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[d1ta]

Hi, Blackwall fans, got a question for you (sorry if this has been brought up already) but is there any unique mention by the exalted council if you release Rainier by:
A. Asking nicely from the Orlesians
B. Let someone else die in his stead
C. Storm the prison and get the Orlesian guards killed in the process?

I'm attempting a perfect run and prefer to map out the outcome of each lf my choices mighty thanks in advance.

Blackwall is an awsome friend to my femQuizzy and apparently good friends with my quizzy's beau too ^^. Never get the vibe about him being boring (or maybe just because he's nice that's why people tend to lable him as such. I get the impression of him being that strong and loyal battle veteran with few words, but will share a few jokes on occasion).
Btw am I the only one that has an itch to ditch his gray warden armor design XD ?(since I spare him and make him join the Inquisition willingly) I was like, "The Hell Dude, you're one of us (inquisition) now, and not one of them (wardens) ."

[Gilsa]

I checked my screenshots. I didn't see anything acknowledging how Blackwall's release was handled -- just the matter of the Grey Wardens and who rules Orlais.

 

And no, you're not alone. The Grey Warden armor is somewhat out of place after Revelations when he's not maintaining that identity any more. Probably extra resources they didn't have time for (notice he still asks to be called Blackwall for the rest of the game to keep it simple) and there are other non-GW armors that can be equipped on him technically speaking. Totally get what you're saying though.

[d1ta]

Hey Gilsa, thx for the speedy reply. Much appreciated

Yeah I know we can dress him up on othe armor, it's just that the best armor will always be the ones we crafted and he happens to be my 'bread and butter' companion, so he'll always be decked with custom gears

... Here's to hoping for modders fixing his (official inquisition) armor X)

Edit: spelling

[AtreiyaN7]

@d1ta: I have to admit, I've kept Blackwall in Warden-themed armor just because he looks good in it. Maybe it's time to expand my crafting horizons, though - I did get new schematics in Trespasser.

[Scuttlebutt101]

Apparently, some of the nobles in Skyhold throne room comment on the quizzy and their LI every time their relationship progresses. Their comments on Cullen's romance are on youtube, but I haven't found anything on Blackwall. I think I managed to trigger one after the battlements cutscene. I don't remember much from it, but it started with "Has there been... an exchange?" (basically wondering if they were doing it). At least I think they were discussing quizzy's romance. I tried to trigger the gossip again after the cutscene in quizzy's quarters, but nothing. I tried reloading, running around in Skyhold and coming back, doing stuff outside Skyhold and coming back, but nothing. Either there's nothing after committing to romance, or there's something but my game doesn't want to share it with me, again. I've completed Blackwall's romance 2 or 3 times now, but I never realized that some random nobles were gossipping about it, even though I run past them at least a couple dozens times a day. I'm curious about what they might say about Blackwall after his judgement.

 

Dooooh, I had forgotten about his sister and the significance of flowers to him. I didn't even think of that. Good mention.

 

Edit: I saw a "this is what happens when you take too long to recruit Blackwall" video shared on tumblr. I thought it was from someone in this thread. I'm gonna have to dig back into my loooooong list of likes just to find the source again. The additional dialog was definitely new to me and worth sharing in this thread.

 

Edit 2: That didn't take as long as I thought, yay. Here's the link to the Blackwall video. Worth seeing: http://thievinghippo...adness-i-forgot

Ooh, nice find! So... I take it the quizzy can't romance him in this scenario?     It would be weird if she could since there was no build-up in Haven. I wonder how does the battlements cutscene play if he's recruited late, if it even plays at all. I'm almost tempted to check it out for myself, but all my current quizzies have have already recruited him, and are either in Skyhold or a few steps away from IYHSB.

