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[Chari]

To be honest even if Saemus and Ashaad were in love, it had to be asexual otherwise Ashaad would get reeducated and I doubt Arishok had no idea what was going on between these two. Sex is only for reproduction purposes

[Lucy Glitter]

To be honest even if Saemus and Ashaad were in love, it had to be asexual otherwise Ashaad would get reeducated and I doubt Arishok had no idea what was going on between these two. Sex is only for reproduction purposes

 

I cannot believe that they all think that.

[Chari]

I cannot believe that they all think that.

The Qun says so. Duty prevails over personal pleasure
Everyone who thinks and does otherwise is reeducated

[AkiKishi]

It's not uncommon in belief systems.

[Jessihatt]

The Qun says so. Duty prevails over personal pleasure
Everyone who thinks and does otherwise is reeducated

I thought they could still sleep with whoever they liked, but only reproduce with those picked out for them?

[Chari]

I thought they could still sleep with whoever they liked, but only reproduce with those picked out for them?

Sex outside of the breeding programme is big no-no

[Mukora]

Considering birth control probably isn't a thing, I doubt the Tamassran would be willing to risk people having sex unless they were trying to make a baby.

[Chari]

Considering birth control probably isn't a thing, I doubt the Tamassran would be willing to risk people having sex unless they were trying to make a baby.

It's not just about babies
It's about discipline and self control
Fun, sex and alcholol are like the opposite of that

[Arvaarad]

If it'd seem romantically suggestive between a man and a woman, then it's not unreasonable to apply that to a man and a man or a woman and a woman as well. It seems like a lot of people get upset when people interpret relationships between two characters of the same gender romantically, but don't have the same problem when others assume an opposite-gender relationship is romantic in nature.

I think Felix *could* be a friend, but I also consider opposite-sex relationships to be friends unless there's a clear reason to believe otherwise. My circle of friends is pretty evenly gender split, so I see more examples of opposite-sex relationships being friends than I see them being romantic relationships.

[Lucy Glitter]

It's not just about babies
It's about discipline and self control
Fun, sex and alcholol are like the opposite of that

 

Sure, but people indulge behind closed doors. It might be a minority thing, but there's a few reasons why Tal-Vashoth exist. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some Qunari leave because they want to indulge in their own wants and not everyone elses. 

Kossith/Qunari are a different species (from what I know) but I feel like essentially life is survival which equals selfishness to some degree which grows into vices. 

[Chari]

Sure, but people indulge behind closed doors. It might be a minority thing, but there's a few reasons why Tal-Vashoth exist. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some Qunari leave because they want to indulge in their own wants and not everyone elses.

Kossith/Qunari are a different species (from what I know) but I feel like essentially life is survival which equals selfishness to some degree which grows into vices.

Mary Kirby actually stated that lack of sex isn't likely a reason for qunari to leave. They've got sex sessions scheduled for years in advance while in other parts of Thedas finding a partner might be tricky
Believe or not but some people don't lose their minds just because they can't ****.They don't need sex to express love or friendship

[Hellion Rex]

Excuse me, y'all, but what in the hell does this have to do with Dorian? Take it to the Iron Bull thread or a Qunari thread.

[Tootles FTW]

The Qun says so. Duty prevails over personal pleasure
Everyone who thinks and does otherwise is reeducated

 

Yes, but we have Iron Bull's bio to disprove some of this.  Iron Bull is still a part of the Qun, he sends them spy missives regularly from what I gather, yet he indulges in sex, drink, and general revelry.  Yes, he's not under the watchful eye and thus can "get away with it", but if a trusted follower of the Qun does not follow the Qun when not being forced to do so...how well is your system working?  And is Iron Bull really the only one getting up to these shenanigans?  I doubt it.

 

Fanatical belief suppressing basic biological functions generally does not end well for most involved.  It leads to either despair or denial IMO.

