Blackwall Discussion Thread -- The Resolve! [Voiced by Alastair Parker]
#2076
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 01:31
#2077
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 01:50
I don't think Blackwall's a LI. He reminds me of Wynne kinda. He also looks faintly ghoulish, as if he's close to his Calling. You can't fix that without lore alterations. And Thane's tragic romance wasn't well received, so I don't think they'll do it again.
Altho, with what happened to Fiona in "The Calling" and if you let Avernus from "Soldier's keep" live, callings might not be a thing to worry for long. At least i hope so.
#2078
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:22
I think a romance possibly being too "tragic" is definitely NOT something Bioware considers, TBH.
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#2079
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:24
Altho, with what happened to Fiona in "The Calling" and if you let Avernus from "Soldier's keep" live, callings might not be a thing to worry for long. At least i hope so.
No! No nonononononoononononononononononononono
#2080
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:25
I think a romance possibly being too "tragic" is definitely NOT something Bioware considers, TBH.
I think it's a personal mission in BW to always ensure they have one. Otherwise, they'd starve without the fan tears they love to devour so much.
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#2081
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:27
No! No nonononononoononononononononononononono
But why not! It is such great area for exploration and myth-debunking! And Deus Ex Machina solutions for horrible problems! ![]()
#2082
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:30
But why not! It is such great area for exploration and myth-debunking! And Deus Ex Machina solutions for horrible problems!
Boo hiss!
#2083
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:31
#2084
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:34
so... this is duncan's ex?
#2085
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:35
I have some ideas....
I know you do Mr. Know-it-All.
I don't think Blackwall's a LI. He reminds me of Wynne kinda. He also looks faintly ghoulish, as if he's close to his Calling. You can't fix that without lore alterations. And Thane's tragic romance wasn't well received, so I don't think they'll do it again.
Yeah um... DA writers sustain themselves on tears. Blackwall has the potential to be quite the fount of wangst from which they might feed upon. I know I would happily do my part to keep those waters o' woe running for them.
I think a romance possibly being too "tragic" is definitely NOT something Bioware considers, TBH.
TRUTH
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#2086
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:37
Okay, but if Blackwall is a LI and it ends tragically, do you promise I won't be run out of the thread when I treat the inevitable conclusion like catnip? Because I really go for this stuff and his age isn't an issue.
I'd have to run myself out of the thread so, no? ![]()
#2087
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:43
There is at least one tragic romance in every DA game. Morrigan leaves the Warden (unless he follows her through eluvian), Alistair makes the ultimate sacrifice if f!Warden refuses to do the dark ritual. Fenris leaves you for three years, and Anders turns out to be a terrorist who - he says it at the end - prefers his cause to your love.
If we have 4 LI as before, I doubt about his chances being the male LI besides Cullen. I agree with you that the only male companion LI is not very likely to be a tragic romance. But if there are 3 male LI, I could imagine him being one.
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#2088
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 03:54
Bara manga is a genre of Japanese comic books which focus on two large, muscular, hairy, often bearded, gay men who fall in love with each other and/or have lots of sex. Unlike yaoi, which conforms to traditional gender roles by having a dominant and submissive partner, the bara genre is openly and happily masculine and marketed towards gay men, with both partners often being equals. We don't know if he's gay, but he fits all the physical descriptions, so the nickname stuck.
I think the keywords are "muscular" and "masculine". A lot of Bara characters aren't hairy or bearded at all. It all depends on the artists' / readers' preferences. Therefore, the term "bear" doesn't necessarily apply.
#2089
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 06:10
And sinc3 Varric has Bianca...
#2090
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 06:23
I don't think Blackwall's a LI. He reminds me of Wynne kinda. He also looks faintly ghoulish, as if he's close to his Calling. You can't fix that without lore alterations. And Thane's tragic romance wasn't well received, so I don't think they'll do it again.
Fiona has avoided her calling- who's to say a companion quest won't ensure the same for Beardy McFullplate?
#2091
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:06
Fiona has avoided her calling- who's to say a companion quest won't ensure the same for Beardy McFullplate?
I would hate for them to go that route, particularly if Blackwall ends up one of the LIs.
Part of the price and duty of being a Warden is the Calling, and I wouldn't want the writers to provide Blackwall with an out just because some players have him as their favorite character and/or husbando. (I was against Thane being cured for similar reasons)
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#2092
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:07
Fiona has avoided her calling- who's to say a companion quest won't ensure the same for Beardy McFullplate?
NO! Just no..... Ugh!
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#2093
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:13
Blackwall's might just end up being that in reverse, if he ends up being a love interest.
#2094
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:23
...just food for thought, every single romance in DA:O was, at the end of the day, the exact same situation it'd be with Blackwall. Little less prevalent maybe because the Warden was younger, but still tragedy on the horizon.
That was part of what I liked about the Warden's romance arc, even if someone does the Dark Ritual and they survive the battle of Denerim. While that Warden's death might be years away, they are still going to die an early death and potentially leave behind a grieving lover. It might be a bit tragic but not all romance arcs need a happy ending.
It might be outside the scope of the games, but I imagine my Warden, Alistair, Ohgren, Nathaniel, and Sigrun all going eventually off to their Calling together and dying side-by-side in the Deep Roads amidst a mountain of slaughtered darkspawn.
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#2095
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:28
It might be outside the scope of the games, but I imagine my Warden, Alistair, Ohgren, Nathaniel, and Sigrun all going eventually off to their Calling together and dying side-by-side in the Deep Roads amidst a mountain of slaughtered darkspawn.
That ought to be a mini-DLC side story thing right there. Take control of the Warden one last time, to die. :S
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#2096
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 08:29
That ought to be a mini-DLC side story thing right there. Take control of the Warden one last time, to die. :S
Oh man..the tears.
It would be kind of awesome though.
#2097
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 09:33
Oh man..the tears.
It would be kind of awesome though.
Isn't Dog technically a Grey Warden, too?
#2098
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 09:49
No. He never went through the Joining.
#2099
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 09:59
No. He never went through the Joining.
Sadly he might be dead by the events of DA:I as well. How long do Mabari live?
Assuming Mabari have lifespans near that of other dogs, he'd be elderly by the events of DA:I (if still alive) and would probably be long dead by the time the Warden goes on his or her Calling.
#2100
Posté 10 juin 2014 - 10:42
You don't seem to grasp the pointlessness of a group of largely infertile people being the only group to survive a blight- they PROTECT the surface- they may do so by not trying to save everyone but they do try to save as many as they can without losing- becoming a Grey Warden is ensuring one more person exists to perhaps end the blight if they're nearby when the archdemon appears.
Unsurprisingly, that's nowhere in the Grey Warden motto or even their lore history. The Grey Wardens are a 'victory at any cost' mentality faction, not 'victory at minimal cost.' By all accounts, their culture is utilitarian, not sentimental: the 'typical' Grey Warden won't risk victory in the name of saving more people. There are more reasons than Loghain's border guards as to why the Wardens were prepared to watch Ferelden succumb to the Blight rather than risk more than Riordan, even though doing so might have increased their chances of saving Ferelden.
I'm inclined to recall a Dev (Gaider?) once mentioning that the 'Duncan Route' of DAO would have shocked many of the people who thought of Duncan as an ideal moral figure. I'm not sure he ever shared exactly what those were, mind you- but we can take a few gueses.
Keep in mind, Duncan met the Darkspawn in the field before the Arch Demon broke the surface- this is the act of a protector, not a blind sword.
Er, not really. On both the parts.





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