[d1ta]

Apparently, some of the nobles in Skyhold throne room comment on the quizzy and their LI every time their relationship progresses. Their comments on Cullen's romance are on youtube, but I haven't found anything on Blackwall.
..(snip)

I think the nobles will have the same gossip with every LI, iirc they basically just say the same thing.
Somehow my game also has difficulties in trigerring banter/talks/gossip. The amount of gymnastics I have to perform just to hear some npc talks.. not even funny. I don't know why, though. Some people just manages to triger them easily *shrugs*

@AtreiyaN7: He looks good on his warden armor alright now if only I can stick a different badge on the griffon emblem.. btw does he get another armor design on treaspasser or somethin'? Cos if he does, that'll be great

Edit: another typo. Sigh. Mobiles.

[AtreiyaN7]

@d1ta: I did get what felt like a boatload of schematics in the new DLC, but I was rushing through to get to the end, so I haven't had the chance to make any of the new gear yet. I'm hoping for something nice somewhere in there - will have to see later the next time I pop into DA:I and try to craft some of it.

[Bugsie]

I definitely have heard the gossip. I have some saves I'll try and capture some to post here for you!

[Silent X]

@ Bugsie

 

Very well said! I honestly wouldn't blame anyone for breaking up with him during Revelations. That's a hell of a test to put a relationship through, and sometimes the relationship just can't take that. A friend of mine told me he'd been romancing Blackwall and broke up with him after finding out the truth, although in his case the crime itself seems not to have been the main motivation. He described his character as a "diva" and said he'd started romancing Blackwall because his romance came up early and he assumed he could "hit it and quit it," and that his Inquisitor didn't want to be with Blackwall anymore because dating a Grey Warden wasn't helping to make her more famous anyway, and a fake Grey Warden was useless. The utter shallowness there tickles me. I'm not sure if I could have stayed with him if he had killed Callier's children deliberately. Knowing that he hadn't expected them to be there made the whole mess easier to forgive. What he did was terrible, but he had some trace of a conscience even then, and by the time his past comes out in the game, you've had time to learn what kind of man he is now. (A damn good one, if I may say so.)

 

The fact that he committed treason purely for money feels to me like an indication that he was always a man who needed a cause, but for the majority of his life he didn't have one, and just had this feeling that he was missing something he needed. Since he had never had a cause to invest himself in, he couldn't figure out what was missing from his life, and living in a society where money was portrayed as a ticket to happiness, he tried to fill that void in his life with money.  

 

I'm sorry you missed out on a lot of banter.  I think one of the patches was supposed to make it fire more regularly? Do you do multiple playthroughs? There are some awesome banters out there, including some good ones between Thom and Iron Bull (since you mentioned Bull falling under the radar for you).

 

re: the romanced Warden ending in Trespasser. It is fitting, though the vagueness of it still bothers me. Why wouldn't the Wardens include a note? I realize they can't go into detail on epilogue slides, but if the intention really was for him to be dead, I don't see why the package didn't include a note from the Wardens informing the Inquisitor of his death in the line of duty (or, if they wanted to leave that door open a crack just in case, it could say he was missing and presumed dead). The lack of closure there still bothers me. And in my own case, I feel like my Inquisitor's ending already had enough bittersweetness in other respects and that Thom dying just made it too bitter for me, which is why I'm now replaying. That ending makes sense, I just can't accept it. Fortunately I'm better at time magic than Alexius ever was, and can go back and change it.

 

Oh, and speaking of Sera, did you read her journal in Trespasser? Her notes on Thom's and the Inquisitor's relationship are adorable!

 

@ Gilsa

 

Thanks for the video! I would never have found out about that!

[Bugsie]

I think that's apt description about him 'needing a cause'. I can see him as an idle young man who's talents were never put to good use, and as a consequence, left to his own devices he did some stupid things. It makes me think that maybe as a child and a teenager he didn't have the best role models to guide him through the formative years, to tell him right from wrong and it was only after he met Blackwall that he met someone willing to help him, guide him and assist in turning his life around.