 

EDIT - Dorian would probably get along with Iron Bull, I think.  They're both "rebels" or outcasts of their particular culture.

[Chari]

Yes, but we have Iron Bull's bio to disprove some of this. Iron Bull is still a part of the Qun, he sends them spy missives regularly from what I gather, yet he indulges in sex, drink, and general revelry. Yes, he's not under the watchful eye and thus can "get away with it", but if a trusted follower of the Qun does not follow the Qun when not being forced to do so...how well is your system working? And is Iron Bull really the only one getting up to these shenanigans? I doubt it.

Fanatical belief suppressing basic biological functions generally does not end well for most involved. It leads to either despair or denial IMO.

Iron Bull is doubting himself. Tallis used her femenine charms to get information.
They're spies, this is their job: to become invisible unnoticeable among the enemy. Iron Bull pretended to be talvashoth but eventually he started to wonder which part if him is real him.
Sten trolled a pretty and available Morrigan when she flirted with him. The man hadn't had sex in months or even years and likely wouldn't have in any possible future (it was a suicidal mission for him anyway). And he still didn't feel like ****** anyone
Majority of qunari do not need sex as a part of relationship, that's their own unique culture and lore. And that is normal

[fiveforchaos]

To be honest even if Saemus and Ashaad were in love, it had to be asexual otherwise Ashaad would get reeducated and I doubt Arishok had no idea what was going on between these two. Sex is only for reproduction purposes

Is there any evidence to support that reeducation would be used for such a relatively minor transgression? He won't be producing offspring with Saemus, and it doesn't particularly affect his ability to serve the Qun. Would the Qunari care all that much? Especially when Saemus seemed likely to convert, or at least ally himself with them. 

 

Sten also doesn't necessarily represent the "majority of Qunari" he represents a Qunari, and perhaps a certain class of Qunari, but Qunari might have varying levels of libido compared to him.

 

EDIT: Oh wow... I was almost certain I was posting to the Iron Bull thread. How'd the subject get this far? Were we discussing Dorian's relationship with the Qunari given his Tevinter background? 

[Hellion Rex]

Iron Bull is doubting himself. Tallis used her femenine charms to get information.
They're spies, this is their job: to become invisible unnoticeable among the enemy. Iron Bull pretended to be talvashoth but eventually he started to wonder which part if him is real him.
Sten trolled a pretty and available Morrigan when she flirted with him. The man hadn't had sex in months or even years and likely wouldn't have in any possible future (it was a suicidal mission for him anyway). And he still didn't feel like ****** anyone
Majority of qunari do not need sex as a part of relationship, that's their own unique culture and lore. And that is normal

 

 

Is there any evidence to support that reeducation would be used for such a relatively minor transgression? He won't be producing offspring with Saemus, and it doesn't particularly affect his ability to serve the Qun. Would the Qunari care all that much? Especially when Saemus seemed likely to convert, or at least ally himself with them. 

 

Sten also doesn't necessarily represent the "majority of Qunari" he represents a Qunari, and perhaps a certain class of Qunari, but Qunari might have varying levels of libido compared to him.

 

 

Take. It. Elsewhere.

[Chari]

Is there any evidence to support that reeducation would be used for such a relatively minor transgression? He won't be producing offspring with Saemus, and it doesn't particularly affect his ability to serve the Qun. Would the Qunari care all that much? Especially when Saemus seemed likely to convert, or at least ally himself with them.

Sten also doesn't necessarily represent the "majority of Qunari" he represents a Qunari, and perhaps a certain class of Qunari, but Qunari might have varying levels of libido compared to him.

It was stated by devs themselves that sex outside of breeding system is punishable
By devs themselves
Who you think knows better - you or them?
Is asexual love is too much for some people to understand?

