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[Bugsie]

The Dalish and their lore have become more interesting to me the more I get into the series, I like elves but I don't call myself crazy about them.

@Michelle, those screenies are absolutely stunning! Thankyou for sharing them.

[Basement Cat]

My work here is done.

 

*swishes away into the night*

Fancy yourself a corrupter of innocence, eh? Well, Sir or Madam, I throw down this surgeon's glove and challenge you to a Battle of Filth! Let the innuendos fly!

 

How low can you go?

[Kaidan Fan]

Exactly. A more realistic metric for assessing the quality of lore is how much cohesion does it foster within the culture it serves- and from that angle, Dalish lore is pretty successful. It doesn't make them more interesting to me though. I've just never been keen on DA elves. *ducks incoming pies*

I am notoriously guilty of saying mean things about the dalish to my friends.  In fact I told them before DA:I came out that it was going to turn out they were their own downfall and not the humans.  I was right.  Like always!   I also called Flemth being Mythal about 6 months before it came out.    I never got past Ostagar on a dalish play through.  But playing one in this newest game wasn't so bad and I'm not sure what the difference was.

 

So it's almost the weekend and I should be able to get some serious Blackwall romancing in finally.  I keep trying to play video games, but I start them up and then go afk forever and just come back to the comp to turn them off *sigh* 

[abnocte]

 

 

 

 

Hi.

 

You're not missing the banter between Solas and Blackwall about elven beardlessness because of the banter bug. It was pulled out of the banter array and made to not trigger because it actually contradicts Word of Gaider (i.e. canon).

 

So, what happened was I wrote a bunch of banter while tired and obviously confused about the state of elven facial hair. The banter I wrote got voiced, and then one day, just to be sure, I checked with David Gaider about elven beards. The conversation went kind of like this:

 

"Hey, can elves grow beards?"

"No."

"Er, really? I wrote a banter referencing elf beards."

"You should probably delete it."

"I will."

 

So I went off and tried to make sure that this mistake of mine would never see the light of day. Of course, people dug around in the files and found the soundclips.

 

I would urge you to interpret that banter as Solas trolling Blackwall.

 

 

Haha, thanks for the clarification!

 

Funny thing is that after reading this I remembered that back in the day I had actually checked in the CC if I could give male elves a beard, d'oh!!

 

Silly me  

[Bugsie]

Fancy yourself a corrupter of innocence, eh? Well, Sir or Madam, I throw down this surgeon's glove and challenge you to a Battle of Filth! Let the innuendos fly!
 
How low can you go?

Not so much of intentionally trying to corrupt the innocent, more leading by example!

By all means, take the reins! But be gentle, you don't want to break them in to roughly.

[Basement Cat]

Not so much of intentionally trying to corrupt the innocent, more leading by example!

By all means, take the reins! But be gentle, you don't want to break them in to roughly.

I like the way you think! And of course I shall use a gentle hand. A slow, careful approach ensures that things run smoothly. We don't want to hit snags of any kind. Those tend to ruin the mood.

[veeia]

I really hated what happened with the Dalish in the game. Not the idea of it, which is touching on concepts that I find fascinating, but because it's not viewed through a Dalish lens at all, even if you play as Lavellan( unless I guess Solasmance kind of?) which makes it feel kind of cheap to me. Tbh I really don't feel like the series overall treats them with the nuance I'd like. I'm not a Dalish stan by any means in that I don't think they're perfect or 100% victims, but I do enjoy them...and it gets frustrating, haha. A lot of the interesting threads about faith get kind of dropped though, so, shrug.

Blackwall's arc was much more satisfying on a "this is the truth" level. When I think of "objective truth" vs "narrative", I think the interesting part is not how they are different, but the tension between them and how someone exists there and how they define themselves in that space and how that changes and hurts or helps them. He just gets all those lovely shades of grey and ambiguities and meaty things to chew on, and I don't think they did that with the Dalish, shrug. Probably would have helped if we at least had a Dalish companion, because it's Dorian's view that frames our evolving understanding of Tevinter.

[Gilsa]

As always, you have an eloquent way of getting to the heart of the matter when sharing your thoughts. I don't gravitate to the Dalish, but I love watching people get passionate about the race and share the why of it. I live vicariously through their perspective instead of fumbling about and feeling like a fraud when I don't even know what the tattoos signify. I would not be worthy of Solas in the slightest.

[Joe25]

As always, you have an eloquent way of getting to the heart of the matter when sharing your thoughts. I don't gravitate to the Dalish, but I love watching people get passionate about the race and share the why of it. I live vicariously through their perspective instead of fumbling about and feeling like a fraud when I don't even know what the tattoos signify. I would not be worthy of Solas in the slightest.

The tattoos signify hundreds of years of epic failure, and why literacy is very important in the overthrowing of great nations. 

[MrsHairyMcLummox]

Don't know if you've already seen this, it looks very promising 

 

http://thievinghippo...s-a-history-1-8

[abnocte]

I really hated what happened with the Dalish in the game. Not the idea of it, which is touching on concepts that I find fascinating, but because it's not viewed through a Dalish lens at all, even if you play as Lavellan( unless I guess Solasmance kind of?) which makes it feel kind of cheap to me. Tbh I really don't feel like the series overall treats them with the nuance I'd like. I'm not a Dalish stan by any means in that I don't think they're perfect or 100% victims, but I do enjoy them...and it gets frustrating, haha. A lot of the interesting threads about faith get kind of dropped though, so, shrug.

