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[Jaulen]

@Jaulen: Yeah, I kept saying in one or two other threads where this subject of the "ending" being lackluster was that the actual ending more or less consists of everything from the Arbor Wilds on - not just the fight with Corypheus. Yeah, maybe I'd have liked a little more oomph in the final battle, but the overall experience was enjoyable.

 

 

Yep, you don't generally win a chess match in one grand move.....it's whittling away the defenses and catching your opponent in a moment of error. 

 

Maybe more gamers on the Bioware Boards need to learn and understand chess.

[veeia]

I didn't need a more badass ending, but I felt the themes of the game weren't played with enough at the end in favor of a slap down boss battle. I don't hate it, but it could have had more depth. I will definitely defend it though, because a lot of people's complaints about it are obnoxious.

I am forever defending things I am not crazy about just because I don't like their arguments. Innate contrarian here, sigh, hehe.

[KealaFerret]

Jaulen - this game is causing more headcanon than any I've played so far. There's so many fantastic frameworks set up, that could use the details filled in. My imagination is happy to fill in those details.

 

The thing is, I'm happy to not have everything completely spoonfed to me. Give me some meat... but at the same time, as a game developer, it's hard to get EVERYTHING in and EVERYTHING right (especially as tastes differ so much from person to person). I'm ok with filling some of it in how I think it might have happened. That don't hurt me one bit.

 

... although my original characters will probably end up giving me a glare soon for how distracted I am. That, or they will try to invite Inquisitor Cadash and Blackwall over to get really drunk. I think I may have issues. I have subscriptions. A CLOSET OF BACK ISSUES!

 

I don't even visit da hater threads any more; between day job, running a nonprofit, recovering from an awful car accident, and actually playing DA:I... hours be in short supply. I'd rather hang here with you fine people.

[veeia]

Ahahhaa, choose the "Good, stay there." dialogue choice for "You have the whole world at your feet, myself included" convo with Blackwall. 

 

Result?

Blackwall slightly approves

"Any man would be happy to kneel before you" (paraphrased)

 

this man will be the death of me, i swear it.

(IM STILL ROMANCING SERA OK. WE'RE JUST HAVING FUN. LIKE FRIENDS DO. FRIENDS WHO CLICK EVERY HEART OPTION. FRIENDS)

[berelinde]

OCs getting Blackwall and Cadash drunk...

 

 

IDK. It's pretty obvious that Blackwall drinks, and he isn't reticent about it. Bring him to the Emprise du Lion and he's always saying how he wants hot, spiced wine. But I don't see him getting roaring drunk. Before the reveal, I think he'd be afraid that he'd do something that would blow his cover. After... I think he'd be reluctant to let his love see him like that. Yeah, I could definitely see him getting mellow and relaxed with a sociable buzz with people he trusts, but if he was going to do any *serious* drinking, I'd expect it to be after a staggering setback, and he'd be drinking alone.

 

But getting together with a group of friends (Sera, Bull, Dorian, and maybe eventually, Varric), I could see him knocking back a few and having a few belly laughs.

[Scuttlebutt101]

So I'm on my second playthrough, romancing Blackwall again. I've just completed "Explanations" and realized that I accidently gave them the red/blue theme.

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

(shamelessly promoting my PC here because I'm drunk I think she looks really cute in this one)

 

 

I swear it's unintentional. At least partly. I deliberately gave her her blue/cold tones theme from the start (and she mostly specializes in ice spells... that wasn't intentional either), but I didn't mean to make Blackwall "red to her blue" or anything, it just sort of... happened, lol. I actually like it though. I made it look all symbolic. My literature teacher would be proud.

[veeia]

Ahahah, I love that she's in Warden armor.

I love that armor, its gorgeous. I enjoy having my GW disbanding Quizzies wear it while condemning them, because hilarious.

[AtreiyaN7]

@scuttlebutt: Your character looks nice! I wish I weren't so lazy about the CC. I should probably have put in more effort into my second one, but after Quizzy #1 ended up with duck lips, I was like, I'll just take what I can get. At least official Quizzy #2 doesn't have duck lips now - lol.

[veeia]

My characters have a little oddness to them, but I like it. Makes them feel distinct!

Your Quizzie is lovely and distinct though. scuttlebutt! She's got an ethereal quality that isn't as generic as other pretty elves I've seen, nice job.