Oh and Sera's journal 'Rainier hugs harder than Blackwall' *wipes away tear*

[Gilsa]

Hmm. I don't recall comments specifically on their romance other than the bartender, who pretty much says the same thing about all LIs. I looked through my screenshots and rounded up all the Blackwall/Grey Warden references I've heard in a playthrough in both Haven and Skyhold if you're curious. There was one playthrough where I was very thorough and ran around in circles in Haven, Skyhold, Val Royeaux, etc every time I progressed the game forward. I was mainly looking for dwarf comments so the Blackwall stuff was a bonus. (NPCs even acknowledged the loss of Hawke in the Fade, which was unexpected.)

 

Haven portion:

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Human spy: “And you’ve seen no signs of the Grey Wardens anywhere?”
Dwarf spy: “No.”
Human spy: “You’re certain?”
Dwarf spy: “Wait, by the Stone, Grey Wardens, you said?”
Dwarf spy: “No.”
Human spy: “We’re not paying you to be sarcastic.”

---

Human spy: “There’s a rumor the Wardens have a presence over on the Storm Coast. Do you think you can find a reason to travel that way?”
Dwarf spy: “I can sell lyrium just about anywhere. I’ll let you know what I find on the Storm Coast.”

---

(After recruiting Blackwall)

Dwarf spy: “I met Warden Blackwall. Seems to be a good man.”
Human spy: “He’ll be an asset if we have to fight darkspawn, at least.”
Dwarf spy: “Don’t be a fool. Grey Wardens can kill anything that crawls, walks, or flies.”
Dwarf spy: “The rest of you surfacers should take lessons.”

---

Human spy: “I spoke with Blackwall. He didn’t have much to say about the Grey Wardens.”
Dwarf spy: “Why should he? Their deeds speak for themselves.”
Human spy: “I’m beginning to think you only came to the Inquisition once you couldn’t find them.”
Dwarf spy: “I wouldn’t have minded joining the Wardens after my exile, true … but your Inquisition will do.”
Human spy: “I’m pleased to hear it.”

---

Dwarf spy: “No Grey Wardens on the Storm Coast. Just bandits, and plenty of them.”
Human spy: “You escaped without trouble?”
Dwarf spy: “Well, your Inquisition forces are already working to clear them out.”
Dwarf spy: “Besides, no profit in attacking a wagon full of raw lyrium. Kills you surfacers like that.”

---

Human spy: “Where are those blasted Wardens? If they’re not on the Storm Coast …”
Dwarf spy: “What’s it matter? Unless you start seeing darkspawn, just assume the Wardens are tending to their own.”
Human spy: “I don’t trust anyone who thinks themselves beyond the laws of men.”
Dwarf spy: “Your own Inquisition is ignoring the Chantry.”
Dwarf spy: “Besides, the Wardens remembered Orzammar when the rest of you surfacers couldn’t be bothered.”

 

Start of Skyhold (under construction)

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Human 1: "What's the Chant say about this? I never paid attention."
Human 2: "A-holes kicked in the Maker's door. He made them darkspawn. That's why there's Blight and we have to give Wardens our weapons. You still miss that bloody sword?"
Human 1: "It was a good blade!"
--
Human 1: "Has there been an exchange?"
Human 2: "You're awful!"
Human 1: "Not that. Gifts. Or perhaps betrothals."
Human 2: "Of a sort. Very romantic."
Human 1: "Vicariously satisfying."
--
(Humans, second floor of tavern by the stairs)
Noble 1: "We are assembling quite the influential list of allies."
Noble 2: "'We' could have stopped before that Blackwall."
Noble 1: "There are few orders as legendary or prestigious as the Grey Wardens."
Noble 2: "They can just up and take your wares. Anything. Thieves hiding behind Blight."
--
(Dwarf bartender -- he says this before Blackwall even shows up in the bedroom, odd)
Inquisitor: "What's the word out there?"
Bartender: "A few complaining that you've got time to bed your allies. I don't judge. Much."

