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#4301
Lebanese Dude

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(and honestly that whole Suicide Mission was handled so wonderfully and intelligently that I don't even care if it tricks me, the effect it creates is like magic)

 

You mispelled "the whole Mass Effect trilogy". 



#4302
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Dorian looks kind of ethnically Arab to me. But Danarius and Hadriana had no accent. I've given up expecting any kind of consistency within Thedosian ethnic groups.

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You mispelled "the whole Mass Effect trilogy". 

The entire trilogy was magic. The suicide mission was Merlin on steroids.



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Dorian looks kind of ethnically Arab to me. But Danarius and Hadriana had no accent. I've given up expecting any kind of consistency within Thedosian ethnic groups.

Hiring voice actors to specifically create accents is kinda too hard as far as I know

They'd like to do it, but, alas, resources



#4305
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Language-country-accent relationships are quite inconsistent in this setting. I am not sure as to why all Orlesians speak with an accent, while most Tevinter we've heard do not.

 

That's also true. Most of the Tevinter characters have English accents, which is why I was sort of wondering if there's a lore explanation for something that seems Indian-inspired. 

 

I'm not very familiar with the sort of areas under Tevinter control, but at a guess it's certainly possible that regions have developed their own distinct accents. It'd actually be kinda cool to present that accent as just one local variation of standard Tevinter "English-y", instead of introducing a new Thedas culture that's meant to be loosely Indian. 

 

After all, there's absolutely no reason why a city full of generally white (?) Tevinter citizens couldn't have Indian accents - this is a fantasy setting!



#4306
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The entire trilogy was magic. The suicide mission was Merlin on steroids.

 

Haha it was (and still is) quite the adrenaline rush.



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(To me a more interesting aspect of this lore-wise is what it says about the geographic spread of the Tevinter Imperium - does it include cultures and peoples who have natural Indian accents? Dorian seems culturally Tevinter with his surname, but perhaps the empire is multiracial.)

 

Countries in Thedas seem to adopt older ethno-nationalist prejudices framework the old Europe used to (and sort of still) have before colonialism, not the human racial ones that emerged after, so I would guess the question is pretty much meaningless.

 



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There does seem to be a tendency to try and make different parts of Thedas approximate to regions of the world.  Tevinter is a much hotter part of Thedas, so people would naturally tend to be darker skinned and thus hinting at an Indian background would suggest they are basing Tevinter ethnicity on the sub-continent.   However, Tevinter's population is likely pretty cosmopolitan in appearance since they originally ruled all of Thedas and so would have a pretty varied mix of ethnicity making up the whole.   Still, there are meant to be certain families that have ruled there virtually throughout.   So Dorian could be from a very ancient Tevinter line and this is reflected in his appearance.    Alternatively, he could be from a mixed background of more plebeian origins and this again would account for his appearance and voice.



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How would it be multiracial? We already know that Tevinter was formed from several "barbarian tribes" including the dominant Tevinter tribe. Perhaps Dorian is simply from a different ancestral tribe than the others?

 

That's kinda what I meant. A cosmopolitan society made up of mixed and intermarrying ethnic groups, rather than something homogeneous. But there's also the possibility that in the course of its expansion (maybe to the west?) Tevinter subjugated local human populations that were ethnically distinct from Tevinter proper - and if they became citizens, they'd share the culture of core Tevinter if not always the ethnicity. 

 

Again, I'm totally not sure about a lot of Tevinter history and it's possible they never absorbed other groups as they expanded - maybe those other groups don't exist, and never did. 

 

(But if they're taking Byzantium as any sort of inspiration, then that was full of people from all over the Mediterranean occupying positions of power, prestige and leadership.)



#4310
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-snip-

 

(But if they're taking Byzantium as any sort of inspiration, then that was full of people from all over the Mediterranean occupying positions of power, prestige and leadership.)

Makes sense.



#4311
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It's been too long without a picture  :wub:

 

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Edit: He looks a little Disney  :wizard:


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#4312
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It's been too long without a picture :wub:

*dat sexy fan art*

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Honestly this is the most accurate drawing of Dorian we have at the moment

#4313
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Is that the Banner Saga's style of animation?

