@jaison: The only Warden armor I've ever gotten (as far as I can recall) is some Warden mage armor which has the typical Warden colors. I don't think I ever got any heavy armor like that, though. Maybe try silverite as your main component when crafting? I do wonder about the heavy armor schematics - maybe I ought to pick up that perk if I can still get more perks at this point, heh.
Maybe veeia will be able to comment (I think she's the armor crafting pro in here).
@jaison: The only Warden armor I've ever gotten (as far as I can recall) is some Warden mage armor which has the typical Warden colors. I don't think I ever got any heavy armor like that, though. Maybe try silverite as your main component when crafting? I do wonder about the heavy armor schematics - maybe I ought to pick up that perk if I can still get more perks at this point, heh.
Maybe veeia will be able to comment (I think she's the armor crafting pro in here).
Oh yes, I know that one. I got it from an apostate mage in that map were you fight the Avvar warriors. I also heard you can loot it from an high dragon. I managed to make Blackwall's armor to look like this:
But the color scheme was all wrong, with an mix of red and green. So I just wonder if I can find the schematics and color it as I please.
Note to self: try to recreate that look later.
Let's put it this way: you can have a future with Blackwall if you believe in redemption, which is, of course, one of the fairly obvious themes running throughout the game. I guess the question is just how much you can forgive and whether or not you consider his remorse and his change to be genuine (most people here who are fans of the romance obviously feel that his character growth is legitimate).
If he seems "too principled," then I think it's because he's been overcompensating just a bit due to his own past. It's fairly obvious that he's at least somewhat afraid of becoming the person he used to be again, so I suppose he can go overboard a bit. He doesn't want to be the person that he used to be at all. If you do stick it out, well, he'll pretty much be by the Inquisitor's side forever (unless you want to give him to the Wardens, and then I guess it's a roll of the dice as to whether or not he ultimately survives any future Joining).
The redemption isn't going to be a problem. Well, his lack of honesty is obviously a problem for the romance, but nothing that can't be overcome. I'm not sure how I'd be roleplaying this, but IMO it shouldn't be insurmountable. As for his past as such, he genuinely regrets it - at least that's how it comes across to me - and has already started down a different path, so I can give him a second chance. In fact, the only problem is not about Blackwall at all, but how I'm justifying my decision as the Inquisitor and not have it come across as "I give my loved one a free pass". That's going to require some serious thought. It's far easier to not give him to the Wardens and let him stay if I'm not in a romance with him.
Fwiw, my perspective is that's its way better for him to face himself as his own man, instead of using the Wardens as a security blanket for his actions.
I'm now picturing Blackwall doing this.
Thank you. 
@ieldra: Ah - well, regardless of your Inquisitor's romantic status with him, I think there's merit in keeping him on purely as a talented warrior/soldier if you're trying to justify it to yourself at least. The man is a tank par excellence, but I think it's obvious that everyone outside the whole situation is probably likely to view your actions as simply giving him a free pass because your Inquisitor has a relationship with him. *shrug*
And yeah, I prefer to let him atone as a free man - I think it's ultimately better for him that way. I tend to agree with veeia that the whole Warden thing is a bit like a security blanket. He needs to stand on his own and not have any crutches post-Revelations. Also, I'm perfectly okay with admitting that it's partially for selfish reasons (me, I'm not really willing to roll the dice on the Joining - heh).
I'm kinda on the fence about sending him to the Wardens/give him his freedom. I agree about the Wardens being a security blanket, but I think that he would be a really great asset to the Wardens and they could use every sane person the can get. Idk, I feel like they need him more than the Inquisition. And it would be awesome if he becomes a griffon rider xD
I think he'd do well in the wardens. He already got the speeches downpact as seen from Adamant. XD
(Plus I really want those rose tinted glasses he has regarding the wardens broken hard.)
@Ieldra -- Blackwall is accustomed to spending time alone so whatever path you choose, it should be perfectly fine imagining the Morrigan/warden scenario where they each have their own travels. Grey Warden angle is obvious, the redemption/cleaning-up-messes/make-amends angle also works for the other one. He went around training people to be better soldiers, to stand up to bandits. And I would not overthink trying to avoid the appearance of a free pass. Sometimes we experience dialogue we hadn't heard before or we hear something in the moment and get a different perspective on how to play things out. I unintentionally got spoiled on Revelations before I was at that point in the game so I knew what the scenario was, but not what was said. I worried that I was going to have to give him to the Grey Wardens to be "fair," but based on my conversations, it became obvious to me that Blackwall needed to join the Grey Wardens of his own accord. I couldn't decide his redemption for him. Pulling him out of that jail WAS giving him the free pass. I overrode the sovereignty of another nation to get this to play out my way. I don't think it ultimately matters what you decide to do with him. The fallout has already happened by that point.
I think he'd do well in the wardens. He already got the speeches downpact as seen from Adamant. XD
(Plus I really want those rose tinted glasses he has regarding the wardens broken hard.)
He would do pretty well in the wardens, but I'd prefer him to the inquisition.
