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#5376
ElitePinecone

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I'm surprised that Tevinter's view on sexuality is that close to what was found in classical societies.  Having a nation based on Rome isn't anything new, but I don't remember seeing that influence extend to ideas about sex.  If Dorian is an LI it would be cool if the romance was used to flesh out the nature of sexuality in the Imperium

 

On the other hand, I suppose that doing so could be rather difficult considering how important an individual's relative social status and power are in determining acceptable sexual roles.  

 

... plus we have to assume that if he's a reformer, he might not be a big fan of "traditional" Tevinter culture. 

 

(And DA:I does take place to a large extent in Orlais, which seems to be by far the most accepting nation in Thedas of sexual diversity.)



#5377
Lukas Trevelyan

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i am drawing a thing that has dorian in it

SO PRETTY AS ALWAYS



#5378
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#5379
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Yaaaaasssss, Psdo, yaaaaaasssssss

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LOL



#5381
Lukas Trevelyan

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Said this on the scribbles thread, but again fanart of the year. You da best psdo!



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Just found my new PC cover art. 



#5383
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I'm curious to see how Dorian gets along with the other mages in the party. I have a feeling that he and Vivienne are going to be at odds.



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The horrified expressions are priceless.



#5385
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i'm LAUGHING at this pic.

I can totally see this.



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If Tevinter society echoes late-Roman Byzantine, someone's background (purity) is not as much of a big deal than it once was as long as they're considered a citizen (or magical family I guess?). Too many people assimilated from different cultures and with the loss of empire and wars and such. They've even likely had non Altus archons by now....

 

I looked it up, it's here in World of Thedas:

 

 

Personally I don't care if he is Altus or Laetan. All I really care about is that his story and motivations make sense, more than "I'M GOING TO REBEL cause we're so GRIM DARK AND STEREOTYPICALLY EVIL IN THIS SERIES!" You know, an actual story.

 

It says that Laetans are known to "vie viciously for power." So he can just as easily be disgusted with the system if he saw all of the backstabbing and such some Laetans do.

 

Here's the page on Tevinter mage social class. I got it from Googlebooks that has previews.

 

Spoiler

 

Also, I wondered why he was with Alexius and his son. Do Magisters train their children some? Do they have schools? Do they have a master/apprentice system? Is it possible Dorian was a Laetan or even Soporati-turned-Laetan and brought up by Alexius since a young age like 10...

 

Oooh, nice catch! Anyways, I thought mages in Tevinter go to the circle to train but they can see their families and stuff.

 

 

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:lol:  :wizard:



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Awesome fan art Psdo!



#5388
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Oh my lawd, that is too priceless, Psdo.  


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#5389
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Yeah, but the question was about "fellow companions". Unless they meant companion as something other than party member.
 
(Edit: And Morrigan also had a "name" at the time...)


 
We don't know anything about Solas (other than that he knows how to strike an awesome pose for the camera), so I wouldn't be quick to call him creepy. Also, there's more to Dorian Grey than just his sexuality, you know?


I call him creepy because all I see is Nosferatu and I'm brought back to my childhood of sneaking out and watching the movie while my mom was unaware.

Also, I know there's more to Dorian than sexuality. I don't know why you thought that was all I cared about. I was just noting the potential m/m LI since it was just being discussed.

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OT but Solas is really cute! Why do people keep saying he's creepy? D:

Back on topic; I'm off to Italy for 5 days, maybe they'll be a Dorian update when I'm back? *looks at BW* hint hint ;)
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Guess we'll find out next weekend.



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I call him creepy because all I see is Nosferatu and I'm brought back to my childhood of sneaking out and watching the movie while my mom was unaware.

Also, I know there's more to Dorian than sexuality. I don't know why you thought that was all I cared about. I was just noting the potential m/m LI since it was just being discussed.

 

(Well, I've never seen that movie, so I wouldn't know.)

 

I phrased it badly. What I meant is that they could be calling back to Dorian Gray for a number of different reasons than his sexuality, like that whole thing with naive young man being corrupted... I don't think his name being Dorian is necessarily the developers hinting at him being gay/bi.

 

Anyways, with this talk of Dorian Gray... what if our magister is using blood magic and/or necromancy to keep himself young, and he's really a three-hundred-something-old dude who should've been a corpse a long long time ago...? :unsure:



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I think that is more what Alexis is doing.   Not so much keeping his son young as keeping him alive long after he should have been dead.    I'm really hoping that is something that Dorian doesn't approve of.     The thought of finding some picture in his pack showing this hideous deformed person and then him saying "oh yes, there's something I forgot to mention", doesn't bear thinking about.    Mind you it's not beyond the possibility of magic - look at the Guardian of the Ashes and he looked pretty good for his age.


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#5395
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If I recall correctly, Dorian said "He died long ago", so it doesn't sound like he approved of what Alexius did.

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I phrased it badly. What I meant is that they could be calling back to Dorian Gray for a number of different reasons than his sexuality, like that whole thing with naive young man being corrupted... I don't think his name being Dorian is necessarily the developers hinting at him being gay/bi.

 

I had assumed (incorrectly) since we first saw the name Dorian in August 2012 that it was a reference to Dorian Gray. Turns out, it's not.

 

It's actually a reference to Dorian, the King of Greece in this rather old Hercules cartoon.

 

David Gaider pointed that out in this thread :)



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David Gaider's post worries me, because I really want Dorian to be available for m/m romance. I realize it doesn't mean he isn't, but just  :(



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David Gaider's post worries me, because I really want Dorian to be available for m/m romance. I realize it doesn't mean he isn't, but just  :(

He will be ours, don't worry.


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David Gaider's post worries me, because I really want Dorian to be available for m/m romance. I realize it doesn't mean he isn't, but just  :(

 

 

He tries to downplay stuff that's been revealed to be true before. I think he just doesn't like people making assumptions (even if they turn out to be true). 


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