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#5951
Gikia-Kimikia

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If their 'greyness' comes in the form of a man treated as an outcast because he hates how Tevinter is, then I still think they are pretty much still full-stop evil. 

 

It could be more like... there are  people who oppose what Tevinter has become. There are  good people in Tevinter, who don't follow what seems to be the modus operandi. But those people are not in a position powerful enough to change things. They are silenced by social mores, or oppression, or worse. Too afraid to speak, for fear of the cost of speaking.

And here comes Dorian, privileged, talented, and powerful, who by all accounts should be happily benefiting from the system, but against all odds is appalled by it.

And he uses all that privilege and power and talent to work towards reform and redemption. At great cost to his status and his future, probably.

He isn't the sole good person in Tevinter, he's our window into that forcibly silent side of things. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. Kind of like Maevaris was, but more on the outright "good" side of the moral spectrum.

... Or at least, that's what I was thinking. I could just be an idealistic dumb.

 

Edit: It probably also helps, when you're debating social issues in Tevinter, to be powerful enough that you're untouchable in the shadows. Where, you know, you're otherwise likely to turn up mysteriously and tragically deceased after very publicly shaming the magisters' behavior. Just saying.


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#5952
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Lordy me, I think I've got the vapours.

*passes out*


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#5953
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I'm swooning so hard right now I would have fallen over if I wasn't sitting down....and I'm not even attracted to men!  :blink:


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#5954
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For crying out loud!!! None of my companions are going to support my bid for complete mage freedom! I get that there was backlash from all the pro-mage stuff in DA2, but goodness going the opposite direction is no better!



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Is it just me or does he have a reblemblance in personality and looks to Oberyn from GoT?

Definitely. If he's anything like him in the game, I'll be delighted!

He looks more beautiful with every new image. And that quote... it makes me want to giggle like a idiot!



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For crying out loud!!! None of my companions are going to support my bid for complete mage freedom! I get that there was backlash from all the pro-mage stuff in DA2, but goodness going the opposite direction is no better!


Where was it Stated that Dorian is against mage freedom :huh:?

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It could be more like... there are  people who oppose what Tevinter has become. There are  good people in Tevinter, who don't follow what seems to be the modus operandi. But those people are not in a position powerful enough to change things. They are silenced by social mores, or oppression, or worse. Too afraid to speak, for fear of the cost of speaking.

And here comes Dorian, privileged, talented, and powerful, who by all accounts should be happily benefiting from the system, but against all odds is appalled by it.

And he uses all that privilege and power and talent to work towards reform and redemption. At great cost to his status and his future, probably.

He isn't the sole good person in Tevinter, he's our window into that forcibly silent side of things. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. Kind of like Maevaris was, but more on the outright "good" side of the moral spectrum.

... Or at least, that's what I was thinking. I could just be an idealistic dumb.

 

This is excellent. 

 

I think it's basically what happened, and it's such an interesting story.



#5958
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For crying out loud!!! None of my companions are going to support my bid for complete mage freedom! I get that there was backlash from all the pro-mage stuff in DA2, but goodness going the opposite direction is no better!

 

Keep the hope alive, my friend! It could just be the blood-magicky, slave-owning, people-sacrificing stuff about Tevinter that Dorian has a problem with, and not mages being free/in positions of power. I don't see him advocating the Circle system that the majority of Thedas has got going on, that's a little... much.


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#5959
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I will be surprised if Dorian doesn't support mage freedom. I think he'll probably be totally behind it. I imagine he just doesn't agree with how brutally mages rule over others in Tevinter. 


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It could be more like... there are people who oppose what Tevinter has become. There are good people in Tevinter, who don't follow what seems to be the modus operandi. But those people are not in a position powerful enough to change things. They are silenced by social mores, or oppression, or worse. Too afraid to speak, for fear of the cost of speaking.
And here comes Dorian, privileged, talented, and powerful, who by all accounts should be happily benefiting from the system, but against all odds is appalled by it.
And he uses all that privilege and power and talent to work towards reform and redemption. At great cost to his status and his future, probably.
He isn't the sole good person in Tevinter, he's our window into that forcibly silent side of things. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. Kind of like Maevaris was, but more on the outright "good" side of the moral spectrum.
... Or at least, that's what I was thinking. I could just be an idealistic dumb.


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#5961
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It could be more like... there are  people who oppose what Tevinter has become. There are  good people in Tevinter, who don't follow what seems to be the modus operandi. But those people are not in a position powerful enough to change things. They are silenced by social mores, or oppression, or worse. Too afraid to speak, for fear of the cost of speaking.