 

Skyhold, post Adamant (Wardens banished)

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Soldier 1: "I hear they're gone. The whole Order."
Soldier 2: "Thank the Maker. Nothing but trouble."
Soldier 1: "I still think they could have helped. Corypheus is definitely blighted."
Soldier 2: "Right. Always the expert."
--
Soldier 1: "Were you there? Did you see what they did? Straight across the throat. Like it was nothing."
Soldier 2: "Sh-t. What goes on in their heads?"
Soldier 1: "Blight. Blight goes on. Never forget that."
--
(Dwarf bartender)
Inquisitor: "What's the word out there?"
Bartender: "Opinion on keeping Blackwall is mixed. Like oil and water."
--
(Healer)
Healer: "I wonder what it is that gives Grey Wardens their legendary skill and stamina. I should like to study one. Would that fine fellow I've seen in your company consent to a careful examination?"
--
(Inside Skyhold throne room)
Human 1: "We don't have the strength of treaties to judge a true Grey Warden. Heroes, them. Saved us all a while back."
Human 2: "A sad lot, their lives."
--
(Second floor of tavern)
Noble 1: "You heard what they did out there. At Adamant."
Noble 2: "I did. I don't see why it concerns you."
Noble 1: "We still got one of them here. What if his mind goes too?"
Noble 2: "Clearly our Warden is of sterner constitution."

 

Rainier revealed and arrested in Val Royeaux

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Human 1: "There is no doubt. Captain Thom Rainier."
Human 2: "He wore the shield."
Human 1: "That is concerning, yes."
Human 2: "Concerning? He's a butcher."

 

Val Royeaux, post-Revelations

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Human 1: "Too good for him, if you ask me."
Human 2: "A warden no more. But he may as well have been. Where did you think they came from?"
Human 1: "I don't know! We only ever saw them when they were saving us."
Human 2: "No one wants to think about how the sausage is made."
Human 1: "What is that supposed to mean?"
Human 2: "You're tedious and I'm hungry."

 

After WEWH and Revelations completed (atoned)

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(Second floor of tavern)
Noble 1: "I just saw him walking free."
Noble 2: "That was the decision, and it was well considered."
Noble 1: "After what he did?"
Noble 2: "I knew many killed in war. Sadly, in a game of power decided by heirs, only one target matters."
Noble 1: "You're a cold ******, you know that?"
--
Noble 1: "I refused to sell to him. To his face."
Noble 2: "That is your right, although I wonder what it achieves besides lightening your purse."
Noble 1: "Made me feel good. Someone needs to remind people when they're sh*t."
Noble 2: "You're a warrior of morality who sends evil tumbling."
Noble 1: "Should have spit in his beard."

 

@Bugsie -- Hope I didn't step on your toes! I had this open in the background all evening and didn't see your post that you'd look up some dialogue, too.

[Bugsie]

No probs Gilsa, it's been a glorious day here and I've been in and out of the garden pottering about, I haven't got to do anything as yet, now just lazing on the couch.

[Gilsa]

@SilentX -- My favorite relationships in the Bioware franchise have been Alistair, Kaidan, Isabela, and Blackwall. The one thing they have in common is that they all put the relationships to the test and the protagonist has decides if they want to walk through fire for that person. I feel like this approach makes relationships stronger and you know you're all in, carrying each other's burdens from here on. (Alistair is the one exception since that relationship did not survive, but it had potential for a reconciliation before Hawke was announced as the next protagonist!) My sister made a joke to my husband at our wedding: "No refunds." Once in a great while, when a bad argument breaks out (it happens to the best of us), we'll reconcile and one of the things we say is "no refunds." Ya know, for good or ill. But yeah, the children were the dealbreaker. I had a toddler sleeping on my lap when Blackwall's crimes came to light. That just really sucker punched me so I had to really ponder my feelings AND my character's feelings. If he had put a blade to them personally, that would have been the end of it. Clearly this was meant to evoke strong emotions in players so I am super curious about the writing process, if there were other ideas that ended up on the cutting room floor. That dog story is terrible though. I'm grateful we don't hear it on a romanced playthrough. Sheesh. =p

[d1ta]

@Gilsa: thanks for posting those banters X)

People in this thread are awsome

[Bugsie]

@Gilsa, yeah sucker punch was my reaction too. I also have a wee one, possibly one reason why it hit me pretty hard. But I say you don't necessarily need children to have been affected by it.

