened - lol. My Quizzy would have dragged him over there if necessary. <.<
Eventually. I mean. The couch needs some attention too! And the floor. And the desk. And.. 
I think that makes Blackwall the quickest romance for sexy times. At least out of Solas and Cullen, he is. But we have no idea how long he's been alone. And I suspect he wasn't expecting to ever meet a woman like the Quizzy. And let's be honest, the Quizzy is pretty freaking amazing. Divine bad luck or not.
*snip*
Blackwall with a ponytail gives me life.
I prefer fem PC but I do like to change it up and play males too. I predominantly had female Shep still prefer her over mShep (who I only really rolled so I could romance all the ladies). I throughly enjoyed male snarky Hawke, he was so nice to look at all the way through the game too (Most handsome/attractive PC I've ever made.) Now the patch is up I get to see him again in full Frostbite glory.
I just need to get this playthrough done (I keep getting waylaid by all the other things I have to do) And of course constant trips to the barn.
It's Garrus all over again, except I'm not being told he's too busy calibrating.
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As far as the PC patch, it messed up graphics but there is a workaround posted by Conal Pierse until the hotfix is available on page 69 of this thread: http://forum.bioware...patch-2/page-69
And as far as Blackwall is concerned I was interested in him from the moment they showed his Grey Warden concept with Cassandra. I was not disappointed. I knew he was lying, but not what about. I loved him. I hated him. I cried. I stressed. I forgave. He was everything I wanted and didn't even know it.
thank you for the link, sadly on xbox 360 I don't have the graphics setting options so I guess there's nothing I can do about it 
Voted for Blackwall, he's gloriously the last in the standings but I guess people needs time 
I loved him. I hated him. I cried. I stressed. I forgave. He was everything I wanted and didn't even know it. 
<--- I will never thank you enough for this, it's simply perfect 
Voted for Blackwall, he's gloriously the last in the standings but I guess people needs time
That or a lot less people love child killers than you think.
I'm not surprised he's lower in the standings. Blackwall is like a fine wine, that has been left open, and there are fruit flies trapped in it, and everyone is like "how can you drink the wine with the fruit flies in it? so sad! it's ruined" and then you dump the wine in the sink when no one is looking and pour lower quality wine into the expensive wine bottle and then drink it in front of everyone and they're like JFC YOU JUST DRANK FRUIT FLY WINE and you smile mysteriously and then slide away, leaving people intrigued and giving you +10 court approval.
..I'm sorry, that got away from me, but I don't know how else to response to this: *shrug*
That or a lot less people love child killers than you think.
Wow, you're a right piece of work.
Is this directed to me? If so, is he or is he not a child killer?
That or a lot less people love child killers than you think.
That, or they could take the time to listen to the full story - including important things that Cole has to say about the incident and what happened - along with taking into account the man that he is now, but hey, flip judgments are easy.
That or a lot less people love child killers than you think.
You mean the same Cole banter where even he thinks he will never have their blood washed off his hands?
There's more to it than that, and maybe you could do your due diligence and go back in the thread and find what was posted when we engaged in more serious debate/discussion about this topic. I really don't need to write personalized essays for every single person who can't be bothered to go through the thread.
You're ignoring additional dialogue from Cole which makes it fairly clear that Rainier was unaware that the children would be there - that he was effectively duped into it himself (just like he duped his own men), and that by the time he found out, it was essentially too late to stop things from happening. Per Cole's line about the axes hammering at the carriage door and all that.
Yeah, he participated in a massacre - he admits it, everyone knows it, and we know it. But maybe you missed the running theme of second chances and redemption in the game. And should you keep Blackwall around, a lot of the companions work through it themselves and come to an understanding that he truly is a changed man.
I myself called him a self-interested pr--- for taking that money and for what he did AND for the person that he used to be, but he's not that same person, and he's done enough to show that he deserves a chance to atone.
Riiiight... I see you've played Mass Effect. I believe you let Mordin die on Suicide Mission in ME2 because he's a real child killer?
Anyway, before judging so strict, you really need to know the whol story of Blackwall.