 

It's lovely.



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Is that the Banner Saga's style of animation?

 

It's lovely.

Yeah, Ymirr has said before that the Banner Saga style was what he was trying to evoke with this art.



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(But if they're taking Byzantium as any sort of inspiration, then that was full of people from all over the Mediterranean occupying positions of power, prestige and leadership.)

This is kinda the impression I got from Tevinter. The Byzantine empire was kinda doing it's own thing for awhile after the fall of Rome, and that seems to be what Tevinter's been doing as well. It was also one of the more multicultural societies of its time which fits well with Dorian's appearance.



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Was it ever discussed what kind of LI he would be if he was romancible?

I'm thinking he might be the saucy one :3

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Why am I suddenly getting Oded Fehr vibes?  Must be the fanarts.



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The VA as I recall is Indian/British descent or Indian and living in UK. Most likely will sound English and RP. If we're lucky, might sound non-standard accent.

 

Roman/Tevinter spanned a long Empire at one time and assimilated multiple cultures. I'd imagine the original Tevinter state made up of this core group stayed 'Tevinter' years later, washing away their identities (like Etruscans, Sabines). I don't doubt this for a second happening in DA-land and I doubt these Tevinter know if they were descended from one of the groups that wasn't originally Tevinter as it's been so long. Unless the Empire shifted like with Rome, then Dorian could as well be whatever a Greek or Ilyrian is in DA-verse, but he is still Tevinter because that is his culture. But yeah, Roman Empires tend to be melting pots more than some other systems.

 

Anyway, from the Tevinter I met in DA: O at the alienage, they all had the darker shades of olive or tanned skin. Not one of them had the pale northern european skin tones as I recall.

 

I agree with the Arabic influence, and again, Romans and Byzantines ruled over peoples of those regions for a time - the latter Empire was defeated by Ottomans - why I think there is Ottoman/Persian influence with the Tevinter by now as it has an eastern flavor of Rome. Romans aren't typically pale Northern Europeans in the first place, so I'd expect Tevinter to be likewise. In Etruscan art there's plenty of guys with Dorian's skin tone. You see a few paler ones but the tan outnumbers them.

 

I doubt it means anything, but I noticed most Tevinter in DAO also had facial hair, even mustaches. :lol:



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I really really hope it's an indication of him being bisexual instead of gay. Because I'm apparently the only straight woman on the planent who doesn't want Cullen. And Dorian is well, smart rebel magister and a snappy dresser.

 

You are not the only straight woman who doesn't want Cullen. I want no part of him either! We should form a club.



#4324
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Why are you still prodding on that point? I have already said that we can interpret the relationships in many ways. Your viewpoint is just as valid and could be just as correct. 

 

Also your second statement is unnecessary. We are specifically talking about Dorian here and there's a pretty good chance he's going to be a love interest, so we're just dissecting everything being said to form some foundations for our own personal theories regarding his unknown sexual orientation. Given that we do not know his sexual orientation, a relationship with the son of his former mentor could either be platonic, romantic, or even non-existent. That's a fact. Our opinions diverge on the nature of the relationship.

 

I'm not here to paint gay on every relationship between men. 

 

Err, but this was my first comment on Dorrian,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Well, if you want to wish really hard that Dorrian is a gay rommance, go ahead. But there was nothing in the demo to suggest he was gay.



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Weirdly, I see him being the friendly/sweet romance. Cullen seems a little broody and jaded at this point, so he'll have that. I'm still thinking Iron Bull for bi LI, so he's got boisterous and saucy.

 

There's also something about Dorian's face and voice now that I've seen and heard him in person that makes me think he might be a little more quiet and serious then I've been thinking. Still plenty sassy and fun, mind you, just not as much as I've (we've?) previously thought. I don't know, maybe its just because the demo took place during such a dramatic scene. I just think he might fit that one fanart strip of him and a dude!DwarfQuisitor that was posted earlier in the thread more than some of the saucier interpretations we've had of his character.


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