And here comes Dorian, privileged, talented, and powerful, who by all accounts should be happily benefiting from the system, but against all odds is appalled by it.

And he uses all that privilege and power and talent to work towards reform and redemption. At great cost to his status and his future, probably.

He isn't the sole good person in Tevinter, he's our window into that forcibly silent side of things. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. Kind of like Maevaris was, but more on the outright "good" side of the moral spectrum.

... Or at least, that's what I was thinking. I could just be an idealistic dumb.

 

I hope that's the case (not the "idalistic dumb" part, of course :P ). I also hope we get his character profile soon, to know more about his character and motivations. "Dashing" is good, but not enough. Also, since DA:O Tevinter has been the country I've been most interested about, so Dorian becoming our window to that society is a great opportunity.

 

Maybe Dorian wants to be Hessarian 2.0 and start a new Transfiguration. Or maybe he's more laid-back.



#5962
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I wonder if he can twitch that mustache on demand. 

 

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For crying out loud!!! None of my companions are going to support my bid for complete mage freedom! I get that there was backlash from all the pro-mage stuff in DA2, but goodness going the opposite direction is no better!

Um how do oyu know Solas will not be for it? Or even Dorian? We just know Vivs view on it.



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Once more, with feeling:

 

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Keep the hope alive, my friend! It could just be the blood-magicky, slave-owning, people-sacrificing stuff about Tevinter that Dorian has a problem with, and not mages being free/in positions of power. I don't see him advocating the Circle system that the majority of Thedas has got going on, that's a little... much.

Yeah, my first play through is definitely going to be an independent but also morally minded mage. So here's hoping that will play out decently. Might romance Cassandra if her views on mage freedom can be changed. I heard that Leliana is anti-mage now for some reason and Morrigan belongs to my Warden. Vivieenne gives me the creeps so I won't be going near her.

 

But I would like at least on one playthrough to be able to play the complete villain who has no morals and wants to rule. Yet if none of my companions support my bid it would be kinda hard.



#5966
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Lol I'm not only one who noticed guyliner I see!

 

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Pretty soon we'll be dissecting his pores, you know, normal fangirl stuff.  The quality of his facial hair is still up for debate, though.



#5967
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He's the hottest Dragon Age character thus far, hands down.


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#5968
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Um how do oyu know Solas will not be for it? Or even Dorian? We just know Vivs view on it.

Not sure how to edit so sorry for double post, but I get the vibe from the quotes in Dorians that he is against Mage leadership. As for solas, I've heard nothing. That said, I don't think any of the other companions revealed so far would support it. Morrigan technically isn't a companion. So....Idk



#5969
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He's the hottest Dragon Age character thus far, hands down.

He is perfection. I want Dorian so FREAKING HARD.
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#5970
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So far the male characters of DA:I seem to be leagues ahead in style, personality and likeability. I'm not going to be able to resist taking Dorian with me EVERYWHERE.


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#5971
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He is perfection. I want Dorian so FREAKING HARD.

 

This joke writes itself.  :D


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#5972
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I have a feeling though Dorian might be our middle mage, in the sense he supports mage freedom, but he also does not want everyone with magic running around, nor does he want what happen in Tevinter to happen where Viv and Solas will be our extremes(though Viv seems to have her own reasons for being pro circle so Solas might also since he is an apostate)

 

Just my hope anyways. I really don't want Dorian to be pro mage like Anders personally :crying:


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#5973
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I just had to stop in and not only say how happy I am that y'all got your official reveal, but... holy hotcakes! That boy's a looker!


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Not sure how to edit so sorry for double post, but I get the vibe from the quotes in Dorians that he is against Mage leadership. As for solas, I've heard nothing. That said, I don't think any of the other companions revealed so far would support it. Morrigan technically isn't a companion. So....Idk

Cole was a big mage supporter in Asunder. 



#5975
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Yeah, my first play through is definitely going to be an independent but also morally minded mage. So here's hoping that will play out decently. Might romance Cassandra if her views on mage freedom can be changed. I heard that Leliana is anti-mage now for some reason and Morrigan belongs to my Warden. Vivieenne gives me the creeps so I won't be going near her.

 

But I would like at least on one playthrough to be able to play the complete villain who has no morals and wants to rule. Yet if none of my companions support my bid it would be kinda hard.

 

Ah, feeling the void left where a "Token Evil Teammate" ought to be, are we? Morrigan's pretty good for that, actually. Supporting brutal practicality and pragmatism, I mean.