[KealaFerret]

Worth noting: my definition of drunk does differ from others. 3 glasses of wine and I'm yelling, talking smack, and tripping over chairs. 5 glasses of wine ended with me.... Er. Anyone play ME3 Citadel DLC? Grunt? I am Grunt. Passed out in the shower.

Take my "drunk" with a grain of salt.

On vacation for a couple of weeks after today, tomorrow might be "get the most out of pre-Revalations" day, and Saturday can be "tackle the quests that will break my heart" day.

[CredulousAlloy]

This is totally going to be me tomorrow night (if I were young, female and attractive, naturally):
 

 
I'm supposed to be going out for drinks with some friends but I REALLY want to finish this damn game so I can:
 
A. See the final scene of the Blackwall romance, and
B. Start a new playthrough, in which I'll be able to resist the lure of the beard and the sad eyes. My new Inquisitor will romance Cullen, Dorian, or heck, even Solas, but not Blackwall. Nope. Ser Beefcakes will be OFF the table this time around.

...I can pretend, right?

[Scuttlebutt101]

 

@scuttlebutt: Your character looks nice! I wish I weren't so lazy about the CC. I should probably have put in more effort on my second one, but after Quizzy #1 ended up with duck lips, I was like, I'll just take what I can get. At least official Quizzy #2 doesn't have duck lips now - lol.

Thank you! Ugh, I've spent more time than I'm willing to admit in the CC and deleted at least ten characters during and after the tutorial. I'm one of those people who need their characters to look ~just right~ or they won't be able to play the game. Thank goodness DAO had a face-change mod and DA2 had the mirror, or I would never have finished those. But that was on my first playthrough, at least now I know what kind of facial structure will be best for my elfquisitors. It doesn't even bother me that every elf girl I make from now on has the same face with different hair/skin/eyes, lol.

 

 

My characters have a little oddness to them, but I like it. Makes them feel distinct!

Your Quizzie is lovely and distinct though. scuttlebutt! She's got an ethereal quality that isn't as generic as other pretty elves I've seen, nice job. 

 

Thank you! I specifically wanted to make my Blackwall-romancing girls look all porcelain-doll-like and ethereal to complement his rugged looks. I like contrast in couples. If I ever get around to rolling a Trevelyan mage for Cullen, she'll be more plain and a bit unkempt, mostly due to years of life as an unwilling apostate, to contrast Cullen's perfect "pretty boy" look.

[veeia]

Nice concepts!!

I didn't make Hella for Blackwall, but I ended up loving it. He's tall, gruff, bearded, rugged in earth tones; she's short, fresh faced and freckled, with a mischievous glint and bright lips and purple tattoo.

[Bugsie]

Crikey, the elves are pretty (Scuttlebutt I hope you posted your lovely in the lady quizzy thread.)

I took a break from the game last night to do some Christmas shopping last night, but as of now I'm on holidays. Woooot!! I have some family plans this morning, but am free to indulge in some writing and possibly playing photoshop with my screenies later this afternoon. No guess as to who it will involve!

[Sabreenei]

I didn't make Kiara with Blackwall in mind, since I went into the game pretty much completely unspoiled, but making my next characters I definitely am thinking about what they look like with the love interest of choice. I also like to match up their backstory/backgrounds with how they look. I usually have my human mages look a little more cleaned up and polished (if they come from the circle, that is). I figure they have some magic to help them with any hairstyles and bathing. I usually go with lighter eyes for mages, I have this head canon that magic use sometimes shows in the iris. I have a rl friend who is completely into reading people's irises. She says you can tell health, and different aspects of the body by doing iris readings. I don't necessarily believe any of them (I may be a pretty big skeptic, in fact), but I loved the idea for use in stories, especially for magic.

 

For my Trev mage, I want her to look from a noble family and lived in the circle until recently. But I don't like them to look perfect, either. This might be my girl... but maybe not. I head canon that she was teased for her ears, and that was the first time they saw her magic flare up, when an older brother tweaked them one to many times.

