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[veeia]

Just fade stomped Hawke with my Sera romancing Adaar and did not get the special dialogue. (I was correct, the NM demon was a lot easier when I could actually see the UI...thanks for the mod tool top, lmao, I would not have thought of that)

Too tired to write up all the variables tonight but I will enter it in tomorrow.

[Xetykins]

Just finished the wall's revelation. Im a bit disappointed there's not a lot of it after i kept him. I would have liked more option to grill him on his past more. Preferably with him butt naked face down across my lap.
But nevermind. The whole throne scene was really sweet. Snogged him in front of the whole court shamelessly.

[AtreiyaN7]

Just finished the wall's revelation. Im a bit disappointed there's not a lot of it after i kept him. I would have liked more option to grill him on his past more. Preferably with him butt naked face down across my lap.
But nevermind. The whole throne scene was really sweet. Snogged him in front of the whole court shamelessly.

Ah, you kind of missed the thing a couple of pages back where we discovered that you actually are supposed to be able to ask him some additional questions afterthe judgment. Unfortunately, it's basically kind of bugged for most of us (so far, it looks like veeia is the only one who actually got to ask him the extra questions).

[KealaFerret]

Entered mine. Also cracracked open the talktables using DA_Tools, but weirdly, a lot of stuff isn't in there that I know is in the game. I don't know if it's how I'm extracting the stuff or what. I identified some chunks to review later.

Also found a lot of the plot flag stuff, but I don't understand what it all does. I don't see being able to chance any of it, but i'm hoping working out some triggers may help. It's not easy to parse these files, though!

[Xetykins]

Was that in the prison? I was able to ask him something there but not when he's back in the stables

[Bugsie]

Back at the stables, it appears most people didn't get the further dialogue after revelations. I couple of us did, and did we conclude it might be tied to Hawkes fate in Here lies the Abyss?

[Xetykins]

Meh ok. I guess i got hit by that bug then since i only got the cats (?) and egg convo with him after.

[veeia]

I was considering looking through those files too Kaela, but oye. "Difficult to parse" is an understatement. Good luck!

Xetykins, it is indeed back at the stable, so sounds like you didn't get it either then.

[veeia]

I just left Hawke and still didn't trigger it; so while it's possible that's A variable, it likely isn't the only one. No idea at this point, basically all my theories are shot...at least theories about one single action, idk about combos yet.

[AtreiyaN7]

@Xety: Yep, it should happen in the stables like Bugsie said.

And of interest to everyone else, I got that interactive banter involving Cassandra and Blackwall while I was in the Emerald Graves. Wow, Cass was reeeeally laying into Blackwall. Per what I said in another thread, I was so surprised that I ended up hitting that "Leave him alone!" option as soon as it popped up. However, I did save shortly before it happened, so I reloaded my earlier save in the hopes that this thing pops up again. I kind of want to see if it plays out differently with the other options - heh.

But that'll just have to wait until tomorrow,

[Sabreenei]

I went back on my first girl and left Hawke, then tried a couple things (starting explanations directly before going through the eluvian w/Morrigan, not exhausting his convo at the jail, choosing different dialogue options, etc) but never got the conversation to fire. I have a couple things I still want to try, but at this point I'm thinking it's something earlier in the game.

 

So probably not worth sacrificing Hawke, just for a chance at getting a dialogue. Unless you were planning to fade stomp Hawke, that is! (I know I will be leaving a default Hawke when I have a Grey Warden Alistair!)

 

We have 38 responses on the form so far, and only 6 of those have gotten the conversation. So either it's random, or there's something minor somewhere that a smaller group of people are doing/not doing. 11 people have left Hawke in the fade, 5 out of those have gotten the end dialogue. One person says they got the dialogue *without* leaving Hawke, so that throws a wrench in everything

 

I really miss the toolset from DA:O! Made it so easy to open up save games and plot flags and dialogue! I guess we should just be thankful this isn't something like the Zevran's earring bug, or the various bugs DAO was plagued with. Thank god for the modders on that game. I used all the dialogue patch mods for Alistair & Zevran!

[Sabreenei]

Entered mine. Also cracracked open the talktables using DA_Tools, but weirdly, a lot of stuff isn't in there that I know is in the game. I don't know if it's how I'm extracting the stuff or what. I identified some chunks to review later.

Also found a lot of the plot flag stuff, but I don't understand what it all does. I don't see being able to chance any of it, but i'm hoping working out some triggers may help. It's not easy to parse these files, though!

 

No more likes left! First time it's happened to me, lol. So just have to say, you brave brave soul for opening up the talktables here. I took a quick look, but they were so different from what I saw in da:o and da2, I just didn't understand it at all! I might have another go at some point, when I feel like getting my brain cross-eyed.

[GreenClover]

I went back to my original game, and replayed the end of Adamant (thank god for all those saves!). When they get back from the fade & Hawke is saved, Blackwall has the option of giving a speech to the Wardens.

Whoa, I never got that option! It was just Hawke and my Quizzie discussing what they should tell people and then Quizzie making a speech by default (I could only choose whether she says that Stroud died a hero, or that he died because of the Wardens' stupidity).
Or perhaps I misunderstand, and you are talking about the option before the Fade? Where Blackwall can convince Clarel and the others to give up on their ritual?