[Tootles FTW]

Iron Bull is doubting himself. Tallis used her femenine charms to get information.
They're spies, this is their job: to become invisible unnoticeable among the enemy. Iron Bull pretended to be talvashoth but eventually he started to wonder which part if him is real him.
Sten trolled a pretty and available Morrigan when she flirted with him. The man hadn't had sex in months or even years and likely wouldn't have in any possible future (it was a suicidal mission for him anyway). And he still didn't feel like ****** anyone
Majority of qunari do not need sex as a part of relationship, that's their own unique culture and lore. And that is normal

 

I think what you're claiming is a Qunari ideal, but what someone aspires to isn't necessarily what happens.  But I shall move this to the Iron Bull thread - sorry everyone!

 

What are everyone's general plans for a Dorian romance?  IF he ends up being bi, will you go at him with a female or male first, and what race?  Thanks to fanart I'm pretty much set on a male elf, but someone suggested the QunarixTevinter dynamic might be interesting.  I really hope we get some race/class specific dialogue in the romances, anyways.

[Hellion Rex]

I think what you're claiming is a Qunari ideal, but what someone aspires to isn't necessarily what happens.  But I shall move this to the Iron Bull thread - sorry everyone!

 

What are everyone's general plans for a Dorian romance?  IF he ends up being bi, will you go at him with a female or male first, and what race?  Thanks to fanart I'm pretty much set on a male elf, but someone suggested the QunarixTevinter dynamic might be interesting.  I really hope we get some race/class specific dialogue in the romances, anyways.

Male Human probably. I'm kinda scared that he'd be race locked against Qunari, so I'm hesitant to role a male Qunmage first.

[Char]

I think what you're claiming is a Qunari ideal, but what someone aspires to isn't necessarily what happens.  But I shall move this to the Iron Bull thread - sorry everyone!

 

What are everyone's general plans for a Dorian romance?  IF he ends up being bi, will you go at him with a female or male first, and what race?  Thanks to fanart I'm pretty much set on a male elf, but someone suggested the QunarixTevinter dynamic might be interesting.  I really hope we get some race/class specific dialogue in the romances, anyways.

 

If he ends up being bi, I'll romance him with a female Inquisitor, not too fussed about the race. Simply because I prefer to play as a female when possible. I still haven't grown out of the little internal "Yay!" I get when I get to play a game that gives me that option

If it turns out he's the m/m option, it's an impetus for me to run a playthrough as a male. Horizon-broadening is always a good exercise

[Tootles FTW]

If he ends up being bi, I'll romance him with a female Inquisitor, not too fussed about the race. Simply because I prefer to play as a female when possible. I still haven't grown out of the little internal "Yay!" I get when I get to play a game that gives me that option

If it turns out he's the m/m option, it's an impetus for me to run a playthrough as a male. Horizon-broadening is always a good exercise

 

Yea, I usually don't play a male, either, unless I have a romance option available that interests me (an m/m option, I don't generally romance females).  I created my first ever DudeShep for Steve Cortez.  

I think Dorian will get my first male Quizzie, my femQuizzie is still up for grabs pending further info.

[Lucy Glitter]

Yea, I usually don't play a male, either, unless I have a romance option available that interests me (an m/m option, I don't generally romance females).  I created my first ever DudeShep for Steve Cortez.  

I think Dorian will get my first male Quizzie, my femQuizzie is still up for grabs pending further info.

 

Ooh! I only romanced Thane in ME games. Is Steve a cute one? I liked his character! So calm and kind

I agree, I don't do male playthroughs much at all but I will be adding to the beautiful elves of BioWare list with my PC ;-D 

[Phate Phoenix]

What are everyone's general plans for a Dorian romance?  IF he ends up being bi, will you go at him with a female or male first, and what race?  Thanks to fanart I'm pretty much set on a male elf, but someone suggested the QunarixTevinter dynamic might be interesting.  I really hope we get some race/class specific dialogue in the romances, anyways.