And yeah, I only heard the dog story second hand and then through my second pt with my male character.

[Silent X]

@ Gilsa and Bugsie

 

I can't even imagine what it's like to hear that part if you've actually got kids. I have two little nieces, but they live quite a ways away and I haven't even met the younger one in person. I found the Callier Massacre horrifying enough as a non-parent. But knowing that he hadn't intended to kill children and that he was clearly consumed with regret over what had happened kept me from seeing him as a monster. My Inquisitor fell in love with him because he seemed honorable, compassionate, down-to-earth, and sympathetic toward mages. Finding out about the massacre was devastating, but ultimately, his behavior validated her previous impression of him. The fact that he'd committed a terrible crime was balanced out by the fact that he'd turned himself in when he could easily have evaded justice. And the fact that he had kept trying to warn her away from loving him suddenly made sense, as she realized that he had been carrying an enormous burden of guilt for his past actions and really hadn't wanted her to get hurt. It was a lot to take in, but in the end, she concluded that she had fallen in love with the man he is now, not the man he used to be, and that she did want to find a way forward with him. I still had to take the direct option at the end of his judgment, though ("Try honesty.") I tried the noble option ("We'll learn") on my recent replay of Revelations, and it just felt too smooth. Saying "Start with honesty" makes more sense to me; it's not nasty, but I think it acknowledges that there is some hurt in their relationship after these events, and they'll have to do some work to find a new normal, so to speak. 

 

I've heard of the dog story, but I haven't heard it in person. My Cadash will get to it eventually (currently level 9 and still in Haven). 

 

@ Bugsie

 

I love Sera's comment about his hugging, but I was thinking more specifically of this:

 

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@ Gilsa

 

Thanks for posting all that gossip! I think I'd only caught a couple of those. And good for you and your No-Refund policy! I get what you mean about those romances. I started a second playthrough of DAO in which I had a dwarf commoner romancing Alistair, but I stalled about halfway through (I have yet to finish a second playthrough of a game, ever, but I'm trying again with Inquisition). Since I had read up on different outcomes by then, I had the whole thing planned out and was planning for her to encourage him to marry Anora and then spare Loghain and let him kill the Archdemon. But I never actually got to the Landsmeet, so I haven't actually seen just how Alistair would've gone off on her for sparing him. I thought I'd heard somewhere that he'd break up with a Warden who spared Loghain, but the Keep let me set her as his mistress when I went to put that worldstate together for my dwarf Inquisitor. As for Kaidan, I was surprised by the amount of venom directed at him and Ashley in the forums after ME2. His anger made me sad, but I understood where he was coming from. I never romanced him, but my femShep basically considered him a surrogate brother and cared about how he felt and what he was going through. I started out romancing Isabela in DA2, but when she said, "Don't bring feelings into this," it dawned on my Hawke (belatedly) that they didn't want the same thing from a relationship, and she ended it, and subsequently found happiness with Merrill. Come to think of it, all the romances in DA2 are kind of high-drama in one way or another.

[Bugsie]

@SilentX yes the mention of our inquisitors name in her book! I've yet to run Varriel (my male Lavellan) through, because I discovered I deleted his after end game save. So I have to run the final battle again, which isn't too much effort but a pain.

I think Tresspasser was a great way to wrap things up, giving us a hint of what's to come yet tying our personal stories up too.

I love the banter and friendship the two of them have, something that I think plays into class. Gah, I could write a whole essay on the nature of class and classism in DA (ugh and within fandom and fandom attitudes).