 

Spoiler

 

 

I'm one of those people who spend days perfecting the characters. I *still* have not started my 2nd playthrough. All I've been doing the last couple days is making characters and taking screenies of them. Then staring at said screenies, thinking hmmmmmmm. Let's try again! Number 21, coming up! I do this every game. I loved the DAO toolset, because then I could spend forever saving and tweaking faces, and then bring them into the game. I probably had a hundred different face saves, lol. Without some way to save or tweak faces, I know I'll do this until I frustrate myself no end. Only when the frustration reaches it's pinnacle will I finally just point to one and go, YOU! You're going through the game! Right now!

 

The CC is like a game unto itself! I may be addicted to making characters. I may have a problem.

[veeia]

I am trying not to fall down the CC spiral until we get a DLC where we can tweak things. I am WAY too impatient to deal with the "almost perfect, must reroll" feelings. I admire you guys who do though! Sabreenei, I love that one you posted! 

 

I am like 99% happy with my first try tho. Unfortunately I can't access my dropbox rn, so now new high res pictures or anything, but let me spam u with my dorf again. <333

 

[Sabreenei]

I love her! Our first characters that romanced Blackwall are similar, well, except mine is human. But they are both red-haired rogues with a smart-ass attitude

 

The height difference is so adorable, too. Makes me think of switching the dwarf I'm creating for Blackwall. Maybe give Sera a quanari instead. She does have a thing for Quanari women, after all.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Yeah, I've got a second playthrough for my Trevelyan waiting in the wings, with a tweaked face.  Still waiting to see if there's a face-editor DLC in the future, too.

 

 

I did my best to portray her as playful but classy, teasing Blackwall but also adoring him and being inspired by his selflessness (and, well, she thought he was pretty hot too).  She is well-studied and trained but never had the opportunity to apply those skills to something bigger than herself.  Prefers diplomacy and careful thought, but she's learned some hard lessons, too.  

[Miss Greyjoy]

My first Inquisitor was super sweet and naive. She was pretty, but when she smiled, she looked like she had buck teeth. I imagined her as being the type of shy girl who covers her mouth with her hand when laughing, out of self-consciousness. LOL. Blackwall was totally smitten with that little Dalish angel.

[Sabreenei]

Love the coloring on her! You can see intelligence behind her eyes, too. I think it works well for a Trev to be an archer, since that is something she could be trained and study at, just like she might music.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Look here.

 

http://forum.bioware...tion-character/

 

I guess it's hate-blackwall-week.

 

In all seriousness though, I think I've gotten over it. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Eh, it's typical -- a companion/character betrays the trust of or disagrees with the know-it-all PC and THEY ARE THE WORST EVER THE END.  People are free to dislike whoever they wish, I just tend to notice a pattern.

 

My favorites from DA2 are Carver (who was majorly disliked for being contrary) and Merrill (who is disliked for not listening to Hawke) so I'm pretty used to it by now.

[Ynqve]

I'm not surprised that people dislike Blackwall. It's easy to see how someone would think he's boring and then get furious when the things they do know about him prove to be false. You need to bring him with you and have luck with the banter to get to know him, specifically I think you need to get the banter between him and Sera. I liked them both more after each banter they had, but if you find Sera irritating and/or Blackwall boring then you're not very likely to pick them for your party. 

 

Blackwall's not a flashy character like Dorian or Cole. He need more time, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people who find him dull now will change their mind after one or two more playthroughs. 

[panichord]

I'm not surprised that people dislike Blackwall. It's easy to see how someone would think he's boring and then get furious when the things they do know about him prove to be false. You need to bring him with you and have luck with the banter to get to know him, specifically I think you need to get the banter between him and Sera. I liked them both more after each banter they had, but if you find Sera irritating and/or Blackwall boring then you're not very likely to pick them for your party. 

 

Blackwall's not a flashy character like Dorian or Cole. He need more time, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people who find him dull now will change their mind after one or two more playthroughs. 

Part of his appeal to me was his dull less forward character. It made him a mystery that I wanted to know more about. Hm, I am bit surprised he is widely disliked. Sadly, I haven't followed through on romancing him, but it does have some nice angles to play off it.

 

Excuse the interruption, just wanted to chime in!

[Ynqve]

Part of his appeal to me was his dull less forward character. It made him a mystery that I wanted to know more about. Hm, I am bit surprised he is widely disliked. Sadly, I haven't followed through on romancing him, but it does have some nice angles to play off it.

 

Excuse the interruption, just wanted to chime in!

 

I agree, and it makes sense that he's not in your face begging for attention. Unfortunately that makes him boring to some.