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Blackwall Discussion Thread -- The Resolve! [Voiced by Alastair Parker]


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I heard sometimes your UI might go wonky if you have mods, but I thought (maybe?) they got that sorted with the mod manager... but maybe? Who knows?!

 

I agree, no one should leave their Hawke or do testing if it isn't for fun! Mine is all fun and science and I'm just replaying leaving my Hawke on my already finished playthrough, so it's not for reals. I couldn't leave my *real* customized snarky Hawke ever.

 

That's why I made a game state where I have some fake Hawkes (I have wayyyy more Wardens from DAO than I do Hawkes, so it works out) that I can sacrifice and keep Alistair a warden.

 

I have so many things going on right now, that I can't get in some good serious gameplay. When I play for real, I like to get into my character and go for a few hours without interruption. Since I can't do that atm, I'm happy to jump in and out of different characters, trying different things.

 

This is more akin to when I'm playing with mods. In fact, since I'm redoing the ball right now, it might be a good time to test out the ball clothing mod!

 

@Bugsie: I am in love with that picture. So happy you posted it!


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#10677
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Kaidan Fan, Veeia & Bugsie (and anyone else that left Hawke in the fade and/or got the extra dialogue),

 

Could you answer these extra questions:

 

Did you do Hushed Whispers/Mages or Champions of the Just/Templars?

 

Did you Ally or Conscript?

 

Did you finish Keep the Darkspawn down (killing the darkspawn on the Storm Coast) by the time of judgement: Yes, No - didn't have the quest, No - didn't start the quest, No - started but didn't finish the quest, or I have no effing clue! lol

 

The well choice and arbor wilds should have nothing to do with it, since that happens afterwards. Just trying to think of other things that could flag the conversation!

I've not had the conversation on any of my 3 play throughs. 

 

1rst did Champions of the Just/allied with Templars/finished Darkspawn on Storm Coast/did not drink from the well/Blackwall gave speech

2nd did Hushed Whispers/conscripted the mages/finished the Darkspawn on Storm Coast/did not drink from the well/Blackwall gave speech

3rd did Champions of the Just/allied with Templars/finished Darkspawn on Storm Coast/DID drink from the well/Didn't take Blackwall (Cass in his place).

 

All of them talked to Blackwall on the ramparts before talking to Hawke.

 

Hope this helps to further narrow down some stuff!


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One quick question: does anyone have this on some characters and not others, or does it appear to be all characters for a single person? 

 

Also, I do happen to have a mod installed (to change the color of my clothing). I doubt that's what's causing the issue as I will bet lots of people are hitting it and I'm sure they don't all have mods installed, but it's got me thinking about something being funky in the actual game files. 

 

Can people also confirm if they've patched to the latest version? 



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....oh, well I haven't updated my mod tools in awhile. So maybe it is that. Haha, silly me then, complaining when i am the one who broke it. :lol: thanks!

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I got it with one character and didn't on a different one.

 

Have mods installed. And patched! 



#10681
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@veeia: Did you customize Hawke on one and not on the other? Or default Hawke on both?



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OK, I just discovered dialogue that I never had with Blackwall. I reviewed my screenshots and noticed that I met up with Hawke/Stroud in Western Approach and dealt with Erimond. From there, I went straight to the war room and started "Into the Abyss." I had no idea that there were special star dialogue with Blackwall that pertained to the urgency of stopping Corypheus in Adamant (in which I asked what we'd find in Adamant and how his state of mind was with the calling). Just found it while reloading saves. PROBABLY not related to the dialogue bug, but I thought I'd point it out just in case.

(Oh, and the star dialogue stuff was gone post-Into the Abyss. No longer available. So that's why I never realized.)
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#10683
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Yes, I have gotten those before! Easy to miss, for sure. I love discovering new stuff like that. :D

 

Default Hawke on both....I think...I will have to go back and check. I got to the Nightmare demon on Nightmare and it was uh....a Nightmare. So I'm taking a break to strategize and rethink it (and update my mod stuff so the UI is there, I'm sure the battle will be much easier then hahaha), and before I do that, I'll check on what Hawke I did with Olim.

 

edit: Okay, I checked my screenshots. It's default male!Hawke. 