[Silent X]

Good luck with your Lavellan! I understand being a bit annoyed at having to re-do the end. My motivation to re-do the last third or so of the game is waxing and waning. I may just alternate between my Lavellan's replay and my Cadash to keep things from getting too samey. (And I want to start up a dude qunari mage, but I can't figure out what worldstate to make for him.)

 

Trespasser is fantastic, but it left me feeling less like my Inquisitor's personal story was tied up than I had at the end of the main game. That talk with Solas at the end made his machinations feel a lot more personal, and the game specifically has the Inquisitor her/himself take a stance on what s/he is going to do about Solas's plans, which makes me feel like they need to be involved in the next game. I think we definitely need a new PC, but I'm curious as to how the Inquisitor will be referred to or presented. My Lavellan had considered Solas her mentor and I feel like she would need to be personally involved in stopping him, in one fashion or another. I guess we'll see how things develop.

 

And yes, I totally agree about class being a major element of the rapport between Thom and Sera. It also made them both more relatable to my Inquisitor, as I reckon a Dalish elf would have a lot more in common with human commoners than with human nobles. The Dalish have to work hard for a living, same as human commoners do. Did you get the banter in which Sera tries to recruit Thom for the Friends of Red Jenny? Fun stuff. I'm actually wondering if, when I get back to Trespasser with my Lavellan, I should have her take Sera's offer and become a Jenny, but I wonder how that would work relative to her relationship with Thom? Has anyone tried it?

 

I initially wondered why Thom and Dorian were constantly at each other's throats, until it dawned on me that it was basically class warfare. You could totally write an essay on class and classism in DA!

[Gvalchca]

I'm actually wondering if, when I get back to Trespasser with my Lavellan, I should have her take Sera's offer and become a Jenny, but I wonder how that would work relative to her relationship with Thom? Has anyone tried it?

I did. It doesn't affect any other slides except Sera's. It's actually interesting, considering I chose not to disband Inquisition then according to epilogue my Trevelyan is managing to help with research for Solas issue, doing all sorts of Red Jenny stuff with Sera, providing advice and moral support for Dorian(speaking of him this magical crystal-phone thing is kind of a big deal lore wise, I wonder how they will explain it in future) and traveling with Thom while he helps convicted. All at the same time. Apparently she's awesome like that 

Can't help but think that half of them will be disregarded for DA4 as it was for DAO epilogue.

[Silent X]

Thanks! That's good to know. When I went through Trespasser before, I didn't take the option, largely because I was afraid it might close off something else that would be more fitting, or would force my Inquisitor and Blackwall apart. I'll be disbanding, but even then the Inquisition doesn't go away entirely, it converts to a tiny underground cell by the sound of it (I chose "We'll solve this ourselves" on the dialogue wheel at the end). I also got the communication crystal from Dorian. People are speculating that he'll be back in some kind of important role in the next game, and the Inquisitor seems to be organizing efforts against Solas (but needs to find people he doesn't know). I wonder. . . Will our PC in the next game perhaps be working with Dorian, whose crystal will serve as a means for him to relay instructions from the Inquisitor to the new PC without the Inquisitor needing to appear? That could be logical and cost-effective.

 

But you're right, epilogues have proven subject to change. My Awakening epilogue gave me the impression that Anders found his true home among the Grey Wardens and was happy there. So much for that. On the other hand, my DAO epilogue kind of implied that Leliana committed suicide.  I'm glad they changed their minds on that one.

 

So anyway, it's good to know that once my Lavellan gets around to Trespasser with a Blackwall whom she did not stupidly send to the Wardens, she can help out both him and Sera, as well as Dorian. Our Inquisitors are very busy people! 

