i have absolutely no idea who this guy is. none. not even a name. except that he has flair for drama and awesome moustache. where do you guys get your intel?
i get the rogue vibe when i look at the art (not the concept/survey one)
Um...rogue? He has a staff thing :3
I think they mean personality wise. I do get that dashing debonair feeling from him too. Someone like Errol Flynn or Wesley the Dread Pirate Roberts.
i have absolutely no idea who this guy is. none. not even a name. except that he has flair for drama and awesome moustache. where do you guys get your intel?
i get the rogue vibe when i look at the art (not the concept/survey one)
There was a magister companion mentioned in the leaked marketing survey from August 2012 called Dorian Pavus.
His picture and bio seemed to be:
"Dorian Pavus is a magister. The title conjures fear of arcane masters who once enslaved nations. Dorian may wield power of the magisters, but he delights in not being what you’d expect of them. Brazen and clever, this outcast is on a crusade to rid his homeland of its corruption."
Put two and two together and it looks like DHMG is Dorian.
I read on the wiki that Tevinter is the least accepting society in Thedas towards same sex relationships. If Dorian is bi/gay, I wonder if that will come up in a m/m relationship.
huh, seems plausible... in that case:
"hello there, new member of my 4 mage party!"
From World of Thedas - it basically sounds like the idea was copy-pasted from ancient Rome 
"[Same-sex relationships in Tevinter] are considered selfish and deviant among nobles, but actively encouraged with favourite slaves. Nowhere [in Thedas] is it forbidden, and sex of any kind is only considered worthy of judgement when taken to awful excess or performed in the public eye."
I read on the wiki that Tevinter is the least accepting society in Thedas towards same sex relationships. If Dorian is bi/gay, I wonder if that will come up in a m/m relationship.
That only concerns relations among nobles, for procreation purposes. Mages isn't common to risk the lineages by allowing s/s relations.
That only concerns relations among nobles, for procreation purposes. Mages isn't common to risk the lineages by allowing s/s relations.
But Dorian is specifically called a magister, which means he wasn't in the lower ranks.
But Dorian is specifically called a magister, which means he wasn't in the lower ranks.
Do you expect Romeo & Juliette type s/s romance in his past?
Yeah, WoT also has a point earlier on that nobles are expected to produce an heir and perhaps participate in political marriages - especially where matters of inheritance and lineages are concerned. When this duty was done, nobles "might be allowed to pursue their own sexual interests without
(Which was, interestingly, an issue that never came up in the Human Noble Origin if you slept with the same-gendered servant - the other family members were all fine with their younger son/daughter having their own life.)
Do you expect Romeo & Juliette type s/s romance in his past?
I don't know about that, necessarily. I just wondered if he'd bring up that part of their culture as part of everything else he apparently hates about them. I wasn't necessarily looking for a big arc concerning it.
Is anyone else excited by the fact that 3 mages means DHMG's chances of being in has shot through the roof?
I did a prayer dance and everything
^ Then again, Dorian the character is an outcast. By definition, we won't be finding him in a position of power in Tevinter.
What's to say he'd ever participate in Tevinter society, especially political alliances sealed by marriage or the production of heirs? His bio reads more like he wants to tear the entire system apart.
I don't know about that, necessarily. I just wondered if he'd bring up that part of their culture as part of everything else he apparently hates about them. I wasn't necessarily looking for a big arc concerning it.
He'd better not or we are in danger of Carth's syndrome.
He'd better not or we are in danger of Carth's syndrome.
Well, I just meant maybe he would bring up their hypocrisy in situations like Danarius/Fenris, since I get the impression that kind of thing isn't overly rare. I meant something more subtle than a past romance.
If I want to hear about a Bioware m/m LIs poor romance history, I can always hit up Cortez. Lord knows, he'll give me an earful.
Yeah, WoT also has a point earlier on that nobles are expected to produce an heir and perhaps participate in political marriages - especially where matters of inheritance and lineages are concerned. When this duty was done, nobles "might be allowed to pursue their own sexual interests without
raising eyebrows."
(Which was, interestingly, an issue that never came up in the Human Noble Origin if you slept with the same-gendered servant - the other family members were all fine with their younger son/daughter having their own life.)
Makes sense though. Fergus already had an heir and was married quite happily. No reason to rock the boat.
Well, in Origins you were already a Grey Warden, so it was basically too late to settle down and have a family, right?
I interpret that more as like, before you commit all your time to 'side projects' you should be actively trying to get some heirs a-brewing, and your noble peers should know it. I dont think you're gonna get a slap on the wrist for one-off casual sex with a servant? It's just an issue of fulfilling your responsibility to your lineage.
Well, I just meant maybe he would bring up their hypocrisy in situations like Danarius/Fenris,
I really don't think that would constitute hypocrisy to them. As far as big bad tevinters are concerned, it's probably about the same to them as playing with a favorite toy. ..but yeah maybe an outcast would find it hypocritical, idk.
From World of Thedas - it basically sounds like the idea was copy-pasted from ancient Rome
"[Same-sex relationships in Tevinter] are considered selfish and deviant among nobles, but actively encouraged with favourite slaves. Nowhere [in Thedas] is it forbidden, and sex of any kind is only considered worthy of judgement when taken to awful excess or performed in the public eye."
And in any case, it seems like he's an unconventional type for a Tevinter, so I doubt he'd stick by their society's rules.
I wonder what his views would be on slavery. Obviously he's not going to support it, but would he be vehemently anti-slavery or just 'I don't like this' or only strongly against it when it concerns blood sacrifice...?
And in any case, it seems like he's an unconventional type for a Tevinter, so I doubt he'd stick by their society's rules.
I wonder what his views would be on slavery. Obviously he's not going to support it, but would he be vehemently anti-slavery or just 'I don't like this' or only strongly against it when it concerns blood sacrifice...?
It is interesting how he got his magister status, surely he'd have had to have slaves. Unless he was wealthy enough to have servants?
And in any case, it seems like he's an unconventional type for a Tevinter, so I doubt he'd stick by their society's rules.
I wonder what his views would be on slavery. Obviously he's not going to support it, but would he be vehemently anti-slavery or just 'I don't like this' or only strongly against it when it concerns blood sacrifice...?
If DHMG is Dorian, this is the side of the character I'm most interested in exploring. How does someone with power and privilege, not to mention legitimacy for using magic wildly, end up fighting to overturn it? And does he still support parts of Tevinter society that other nations in Thedas find abhorrent?
Indeed. I find it interesting. In the case of good characters, like Mae, they still practice things like slavery and blood magic. I wonder if Dorian would still practice slavery.
It is interesting how he got his magister status, surely he'd have had to have slaves. Unless he was wealthy enough to have servants?
That's a good point. Can magisters inherit their status from mage parents, or is it case of working your way to the top for each one?
If it's the latter, I wonder if he was once more of a standard magister with slaves and all, but has had a change of heart and wants to change the system.
Makes sense though. Fergus already had an heir and was married quite happily. No reason to rock the boat.
Ideally, I'd like for Dorian to be opposed to slavery, but for mage freedom.
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