[Sabreenei]

Whoa, I never got that option! It was just Hawke and my Quizzie discussing what they should tell people and then Quizzie making a speech by default (I could only choose whether she says that Stroud died a hero, or that he died because of the Wardens' stupidity).
Or perhaps I misunderstand, and you are talking about the option before the Fade? Where Blackwall can convince Clarel and the others to give up on their ritual?

 

Could be I was remembering wrong! I didn't play the whole quest over, just the ending fight in the Fade, and then the scene when you get back from the fade. I was thinking my first go around, when Hawke & I came back, I got one of those star dialogues to encourage the Wardens on what to do next, now that it's all over and they have no senior wardens left. But maybe it was a different conversation I was remembering!

 

I know in the dialogue after Blackwall's judgement, when you talk about the wardens, there's a star option there, to remind him how he inspired the Wardens.

[GreenClover]

I know in the dialogue after Blackwall's judgement, when you talk about the wardens, there's a star option there, to remind him how he inspired the Wardens.

Funny thing, I get that star option even if I talk to the Wardens myself with a history perk. It seems that if you took Blackwall there, the game thinks he talked to the Wardens even when he did not. Oh well, maybe he inspired them by his presence alone.

[KealaFerret]

I don't mind it so much, digging through files.

But I may get my husband involved at this rate; he's a voiceover audio producer and has some experience on debugging audio issues. He doesn't know Frostbite or a lot about how DAI is set up, but I ran it past him and he may take a look.

Does anyone have any other examples of dialgue thay doesn't seem to trigger in some circumstances?

An interesting thing I saw in the talk tables is that there's some stuff about approval levels. From what I can venture a stab at, it looks like the game may treat romance the same as max approval for purposes of most conversations that are approval gated.

I can extract audio and have generally pinned down where this should be, so tonight I'll take a look, find the audio in question, get what it's identifier is, then use that to see if I can work out any trigger points.

Argh if there was a way to open DAS files beyond basic stuff (hey but I can get my character's full appearance xml code, which if I had a way to make a chance and wedge it back in, I could get rid of my lip shine, although I'd likely have better luck finding a way to just mod it).

...urge to do a gray in beard mod is rising. But all the stuff how to build a mod goes right over my head.

[GreenClover]

Does anyone have any other examples of dialgue thay doesn't seem to trigger in some circumstances?

I never encountered this bug myself, but I saw people complaining that Solas wouldn't comment on your mage inq's specialization if you have a romance with him. Maybe you can look for that dialogue for an example.

[veeia]

Hrm....You are supposed to have the option to talk about Mythal to Morrigan, instead of having her explain Mythal to you, if you're Dalish, but it's bugged.

[Catwall]

Someone in the "too much fan service" thread says that there's a scene where Blackwall gets paraded naked in front of Cullen, Josie and Leliana, and I'm like "Really?" Because I think I'd remember that. Did I blank out? Perimenopause has taken a toll on my memory, so I guess it's possible.   Or is this one of "those" topics, wherein someone is not happy about seeing male objectification in their vidya?

[Ynqve]

Someone in the "too much fan service" thread says that there's a scene where Blackwall gets paraded naked in front of Cullen, Josie and Leliana, and I'm like "Really?" Because I think I'd remember that. Did I blank out? Perimenopause has taken a toll on my memory, so I guess it's possible.   Or is this one of "those" topics, wherein someone is not happy about seeing male objectification in their vidya?

 

Whaaat? I seriously doubt that scene exists. And if it does, then I need to see it, for science! xD

[Catwall]

Whaaat? I seriously doubt that scene exists. And if it does, then I need to see it, for science! xD

Right?! I was so excited. Bioware stuffed Inquisition with the wrong kind of bears!

[Ynqve]

Right?! I was so excited. Bioware stuffed Inquisition with the wrong kind of bears!

 

You've got that right! Oh well, at least we got the saucy romance card.

[veeia]

Whaaaaat. SCREW THE DIALOGUE BUG, ALL RESOURCES GO TO THE NAKED SCENE BUG.

...I'm sure they dreamed that up but what a beautiful dream.

Now I just want to play around with the files, frustrations and confusion be damned, but I am currently being an Awesome Mom and letting my small child play this mature rated video game and he's repeatedly running Solas off a cliff and laughing at the noises he makes.

[AtreiyaN7]

Someone in the "too much fan service" thread says that there's a scene where Blackwall gets paraded naked in front of Cullen, Josie and Leliana, and I'm like "Really?" Because I think I'd remember that. Did I blank out? Perimenopause has taken a toll on my memory, so I guess it's possible.   Or is this one of "those" topics, wherein someone is not happy about seeing male objectification in their vidya?

 

As much as I wish that were actually in the game, I'm 99% that it doesn't exist. Maybe that poster got confused over the Wicked Grace scene where Cullen streaks?

 

EDIT: Oh, I read that - yeah, he's just talking about Iron Bull and how he's able to read people like Blackwall in an instant. Then he talked about Iron Bull's big reveal I believe - hahaha. He wasn't really paraded, though - more like they all paraded in and saw Iron Bull in all his glory.

[Catwall]

As much as I wish that were actually in the game, I'm 99% that it doesn't exist. Maybe that poster got confused over the Wicked Grace scene where Cullen streaks?

The OP clarified that they were misremembering- it was indeed Iron Bull's love scene that was meant. Such a pity!