I would enjoy checking out Starkhaven. I was hoping to get the chance in the DA2's expansion, but we all know what happened to those plans. I liked Sebastian, he was a good guy.
Not... really. He was far too complacent about his privileged status and too willing to inflict collateral damage in pursuit of his personal feuds.
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True, but minus the privileged part, so was practically every other party member, with the exception of Aveline and Varric. Okay, I take back the good guy part. But I still liked the character and would like to know what happened to him.Not... really. He was far too complacent about his privileged status and too willing to inflict collateral damage in pursuit of his personal feuds.
As we all know for those who got the DLC of Sebastian Vael, at the end of DA2 you are faced with the option of either killing Anders or sparing him which results in a an angry disapproval and leave from Sebastian who declares he will avenge the destruction of the Chantry. So I'm wondering if that option was chosen, will Bioware have Sebastian return in Inquisition to claim his vengeance?
The Free Marches are supposed to be a region the Inquisitor visits in Inquisition. I could imagine that the player might visit the city-state and be faced with choices in helping Sebastian take the throne as Prince, or aiding one of his adversaries.
Hmm Rainbow Kitty you do have a point about the story not being in Kirkwall anymore but I mean the DA2 ending with Sebastian left such a cliff hanger that I would love for it to be seen in action or maybe I should just read or write a fanfic about it
XD but along with what Hanako said what if Starkhaven is a city you are able to travel to and interract in Inquisition ? I think they would need to explain what happened then!
As for Sebastian's proclamation (if Anders is spared), I think he would focus his revenge on Anders, rather than Kirkwall. He was understandably upset about the loss of a person who practically raised him (and was pretty much a mother to him), so I could see him wanting Anders dead if he was spared (which was the case with my apostate Champion, in all honesty). That act may also color how he views a mage protagonist (which is something I've wondered about since I'm mulling a Dalish elf as my first run Inquisitor).
I can usually find something about companions to relate to, but I had a difficult time with Sebastian. I don't mind seeing him though. Especially if there is a joke about you know what.
Vivienne: What is that?
Sebastian: Pardon me?
Cassandra: Maker. It's Andraste.
Varric: Leader of armies. Liberator of slaves. Blocker of *ahem* crotches.
Sebastian: My father had this armor commissioned when..
Vivienne: He went blind?
Sebastian: No.
LOL!
Oh Vivienne, i can totally see her saying this.
Not... really. He was far too complacent about his privileged status and too willing to inflict collateral damage in pursuit of his personal feuds.
No he wasn't. His entire character arc was spent contemplating whether or not to act on his status.
Ugh. I hope we don't see him again. He was way too judgmental, preachy, and pompous for my liking. I don't do well with types who feel the need to provide unsolicited preaching to those around them. Of course, I'll admit that my severe dislike of his personality is influencing my view point.
I do recognize that there is certainly room (regardless of friend or rival path) for a lot more character and lore development with Sebastian.....I grudgingly recognize this.
Sure, I'd love to see him. I've got a murder knife with his name on it. 
As much as I contentiously disagreed with his Chantry beliefs and his inhibition to taking what's his, he was a good dude. Wouldn't mind seeing him again if I can continue to chip away at his psyche and restore him to his former state.
Burning hatred? lmao. I hear it has nice scenery so I have no reason to hate there but:
"Marchers were once known for raiding the northern seaboard of Ferelden. Nevarra started out as a member of the Free Marches, but has expanded in size and power far beyond its former peers.
The Marches were once part of the Tevinter Imperium, evidence of which is found in the architecture of cities - high buildings built almost all in white stone.
The region seems poorer and less organized than Ferelden: the interiors of buildings are very rustic and gangs of brigands abound (some taking over entire neighborhoods, at least by night)."
"The Free Marches have no central government, no king and no capital, making the whole region difficult to protect and its economy disparate. Each city is self-governing and wary of intrusions by its neighbours, frequently leading to tensions between them as they jocky and vie for power. The government of each state also varies, the sea-port of Kirkwall, for example, is officially governed by a singular ruler in the form of the Viscount, but real political authority rests in the heads of the local chapter of The Templar Order.
During times of crisis, the most powerful merchants, generals and rulers of the Free Marches can convene to deal with the issue, similar to the Landsmeet of Ferelden."
AKA weak and pathetic.
World of Thedas says "Marchers are descendants of barbarian tribes, their cities standing in a loose confederation of kingdoms that rarely unite unless one of it's larger neighbors becomes aggressive or a blight necessitates a temporary union. In this event the Marchers assemble a united military that even the greatest power cannot ignore."
It later goes on to describe Starkhaven itself as the most grand city in the Free Marches and the wealthiest. Brother Genetivi says "Starkhaven's wealth is truly a sight to behold."
World of Thedas says "Marchers are descendants of barbarian tribes, their cities standing in a loose confederation of kingdoms that rarely unite unless one of it's larger neighbors becomes aggressive or a blight necessitates a temporary union. In this event the Marchers assemble a united military that even the greatest power cannot ignore."
It later goes on to describe Starkhaven itself as the most grand city in the Free Marches and the wealthiest. Brother Genetivi says "Starkhaven's wealth is truly a sight to behold."