[Gilsa]

Personally I think we're heading to Tevinter and that whole memory crystal with Dorian thing pretty much confirmed my suspicions that he's meant to be available for the next game (much like Leliana in her capacity as a spymaster). Dwarf fans are excited about this because like Dorian says to Cadash, dwarves are viewed differently in Tevinter. Tevinter is completely dependent on lyrium, which is why they have such a close relationship with Orzammar. Even though they have slaves, none of them are dwarves (they're more likely to be hired to oversee the actual slaves). Since dwarves are considered foreign dignitaries, there are multiple embassies and they have their own branch of government and are still considered to be within the Stone. I really hope dwarves are playable again so we can play a high ranking (or noble) dwarf instead of a thug for a change. Wouldn't that be great if they brought back the chance to play a city elf in Tevinter, too?

 

I have no expectations of seeing Blackwall in the next game. There are just too many ways for him to die or be unavailable in the main game alone, never mind Trespasser. I don't really want to play my Inquisitor again unless it's a brief cameo like Hawke was for DAI, that's fine. I feel like her story is done and I want to play a brand-new dwarf with a brand new romance.

[Bugsie]

I just get this feeling the narrative will be tighter in the next game, much in the way DA2 was. And we'll be lucky for our protagonist be any race other than human. 

[Silent X]

I fully support the idea of Dorian as an advisor.  I didn't know all that about dwarves in Tevinter, that's fascinating! My Cadash has barely met Dorian, so I guess I have a lot to look forward to.

 

I don't expect to see Blackwall again, either. It just doesn't seem likely, for the reasons you mentioned. But I'd still rather import an outcome that lets me think of him as still alive and happy with my Inquisitor. I don't dispute that the next game will and should have a new PC, Trespasser just left me with a feeling that the Inquisitor must somehow be involved. NPC Hawke felt a bit off to me, so I'm not 100% keen on that approach being taken with the Inquisitor in the next installment, but if there's a final, direct confrontation with Solas, I feel like I would want her to be there and I'd prefer to be able to control the character. If that were the only time she showed up in the game in person, I think I'd be alright with that. Maybe I'm just too attached. I know bringing back a former PC in any capacity must engender a lot of headaches for the Devs, so I shouldn't get my hopes up. It may simply not be worth the trouble.

 

@ Bugsie

 

I wonder about that, too, but I hope we'll get multiple races again. I think fandom in general has expressed appreciation for getting to choose what race to play? I suppose my own biases play a part in this, but Hawke being a set character pretty much removed all replayability from DA2 for me. I'm a total mage sympathizer, but especially given Hawke's status, belonging to a family of apostates, I could never wrap my head around the idea of Hawke siding with the Templars (especially given how harsh Meredith is even before she completely flips). In DAI, my Lavellan sided with the mages and my Cadash has recruited the Templars. I can justify different story paths based on the different backgrounds available. (And I love that Blackwall approves of you taking either group as allies.)

 

Maybe Blackwall will get a passing mention in the next game? I don't think there's any chance of anything more than that, but his name could come up. The Inquisitor can ask Varric about what all of Hawke's friends are doing. I'd take a minor acknowledgment.

[CredulousAlloy]

Yeah, I'm not expecting to see Blackwall again either. As has been pointed out, there are just too many variables to account for him either not being recruited at all, exiled with the Wardens, left to die, etc. I think the very most we can hope for is a passing mention from someone (Dorian?) if an appropriate world state is imported to DA4. To be honest, as much as I love him, I'm fine with him not appearing again in the future, as I think his story's been wrapped up nicely.

 

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The road to Trespasser continues, with Thom and Alys taking some time out to admire the gorgeous lighting in the Frostback Basin:

 

 

I tried to get a romantic shot of the two of them here, but I'm headcanoning that they had a lovers' quarrel just before the picture was taken as I could NOT get Alys to stay in the shot with him, lol:

(spoilered for size)

 

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[Bugsie]

Oh that last shot is gorgeous!!!!

 

Love it!

 

And me, being ridiculous, people were talking about Blackwall being an old-fashioned strongman. So of course I had to use my suspect photoshop skills and oblige!

 

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