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Reinier's "That's!...... That's fair...." comment when the my Inquisitor breaks up with him during the judging in Skyhold by picking the "Love you but can't trust you anymore" is a good piece of voice-acting: you can feel his heart cracks open when he said that.

 

Sorry folks; after thinking about it, my current Inquisitor just can't accept Reinier back in a romantic relationship, even if she sees fit to rescue him from Orlais' prison.

 

I feel kind of bad about it, to be honest, hahaha.



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Oh god I haven't heard that, I bet it is heartbreaking. Totally get why someone would pick it too. Ouch.

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@banana: Now I need to go hear that...ouch, ouch, ouch...well, I guess I'm never doing that again, but you are right - it was a good piece of acting. I loaded it up and tried it, heh...ouch.



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Haa I'm such a coward, regarding picking certain choices, I hate being mean sometimes.

 

Every time I hear harsh words to Blackwall from my quizzy's mouth I have a Ralph Wiggum moment.

 

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#10688
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I physically can't pick that option with Hella. I just can't.

 

....okay, now I have to. For character growth?? And pain???

 

I won't even lie though, I'm such a wuss, I'll have to immediately reload and make out in chains to feel better. Lmao at that Ralph gif, yup, that's it. 


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Alastair Parker is one of the best VAs in the game IMO, bar none. The prison scene and everything after it cemented it. 

 

"No matter what I was or what becomes of me, right now...I'm just a man with his heart laid bare. I leave it in your hands." 

 

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#10690
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Who's your avatar Generic Enemy?  He looks broody and beardy too!  :lol:



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The other one is even worse. I can't remember the exact line, but he's all "You said you bore no love for me....I cannot believe that is true" or something and I'm like CRYYYYYYYY OF COURSE ITS NOT TRUE SLKSJFSLkjl

 

Yeah he's great. He and Ramon and Miranda are probably my favorites, but dang, they're all so great. 



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*snip* I feel kind of bad about it, to be honest, hahaha.

Totally understandable, and also the sign of a well written character, I think.

 

Running around Crestwood with him, Solas and Sera right now, and got the cutest banter where Sera decides she's going to take a leaf out of Josephine's playbook and be a seductive wordsmith, lol. The way Blackwall ruefully chuckles "Oh, Sera, I do love you" just put a huge grin on my face. Even if I don't romance him again (er...how?!), I have to keep these two together in future playthroughs.


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@veeia: That's exactly what I did. I had to reload and then take him back and do the PDA in chains! EDIT: In prison, I did say I didn't love him...but I didn't meeeeeean it - I was just playing it as my Inquisitor being really upset (besides, it makes it more dramatic during the judgment scene).

 

@generic: Yes, the prison scene was amazing - the self-loathing, the guilt, and the pain! And the judgment...yeah, I kind of couldn't say no to him after the "heart laid bare" line (this one-time experiment with the breakup line in the interest of science, notwithstanding).


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Who's your avatar Generic Enemy?  He looks broody and beardy too!  :lol:

 

Clive Standen. Particularly Clive Standen as Rollo Lothbrok in Vikings.

 

Fans of broody, beardy Blackwall would probably appreciate him. :3  :P

 

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#10695
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I'm definitely appreciating that picture... *whistles innocently*


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#10696
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I found this - I'm sure you've seen it.

 

I'm cracking up here imagining Blackwall behind the mike  :lol:

 

Especially with the 'Wherever you want to go, Landrover can take you there'

 

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"make sure your night out doesn't leave you behind the wrong sort of bars" ahahahaHAHHH I mean I listened to his voice reel before I played the game, when they figured out the actor, but it is especially endearing now that well...you know. /easily amused. 


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I wonder what it's like to be a voice actor....like you just go about your day to day, and probably people don't ever really recognize you, but then if you google your name, you find a bunch of randos on the internet going PANTRY DROPPING MELTY SWOOOOOOON. :lol: I imagine it's surreal. But not...terrible. 


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Oh God, that's hilarious...LOL..I just can't even...also, that's almost enough to get me to watch a rugby game...



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I suddenly want to own a landrover, I mean with that voice, he surely can't lie about being able to take you wherever you want to go. Right?
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