I always saw it akin to Ancient Greece in this manner, with Starkhaven serving as the DA version of Athens.
World of Thedas says "Marchers are descendants of barbarian tribes, their cities standing in a loose confederation of kingdoms that rarely unite unless one of it's larger neighbors becomes aggressive or a blight necessitates a temporary union. In this event the Marchers assemble a united military that even the greatest power cannot ignore."
It later goes on to describe Starkhaven itself as the most grand city in the Free Marches and the wealthiest. Brother Genetivi says "Starkhaven's wealth is truly a sight to behold."
The first part is from the time where Nevarra was part of Free marches. When Nevarra left it became a dump. Now if you just read new stuff from age of Dragon its full of misery.
Starkhaven was given to barbarians in a silver basket full with Tevinter riches. Even now the architecture of city is Tevinter. Marchers are descendants of barbarians but not a single city of free march is built by them. Particularly Starkhaven and Kirkwall belonged to Tevinter. They did not even bother to change the names.
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Only if he's not such a tease again.
The first part is from the time where Nevarra was part of Free marches. When Nevarra left it became a dump. Now if you just read new stuff from age of Dragon its full of misery.
Starkhaven was given to barbarians in a silver basket full with Tevinter riches. Even now the architecture of city is Tevinter. Marchers are descendants of barbarians but not a single city of free march is built by them. Particularly Starkhaven and Kirkwall belonged to Tevinter. They did not even bother to change the names.
What are you talking about? It says that on the first page of World of Thedas' section on the Free Marches. The Free Marches that currently exist without Nevarra (which has it's own page). Plus all the wording is in the present tense.
And secondly even if they were originally founded by Tevinter, so what? They're Marcher cities. That still means the Free Marches isn't a "dump".
What are you talking about? It says that on the first page of World of Thedas' section on the Free Marches. The Free Marches that currently exist without Nevarra (which has it's own page). Plus all the wording is in the present tense.
And secondly even if they were originally founded by Tevinter, so what? They're Marcher cities. That still means the Free Marches isn't a "dump".
The same page says what I posted previously. Constant chaos, no real alliance, worthless trade etc. The weakest nation of Thedas with bad living conditions hence "marches" is a dump in my eyes.
The same page says what I posted previously. Constant chaos, no real alliance, worthless trade etc. The weakest nation of Thedas with bad living conditions hence "marches" is a dump in my eyes.
Sounds like hey are taking after big brother Tevinter.
Starkhaven is the largest and and most prosperous of a group of city states that are collectively strong enough to challenge any other nation in Thedas. It's wealthy enough to stand out even to a guy that has traveled across all corners of the continent. That makes it an "important city".
The page in question actually does not say there is "constant chaos" or "worthless trade" or that they have bad living conditions, however it does say that the Free Marches are wealthy cities, who's farmlands provide much of Thedas' food.
Starkhaven is the largest and and most prosperous of a group of city states that are collectively strong enough to challenge any other nation in Thedas. It's wealthy enough to stand out even to a guy that has traveled across all corners of the continent. That makes it an "important city".
The page in question actually does not say there is "constant chaos" or "worthless trade," however it does say that the Free Marches provides much of Thedas' food.
"The Free Marches have no central government, no king and no capital, making the whole region difficult to protect and its economy disparate. Each city is self-governing and wary of intrusions by its neighbours, frequently leading to tensions between them as they jocky and vie for power. The government of each state also varies, the sea-port of Kirkwall, for example, is officially governed by a singular ruler in the form of the Viscount, but real political authority rests in the heads of the local chapter of The Templar Order.
During times of crisis, the most powerful merchants, generals and rulers of the Free Marches can convene to deal with the issue, similar to the Landsmeet of Ferelden."
"The region seems poorer and less organized than Ferelden: the interiors of buildings are very rustic and gangs of brigands abound (some taking over entire neighborhoods, at least by night)."
http://dragonage.wik...ki/Free_Marches
None of that supports what you said or contradicts what I said. Unless you think "frequent tensions" translates to "constant chaos" or that baseless wiki speculation counts as lore.
It "seems poorer?" Did they forget about all the rundown seedy parts of Denerim filled with bandits?
None of that supports what you said or contradicts what I said.
Lol, feel free to think however you want it doesn't change the fact in front of my eyes. Starkhaven has rich nobles but the city is not a rich city, there are many poors. In fact Free marches is home to many poor people as we hear in game and read in codex.
Less organized and poorer than Ferelden? Lel
Constant chaos? check
Bad Trade? check
No real alliance? check
You denied these three which are clearly true.
First he'd have to take back Starkhaven which....honestly? I can't see him accomplishing on his own. I imagine he'd show up there all full of fury only to learn that to raise an army first he has to get an actual army, take the city, then get the city to actually agree to march on another city to satisfy the newly apointed leaders grudge.
Lol, feel free to think however you want it doesn't change the fact in front of my eyes. Starkhaven has rich nobles but the city is not a rich city, there are many poors. In fact Free marches is home to many poor people as we hear in game and read in codex.
Less organized and poorer than Ferelden? Lel
Constant chaos? check
Bad Trade? check
No real alliance? check
You denied these three which are clearly true.
They aren't clearly true. WoT even uses the words "wealthy city-states" in the opening paragraph about the Free Marches.
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