*snip*

 

*Emphasis mine*

 

After playing the whole Arbor Wilds the only thing I could think of was: "And this game was human only before!?"

 

The main reason I like being able to choose a race is to look at the world the game presents to me "through their eyes". We can craft our inquisitors however we want of course, but adding the cultural nuances created by the devs can allow me to experience the same story in so many diferent ways...

 

My Lavellan was overwhelmed, overjoyed and sad at the same time at the temple of Mythal, those feelings and the reasons behind them can't be applied to any other race.

 

Even if the game doesn't really show things through a Dalish lens even when you are playing one, I was really glad that I could have a Dalish be at the discovery of a small piece of Elven history.

[Bugsie]

I'd really like to know why I can't stop obsessing about this guy.

 

So I dragged my pencils out again, did some you tube tutorials to remind myself how to draw and here is the finished product.

 

Spoiler

[Basement Cat]

I was scouring Tumblr and found this. I think it's supposed to be Hipster!Blackwall.

 

Spoiler

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[Bugsie]

Noir maybe?

[Basement Cat]

Noir maybe?

Ooh, imagine Blackwall as a hardboiled detective!

[AtreiyaN7]

As a Dojima-style hardboiled detective!

Also, my laptop finally arrived yesterday - the not-so-great news is that after reinstalling the game...it doesn't look like my saves were ever synced with the cloud, so I started over again. On the plus side, the game looks great and I made a near clone of Kara #1. I'm not sure if I like Kara #2's nose, but I suppose she's okay overall.

Also, playing with everything on ultra with amazing frame rates, wheeeeee (dear ATI/AMD, you can suck it - I will never go back to you after switching to nVidia and having no problems with SLI!). Time to find Blackwall again later so that I can see him with everything on ultra (which would include his beard).

[veeia]

*Emphasis mine*

After playing the whole Arbor Wilds the only thing I could think of was: "And this game was human only before!?"

The main reason I like being able to choose a race is to look at the world the game presents to me "through their eyes". We can craft our inquisitors however we want of course, but adding the cultural nuances created by the devs can allow me to experience the same story in so many diferent ways...

My Lavellan was overwhelmed, overjoyed and sad at the same time at the temple of Mythal, those feelings and the reasons behind them can't be applied to any other race.

Even if the game doesn't really show things through a Dalish lens even when you are playing one, I was really glad that I could have a Dalish be at the discovery of a small piece of Elven history.

Yup. I was really annoyed when I realized that the initial plan for that level was a human choosing between themselves and another human about who is gonna take and then essentially weaponize sacred knowledge that belongs to elven culture. And because I prefer to play as a dwarf, I basically had to do that anyway, but at least there is a chance to make that decision as an elf, you know? This is another reason I wish that Morrigan had been replaced there with Merrill, or even Briala, because she's not Dalish but she is at least elven...or we'd had a Dalish companion, or we could have destroyed the Well or somehow preserved it. Gack that quest drives me batty. such a cool idea and a beautiful level and Abelas is such A wonderfully realized NPC who makes the most of his screen time, but I can't get over the limited options and perspective there, haha.

Yay for your new computer, Atreiya! When you find Blackwall, take some sexy ultra screenies for us.

[Gilsa]

This is a really wonderful commission of Cadash/Blackwall. I'm especially drawn in to how serene and peaceful Blackwall looks. He's not a man of many words, but his face says it all. (I don't consider this NSFW, but they are unclothed and it's from shoulders up. Just saying.)

 

http://cartaboss.tum...st/110833574748

[Jaison1986]

How do you guys usually build Blackwall? I'm on the fence if I should have his final talent be to the death or unbowed from the vanguard tree. Wich would you guys recommend?

[Ashelsu]

I would take to the death, it's great against bosses, esp. Dragons. He doesn't really need unbowed after getting all these champion abilities. All are useful but the first.

 

I started nightmare playthrough as a mage. First impressions:

1. Tutorial boss is an ultimate SOB

2. Mage's starting abilities are not inspiring at all.

3. Demons really don't like mages.

 

In case somebody missed, some features of Patch 5 (WIP).

http://forum.bioware...black-emporium/

 

Looks really juicy! Autoatack, storage chest, black emporium and dyes for gear.

[Jaison1986]

I actually loved the first boss. I really like pride demons. Everything about them screams badass. Totally agree about mages starting abilities however. flash fire is crap.

 

Thankfully, with the black emporium, I will be able to color Blackwall's armor with Grey warden colors. That would be the best.

[Ashelsu]

Heh, well I became lazy playing on hard with a 2H Templar, I was never actually good as a mage ("Wynne and Bethany, here is you tactics, you'll be alright, yes? Thank you!"), so the result was something expected. Thankfully there were NPC helping and distracting the demon.

[Jaison1986]

Don't worry, if you become an Knight enchanter playing mage will be totally Worth it. And then you will feel like a warrior all over again in no time.

[Cypher0020]

the new pride demons look to much like the ogres to me.....which was lacking in DAI too 

 

I love the Lavellan/Blackwall romance too

 

I only have to get his artifacts from the western approach

[Ashelsu]

That's the plan. I ran with Vivienne a lot, mostly directed her to inferno, but I don't know. Maybe wiil try electricity this time.