S/he does, this is Kallen, the same person we've been discussing Blackwall with for a bit. Just with a name change.
and obv you know more about the thread
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Really? That's great news! I wonder why he admits to killing them in a carriage then if he isn't a child killer? /sarcasm
It isn't trolling when someone points out a crime the character did commit and even says they commit.
Let me put it clear: if you hate Blackwall and you didn't even care or didn't have time or the will to listen to his tale about what happened go open a thread intitled "Blackwall loathing: let's spit on the child killer folks!" and bye bye 
I'm frankly amused by the people who come here and complain because they find people who like him
Riiiight... I see you've played Mass Effect. I believe you let Mordin die on Suicide Mission in ME2 because he's a real child killer?
Anyway, before judging so strict, you really need to know the whol story of Blackwall.
No, Mordin dies in Mass Effect 3 curing the Genophage.
I know the whole story of Thom Rainier. I've played the game and experienced it plus heard people defend him for the events that transpired.
There's more to it than that, and maybe you could do your due diligence and go back in the thread and find what was posted when we engaged in more serious debate/discussion about this topic. I really don't need to write personalized essays for every single person who can't be bothered to go through the thread.
You're ignoring additional dialogue from Cole which makes it fairly clear that Rainier was unaware that the children would be there - that he was effectively duped into it himself (just like he duped his own men), and that by the time he found out, it was essentially too late to stop things from happening. Per Cole's line about the axes being at the carriage door and all that.
Yeah, he participated in a massacre - he admits it, everyone knows it, and we know it. But maybe you missed the running theme of second chances and redemption in the game. And should you keep Blackwall around, a lot of the companions work through it themselves and come to an understanding that he truly is a changed man.
I myself called him a self-interested pr--- for taking that money and for what he did AND for the person that he used to be, but he's not that same person, and he's done enough to show that he deserves a chance to atone.
There's no need to rewrite the essays. I've read them.
I'll never agree that he couldn't call the attack off. He heard them singing a lullaby before the axes struck, which means he had more than enough time to call it off.
I give him a second chance and an attempt at redemption. He just does it as a conscript of the Inquisition since that's the closest thing to a punishment he can receive.
Edit: oh hey, Kallen! Well my point still somewhat stands. Just friendlier.
Hello.
I knew I shouldn't of clicked on a blocked post. But hey sitting here watching my kid take 2 hours to eat their friggin' dinner gets a tad boring.
Here, have some Sera/ Blackwall banter on the lovely lady Josie, just to get the taste of disingenuous assertion out of the system.
Spoiler
Such a stalker. And a chivalrous one at that.
I already renounced that accusation.
I'm more bothered by the fandom moralizing I guess. Cool if you don't like Blackwall, cool if you want to discuss what you don't like, but sometimes these discussions get a bit...overboard...and that post gave me a "well MOST people don't like child murderers, unlike YOU PEOPLE" vibe.
Fiction is fiction, I don't want to have to justify and explain everything I enjoy. The characters I like do not always reflect my moral values nor the people I would want to befriend irl. The reason I enjoy it in a fictional setting is because you can have these kinds of complex feelings and discussions of "he did something terrible but also good things" in a low stress environment. It's that detachment we were talking about earlier. I have a small child and I am very protective of children, so if Blackwall were a person sitting in my living room, I would still have sympathy but it would be very difficult. Because this is a videogame, however, I can just make him a purple outfit and him on a war nug and be silly AND have complex feelings about him.
I know some people can't do that, they view characters as real people and judge them accordingly, but it's not a inherently superior way to engage with a piece of media and sometimes I feel like people forget that.
...I'm tired so idk if this makes sense, but there you go.
That wasn't intended. It was more a response to the vibe I got from the post I replied to that seemed to imply "Those who don't like Rainier will come to like him eventually", as if assuming any dislike for the character is misplaced or inappropriate.
As for it being a video game, it isn't just a video game for everyone. For some, like me, it is an escape from this world just like reading a book is since that's what RPGs are: books that you can be a part of.
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