I'd personally like to think that given time, the likes of 'Blackwall' could be a special title amongst the Grey Wardens for a warden showing excellence--maybe as an unofficial 'who's who' among the wardens.
...Well, if the wardens can remain in Orlais anyway.
And yeah, I prefer to let him atone as a free man - I think it's ultimately better for him that way. I tend to agree with veeia that the whole Warden thing is a bit like a security blanket. He needs to stand on his own and not have any crutches post-Revelations. Also, I'm perfectly okay with admitting that it's partially for selfish reasons (me, I'm not really willing to roll the dice on the Joining - heh).
Exactly. If the joining was 100% safe, then my Inquisitor would think about it, but the way things are - nope. If he didn't survive the joining, she would have sent her lover to his death. I can't imagine her even considering this option, she's just selfish like that. I can imagine a non-romanced quizzy doing it though (as if I'll ever make one haha).
I'm kinda on the fence about sending him to the Wardens/give him his freedom. I agree about the Wardens being a security blanket, but I think that he would be a really great asset to the Wardens and they could use every sane person the can get. Idk, I feel like they need him more than the Inquisition. And it would be awesome if he becomes a griffon rider xD
I think wardens is best because it feels balanced, somehow? He gets an chance to atone while at the same time he doesn't get away scotch free with everything he has done. Not to mention I like his ending speech if you take him to the final battle "How many wardens recruits get to say that they defeated an darkspawn magister?"
He would do pretty well in the wardens, but I'd prefer him to the inquisition.
I'd personally like to think that given time, the likes of 'Blackwall' could be a special title amongst the Grey Wardens for a warden showing excellence--maybe as an unofficial 'who's who' among the wardens.
...Well, if the wardens can remain in Orlais anyway.
Oh he would I prefer him there.
I wouldn't go that far though XD
I don't see why they wouldn't remain in Orlais though. Despite the drama with Corypheus they pretty much are the only ones who can end blights and I don't see Orlais willingly getting rid of them if there's another option.
I think wardens is best because it feels balanced, somehow? He gets an chance to atone while at the same time he doesn't get away scotch free with everything he has done. Not to mention I like his ending speech if you take him to the final battle "How many wardens recruits get to say that they defeated an darkspawn magister?"
I agree, and to me giving him his freedom feels like you're abusing your power. Especially if he's romanced. On the other hand, I will feel like such an idiot if he doesn't make it through the joining. This was one of the hardest choices I made on my first run, in the end I sent him to the Wardens. I was so relieved when I finished the game and realized that he was still there xD
I mean by that point when it happened I didn't think twice because id been doing it all game, might as well get some fine fake Warden ass out of it. 
Oh he would I prefer him there.
I wouldn't go that far though XD
I don't see why they wouldn't remain in Orlais though. Despite the drama with Corypheus they pretty much are the only ones who can end blights and I don't see Orlais willingly getting rid of them if there's another option.
Honestly, I can see Orlesians trying to use them as mercenaries, only to fail.
And while I haven't played origins (and I understand that with any organization you have both your good and bad,) it seems a waste to have a group of people filled with those WILLING to fight the good fight just to make sure the world doesn't end..
Man, I'd hate to see what the sixth blight is like without them..well, other than 'doom, doom, doom.'
Honestly, I can see Orlesians trying to use them as mercenaries, only to fail.
And while I haven't played origins (and I understand that with any organization you have both your good and bad,) it seems a waste to have a group of people filled with those WILLING to fight the good fight just to make sure the world doesn't end..
Man, I'd hate to see what the sixth blight is like without them..well, other than 'doom, doom, doom.'
I don't think they'd do that. The wardens are pretty keen on their neutrality. But I can see the Orlesians invading under the guise of offering "support". But yeah exiling them is a waste. I wish I could just do it temporarily because they're too easily manipulated by Cory so I'd want them gone until he's dead.
But you're stuck with BE GONE FOREVERZ! or to forgive them so :X I usually just exile them because the risk. I just wish I could say it was only til Cory was defeated. Alas.
But yeah it'd be the first blight all over again. That'd be fun.
Well, if you keep the Wardens around, they do prove their utility through a series of war table missions. I figure it's reasonably safe if you make sure they're nowhere near Cory.
Well, if you keep the Wardens around, they do prove their utility through a series of war table missions. I figure it's reasonably safe if you make sure they're nowhere near Cory.
Eh the war table missions I had got them wiped out because the Ventoari exploited their weakness to them.
I almost felt bad.
Almost.
You wiped them out on purpose?
Speaking about abuse of power: My Inquisitor is a dweeb who would have been happy dealing with nothing more urgent than brushing scone crumbs from her spellbooks for the rest of her life. Instead she's forced to deal with the fate of nations, because people who see her as a symbol are showering her with what she considers unearned power. All she wants to do is read, and maybe enjoy some Blackwall related extracurriculars, man. I like a good power fantasy, but I feel like the PC's ascent to power was not as deftly managed as in previous titles.
That said, she's not going to use her power to spring Beardy out of jail via Cullen or Leli, because she knows she'd never hear the end of it. But she will let him atone through continued service to the Inquisition.
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