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[Steelcan]

Addendum, three fools.

. Silence Aussie, don't you have wildlife to be succumbing to?

[Nefla]

Anyways, it should be said that they're written by the same writer. I find it hard to hate one over the other, when it's all part of one person's mind and agenda.

I think the writers are good enough to write two separate characters. Haven't you ever read a book and loved one character but hated another?

[Grieving Natashina]

Damn, good point. Both Hepler characters.

Are you referring to Anders as the other character?  David gave her notes on what direction to go with as well as approved of the final concept.  

[Hellion Rex]

Opinions. Anyone who suggests turning my friend anywhere dies, if I have such the means. 

Definitely agreed. Threaten my friends, OFF WITH YOUR HEAD.

[Hellion Rex]

I think the writers are good enough to write two separate characters. Haven't you ever read a book and loved one character but hated another?

Rhys.

 

Adrian.

[Zazzerka]

. Silence Aussie, don't you have wildlife to be succumbing to?

 

Not while the Mortein supplies hold out.

[Nefla]

Opinions. Anyone who suggests turning my friend anywhere dies, if I have such the means. 

The moment my friend suggested giving over a young boy's soul to a demon or killing a good man who was trying to help mages, they wouldn't be my friend anymore.

[KainD]

The moment my friend suggested giving over a young boy's soul to a demon or killing a good man who was trying to help mages, they wouldn't be my friend anymore.

 

1) Well I was talking about friends wasn't I? If they are not your friends, it's only natural that you don't have a problem with them being turned in.

2) I hold friendship above such things. 

[Zazzerka]

Oh dear.

[KainD]

If my best friend who is like a sister to me and who I've been friends with since we were 11 raped a child and then shot them in the face, it would tear me apart and I would never be the same, but I would turn her in right away.

 

Well that's you. But we digress again. The point was that it IS your friend, and someone threatens them. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Oh dear.

I hear you.  My first thought was:

 

[renfrees]

Somewhat related to Sebastian, i think. And to turn the topic back on the straight and narrow - http://dgaider.tumbl...ter-popularity 

[MWImexico]

Somewhat related to Sebastian, i think. And to turn the topic back on the straight and narrow - http://dgaider.tumbl...ter-popularity 

 

^ Are you referring to this line : "...but personally I’d be just as happy if the character had no fans, or was even considered unpopular. It’s a chance to develop the character further."

Is Sebastian an unpopular character? Because I liked him in DA2 (well I mean, in comparaison, he seemed to be less crazy than most of the people Hawke had to deal with in Kirkwall). And if he comes back in DAI, I hope DG will stick to his word and will not make him act foolishly only to please his detractors.

[renfrees]

I'm referring that character has to have justification plot-wise to reappear, and his/her fanbase has little influence on dev's decision.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Like with Morrigan, I'd like to see three different paths here.

 

The first would be the "default" one, the one we would have prior to the invention of the Keep if we never bought Exiled Prince, or if we never recruited Sebastion.  He was in the chantry when it blew up, and maybe he didn't survive, or he's injured in a hospital somewhere, possibly insisting he's prince of Starkhaven and nobody believes him (think Drunk Alistair), or he went and tracked down Flint Company on his own and it went badly.  Starkhaven is still run by an imbecile.

 

The second path is if you rival him.  He took Starkhaven back using Flora's army and is actively looking for a princess, probably Flora, although if romanced he still pines for Hawke.  Starkhaven has become highly militarized, and he's building up his forces by offering pay and benefits to people willing to enlist.

 

The third is if he was friended.  Maybe he's still a chantry brother, or maybe he took Starkhaven back peacefully, similarly to the way someone said his parents took over.  He's trying to maintain his vows and is setting Starkhaven up as a theocracy, but still misses Hawke, if romanced.  He's began several social programs that wouldn't be invented in our world for nearly a thousand years, like food stamps and welfare. 

 

Either way, how the business with Anders and the mages determines where Starkhaven sits on the mage/templar conflict.  For instance, if Hawke spared Anders and sided with the templars, let the mages beware, but if Hawke sided with the mages and let Anders go, mages are welcome but Anders has wanted posters everywhere.

[MWImexico]

I'm referring that character has to have justification plot-wise to reappear, and his/her fanbase has little influence on dev's decision.

 

That makes sense and I hope so.

[Mistic]

Somewhat related to Sebastian, i think. And to turn the topic back on the straight and narrow - http://dgaider.tumbl...ter-popularity 

 

I'm referring that character has to have justification plot-wise to reappear, and his/her fanbase has little influence on dev's decision.

 

Ok, I was going to ask that. It makes sense, including the part that they don't bring back popular characters to ruin them. They need a reason, and X character having these or those fans doesn't change it.

 

Although I'm sure some people in the forums will be surprised when Gaider says "Leliana is the most common romance in DAO —by a significant margin".

[renfrees]

Ok, I was going to ask that. It makes sense, including the part that they don't bring back popular characters to ruin them. They need a reason, and X character having these or those fans doesn't change it.

 

Although I'm sure some people in the forums will be surprised when Gaider says "Leliana is the most common romance in DAO —by a significant margin".

Why? She's basically your "girl next door" + "cheerleader", relatively easy to get along, so many prefer that to more ... unforgiving Morrigan. Plus male playerbase considerably larger than female, that also adds to her dominance against Alistair's romance.

[EmissaryofLies]

He was easily among the best written characters of DA II. 

 

He has a nice personality and a solid political view. 

 

I do not understand the distaste for him. 

[Mistic]

Why? She's basically your "girl next door" + "cheerleader", relatively easy to get along, so many prefer that to more ... unforgiving Morrigan. Plus male playerbase considerably larger than female, that also adds to her dominance against Alistair's romance.

 

I agree. But as Gaider points out, apart from the "Leliana is dead in my playthrough! How come she's alive in DA2?", she doesn't appear in many posts or discussions, so it may give the erroneous impression that she's less popular than other, more polarizing characters.

[renfrees]

I agree. But as Gaider points out, apart from the "Leliana is dead in my playthrough! How come she's alive in DA2?", she doesn't appear in many posts or discussions, so it may give the erroneous impression that she's less popular that other, more polarizing characters.

That is the reason she doesn't appear in many discussions, because she doesn't scrub anyone's itch with her persona or actions.

[Mistic]

That is the reason she doesn't appear in many discussions, because she doesn't scrub anyone's itch with her persona or actions.

 

Exactly. Imagine how boring the forum would be if every character in DA was so likeable

[Clockwork_Wings]

I found romancing both Leliana and Zevran to be...boring.  It doesn't have as much impact to me as, say, fathering the apocalypse or being the king's mistress.  You can't smooch them in public, so I felt as though the romance was not quite as fleshed out as Morrigan or Alistair. 

 

Although a lot of fun is to play Lady Cousland, romance Zevran, friendzone Alistair, and then make yourself queen.    Alistair is more distant in Awakening if you did this, good job Bioware.

[renfrees]

Exactly. Imagine how boring the forum would be if every character in DA was so likeable

Meh, not my type personally, but i understand the reasons behind her popularity as a romance option.