 

I really want to make a male dwarf character for Dorian. I'm very intrigued by dwarves in Tevinter culture. I'm not sure if want to make him a rogue or a warrior, though. (I prefer rogues, but I like the narrative of the tiny Warrior trying to protect his mage boyfriend. Who probably would be more amused than thankful. I'll have to see how they play in DAI.) A qunari might be interesting, but I could see Dorian being race-gated against them. Elves could also make for an interesting discussion.

 

I feel bad, but I find playing humans to be so boring!  Perhaps the background of Trevelyan will make playing one more interesting. (My dream background is that the human mage was actually Tranquil, and the Veil shattering fixed them. Alas, super unlikely, but, still, my hope lives on.)

[fiveforchaos]

Take. It. Elsewhere.

My apologies, the thread had gotten so off topic I hadn't realized that I wasn't posting in the Iron Bull thread (it'd be relevant there), otherwise I would have made a better effort to curb the discussion back to Dorian.

 

 

Yea, I usually don't play a male, either, unless I have a romance option available that interests me (an m/m option, I don't generally romance females).  I created my first ever DudeShep for Steve Cortez.  

I think Dorian will get my first male Quizzie, my femQuizzie is still up for grabs pending further info.

Any race-gates on Dorian (assuming he's m/m only) will pretty much determine which race my first male Quizzie will be, seeing as how I also don't tend to play a guy unless I want to access a romance, or play a character with a cool beard (which pretty much leaves male elves out). 

 

 

By devs themselves
Who you think knows better - you or them?
 

The devs of course, but I didn't know if they had said anything on the subject, hence my request for evidence.  I admit I'm at times shamefully behind on my DA lore and developer announcements. 

 

 

 

 

EDIT - Dorian would probably get along with Iron Bull, I think.  They're both "rebels" or outcasts of their particular culture.

 

I dunno, depends on how much exposure Dorian had to the Qunari prior to meeting IB. It's already been revealed that Varric, the guy who tends to get along with everyone, isn't going to get along with IB too well because of his prior experiences with the religion. If Dorian's from a part of Tevinter that's had trouble with the Qunari in the past, then his view could be just as colored as Varric's. 

 

 

I really want to make a male dwarf character for Dorian. I'm very intrigued by dwarves in Tevinter culture. I'm not sure if want to make him a rogue or a warrior, though. (I prefer rogues, but I like the narrative of the tiny Warrior trying to protect his mage boyfriend. Who probably would be more amused than thankful. I'll have to see how they play in DAI.) A qunari might be interesting, but I could see Dorian being race-gated against them. Elves could also make for an interesting discussion.

 

I feel bad, but I find playing humans to be so boring!    Perhaps the background of Trevelyan will make playing one more interesting. (My dream background is that the human mage was actually Tranquil, and the Veil shattering fixed them. Alas, super unlikely, but, still, my hope lives on.)

 

I understand your feelings when it comes to unlikely dreams. My dream is that Irikah Krios will be a companion in the next Mass Effect, but that also seems highly unlikely.

 

I too want to know how Dwarves function in Tevinter society, I'm certain that Tevinter likely has a lyrium trade with them, but I wonder if some unfortunate dwarves might have been kidnapped for magical experiments. Their inability to access the fade through normal means and their resistance to magic would certainly make for interesting research. I think an elf would likely have the most emotional impact on Dorian's romance. Think of the atrocities done against the elven race that he might have witnessed, he could have quite a bit of lingering trauma/guilt. It'd be interesting to watch him go through that while falling in love with a free elf like your Inquisitor.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Ooh! I only romanced Thane in ME games. Is Steve a cute one? I liked his character! So calm and kind

I agree, I don't do male playthroughs much at all but I will be adding to the beautiful elves of BioWare list with my PC ;-D 

Same here except for females

Steve was .. Interesting, but not nearly as well developed as Traynor in my opinion. She's the reason I made a female Then again that might be due to my orientation/taste even though I consider myself a good judge of storylines xD